Would you like to try NEW Hybrid gasoline&solar generator 2 in 1 with 1500Wh battery

[doing it different]

One question. What do you do with the exhaust for the engine?

So basically we need Wills power cart and mount an inverter generator on it that has electric start....

Basically anyone that's off grid has a solar generator with a gas generator...

What's the novelty? Small in one package? Personally I would like it separate so if generator quits the, you find another one to replace it...

 

[BarracudaBob]

Harbor Freight inverter generator, 3K AIO, one or more rack batteries would BLOW that thing out of the sky.

 

[doing it different]

So one of my many projects, is converting a really old golfcart to 48v lithium. Plan is to mount a decent sized inverter on it, so it can be used around the farm for welding and stuff like that... plus be a backup for house if needed. I also plan to make a spot for an inverter generator, that will only be installed if needed for bigger projects or range.


This guy does some interesting things and has quite a few videos about this project... a bit of tweaking and some batteries, you will have a very capable machine.

 

[Rita Nie]

One question. What do you do with the exhaust for the engine?

So basically we need Wills power cart and mount an inverter generator on it that has electric start....

Basically anyone that's off grid has a solar generator with a gas generator...

What's the novelty? Small in one package? Personally I would like it separate so if generator quits the, you find another one to replace it...

It as many cooling fans design for the exhaust and temperature. This one is 2 in 1, no need take both of solar generator and gasoline generator for outdoor using. One smaller design including two functions, keep continue power all the time.

 

[50ShadesOfDirt]

We can put many things next to each other and get the job done ... it isn't an integrated all-in-one package, but it is a solution. We can't compare such a solution to an AIO (with embedded gen), other than they both achieve the same result. I already have this "pile" of individual components ...

Current manufacturers of solar gen's have really proprietary features ... no surprise there. But, it's something I'd never buy, for obvious reasons of small capacity, high cost, etc. Works for many others to make that trade-off, but I can't make that choice. I've already built my own versions of a solar gen ... I keep the parts on hand as fallbacks to other solutions, and for small projects around the property. All off-the-shelf components, somewhat integrated.

If someone offers a Ryobi- or DeWalt-like solution (open framework, plug-in components that each provide one answer to the whole solution), but with none of the "lock-in" factor of these, I'd be more interested in that. This would fit my "small projects" category, such as tiny homes, camping solutions (truck/truck-bed shell), and possibly more. All less than 24v (could even be 12v), and a few common/standardized (off-the-shelf) 12v100ah batteries fits my needs. A common/standardized fuel (propane) gen with low-THD (somewhat off-the-shelf), but that plugs into the framework, would fit my needs as well. I don't want to maintain gasoline & fuel additives, and slop that all over the top of this thing ... propane is plug-and-play.

Your company (Rita) might be the first to offer it, and I might be the first to buy it.

 

[42OhmsPA]

Harbor Freight inverter generator, 3K AIO, one or more rack batteries would BLOW that thing out of the sky.

Agreed. In this case DIY or die might really apply.

 

[Chicat]

Anyone can help me on this? share some feedback about this design, thanks.

Need more information, size and weight of unit for example also the retail price as it will not run many things without the engine kicking on all the time

 

[ScrodusGargleRotten]

It's too large for how little it does

 

[50ShadesOfDirt]

Here is possibly a comparison product from vatrer (visible on Amazon, can't yet find user/install guide). Not intending to offend by tossing a competitor into this discussion, rather, pointing out the stackable approach of their design, and the sizing of components.

amazon.com/dp/B0DFSTSXLC

Don't know if it is possible to produce a fuel gen that would fit in this stack (perhaps a double-height module?), but this starts to approach ideal for me.

If you didn't intend to produce such a massive unit, you could scale back the design to what I'd call the 12v class of components, for the same effect. The vatrer as shown would be the 48v class of components.

 

[Rita Nie]

Need more information, size and weight of unit for example also the retail price as it will not run many things without the engine kicking on all the time

Yes, for the 1500W ( AC output rated power 1500W), the battery capacity is 1500Wh (which is more than 12V 100A battery capacity), the size is as below, and weight is 28.5KGS.
For the device, which can support gasoline generator and solar generator, when the sunshine is good, MAX 400W solar panel PV input can charge the inside battery, when no sunshine, the engine can work to get the power and storage in the battery. Even you can charge it by home socket.

 

[Rednecktek]

That's a lot smaller than the original picture led me to believe. To translate that to 'Murican:

13.1in Length
10.4in Width
18.6in Height

62.8lb

What's the cost looking like? How hard is it to expand the battery? Is it plain LFP 100ah or does it use NMC cells? Can I just wire in a bog standard battery to increase runtime? What's the fuel capacity and consumption/runtime recharging with the generator?

 

[Rita Nie]

That's a lot smaller than the original picture led me to believe. To translate that to 'Murican:

13.1in Length
10.4in Width
18.6in Height

62.8lb

What's the cost looking like? How hard is it to expand the battery? Is it plain LFP 100ah or does it use NMC cells? Can I just wire in a bog standard battery to increase runtime? What's the fuel capacity and consumption/runtime recharging with the generator?

Yes, the size is small and weight is light, actually, the device is more useful for outdoor, if for home using, the battery capacity and power is a little small for house appliances. So far, for this model, which can't be used with extend battery, it is LFP battery, the fuel tank is 2.2L, 1L gasoline can have 1.2KWH power about 2.5 hours

 

[Rednecktek]

An Anderson50 connector to allow for expansion woukd be an easy feature and add a good value.

So basically 1 tank of gas to charge from empty to full? Not bad.

What are you expecting for a MSRP?

 

[Rita Nie]

An Anderson50 connector to allow for expansion woukd be an easy feature and add a good value.

So basically 1 tank of gas to charge from empty to full? Not bad.

What are you expecting for a MSRP?

Yes, this is good suggestion, but for outdoor using, portable and easy-taking will be important. We are planning it for higher capacity battery using at home.
Yes, 1 tank gas is about 2.2L gasoline, and can get more than 2.5KWH power.

MSRP is about 1799USD as reference

 

[Rita Nie]

anyone suggest on the MSRP?

 

[Rita Nie]

Good weekend, share more picture of the hybrid gasoline&solar generator

 

[wpns]

Is that a picture or a render? Can you put a person into the picture for scale?

 

[Jmhai3]

Harbor Freight inverter generator, 3K AIO, one or more rack batteries would BLOW that thing out of the sky.

Been there done that.
Works great.
Be even better price wise if you got the last Eco-Worthy AIO-5k and single battery deal they had not long ago (I think it was $1,100 or $1,200).
2nd hand HF 3500 invertor generator $500 all day. Even though the smaller unit will work too my HF 2500 is older unit and still works great.

 

[Rednecktek]

Those wheels are worthless, you'll need something larger and softer if you want to be able to roll it across anything rougher than a garage floor...

Like outside for example... where it'll need to be to run the generator...

True, you could get a generator and strap it to a rackmouunt battery on a cart, but the measurements given earlier make it about the size of a 2kw inverter generator so as an all in one package is a viable idea. Also, a method for battery expansion.

 

[Rita Nie]

Is that a picture or a render? Can you put a person into the picture for scale?

Yes, it is a real picture, the below image is for check about the size.

Regarding the wheels, it is 360-degree cardan wheel, soft and silent. This size is enough for floor and lawn.

 

[fatjay]

$1800 usd is just to much for a play product.

The 550w gas gen is the biggest weak point. And it'll be loud. There's not a muffler in the world you could put on it to quiet it down, either. The noise isn't the exhaust noise, it's the actual engine.

This is the reason 550w isn't enough. You don't want to run it for very long. You want it to zip up the battery and shut off again, because it will be disturbing the peace.

It's not for camping, you couldn't take that thing camping and run the engine.

The wheels need to be removable, because people are going to put it on a cart with real wheels.

I think you need to research what camping in america is, if you want to sell a product aimed at campers in america.

 

[Rita Nie]

Yes, the wheels are removable, which is fixed by screw.

 

[42OhmsPA]

Yes, it is a real picture, the below image is for check about the size.

Regarding the wheels, it is 360-degree cardan wheel, soft and silent. This size is enough for floor and lawn.


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I'd get a kick out of a video of those wheels rolling through grass and trails.

 

[Rednecktek]

This size is enough for floor and lawn.

If you're running it anywhere with a floor, the fumes are trying to kill you. Take that out somewhere that has hiking trails and gravel parking lots and see how well it rolls. You'll rethink your wheels right quick.

It's nice that it's about the same size as a 2kw portable generator, but those wheels are going to mean you have to carry it instead of rolling it.

I think you need to research what camping in america is, if you want to sell a product aimed at campers in america.

Exactly! Pictures of it rolling across a concrete parking lot or a freshly mowed golf grass yard mean nothing. Imagine trying to roll that around in places where people actually camp.

 

[ScrodusGargleRotten]

peace.

It's not for camping, you couldn't take that thing camping and run the engine.

I have had horrible thoughts about people that bring gas generators camping.

Horrible, horrible thoughts. I won't even say. 1 hour is too much


This thing will run the entire time.

Those thoughts might not stay thoughts.