EG6000EX vs 6000XP

edfowler · Nov 6, 2023

wildbillpdx said:
Okay...here are the settings I'm using for my inverter:

Option 14 Battery Type EG4
Option 19 Low DC Cut off battery voltage setting (EG4) 20%
Option 20 Bypass loads to grid when grid is present (EG4) 30%
Option 21 Set point for transfer back to off-grid operation is bypassed based on option 20 (EG4) 95%
Option 30 Scheduled Start Charging time for AC charger Default is 00 (midnight)
Option 31 Scheduled Stop charging time for AC charger Default is 00 (midnight)

thank you so much. going to give it a try and let you know. Appreciate it!

brolston · Nov 6, 2023

Mlhagema, it looks like you are isolating the efficiency of the charge controller and missing the mppt efficiency issue I have highlighted. If your pv input measurement was before the 6000ex unit and the second reading is at the battery it would also show the pwr consumption of the 6000ex unit of around 115w.

If you have a clamp meter just take a voltage and amp measurement on the pv line before it connects to the 6000ex unit and compare that to pv input pwr of the watchpower readout. Or just compare it to the 6000ex readout. I think you will see around a 250w loss there and another 115w loss by the time it gets to the battery.

edfowler · Nov 6, 2023

wildbillpdx said:
Okay...here are the settings I'm using for my inverter:

Option 14 Battery Type EG4
Option 19 Low DC Cut off battery voltage setting (EG4) 20%
Option 20 Bypass loads to grid when grid is present (EG4) 30%
Option 21 Set point for transfer back to off-grid operation is bypassed based on option 20 (EG4) 95%
Option 30 Scheduled Start Charging time for AC charger Default is 00 (midnight)
Option 31 Scheduled Stop charging time for AC charger Default is 00 (midnight)

I tried inputing your settings but options 19,20,21,30 and 31 would not allow a % setting. They showed voltage settings instead. I suppose I may need to update the firmware to use your settings...

edfowler · Nov 6, 2023

42OhmsPA said:
I was running a TP6048 (6000ex close relative) for about a year.
I'd suggest you ditch communications with the inverter, set your battery to user and run everything off voltage.
14 - USE
17 - 55.2V or close to it.
18 - 54V or close to it. (54.8V should balance the cells if you don't get a full charge daily and they start to drift).
19 - 44V or higher
20 - 51V (this is the highest you can go and should keep you around 25% soc)
21 - 53V (this will keep your grid use to a minimum, you can bump it up if you have bad weather coming or want to charge fuller from the grid)

There is a thread on here somehow that has lots of different users settings, search for LVX6048 settings or something along those lines.

Note that I never updated the firmware on my TP6048, everything worked well enough out of the box.

I will give this a try

wildbillpdx · Nov 6, 2023

edfowler said:
I tried inputing your settings but options 19,20,21,30 and 31 would not allow a % setting. They showed voltage settings instead. I suppose I may need to update the firmware to use your settings...

Is option 14 set to EG4? That switches the others to percentages.

edfowler · Nov 7, 2023

wildbillpdx said:
Is option 14 set to EG4? That switches the others to percentages.

yup

wildbillpdx · Nov 7, 2023

I’m running this firmware on the inverter:

NVCYberPro · Nov 7, 2023

42OhmsPA said:
I was running a TP6048 (6000ex close relative) for about a year.
I'd suggest you ditch communications with the inverter, set your battery to user and run everything off voltage.
14 - USE
17 - 55.2V or close to it.
18 - 54V or close to it. (54.8V should balance the cells if you don't get a full charge daily and they start to drift).
19 - 44V or higher
20 - 51V (this is the highest you can go and should keep you around 25% soc)
21 - 53V (this will keep your grid use to a minimum, you can bump it up if you have bad weather coming or want to charge fuller from the grid)

There is a thread on here somehow that has lots of different users settings, search for LVX6048 settings or something along those lines.

Note that I never updated the firmware on my TP6048, everything worked well enough out of the box.

I would be curious to know if someone could help me with similar settings on a 6500ex. I have it now using battery communication and it will charge from the grid at 20% and stop at 25%. I would switch over to user settings but not sure how to get the same results with those settings.
Thanks

Zapper77 · Nov 7, 2023

NVCYberPro said:
I would be curious to know if someone could help me with similar settings on a 6500ex. I have it now using battery communication and it will charge from the grid at 20% and stop at 25%. I would switch over to user settings but not sure how to get the same results with those settings.
Thanks

Can you post what settings your 6500ex has?

edfowler · Nov 7, 2023

wildbillpdx said:
I’m running this firmware on the inverter:

unfortunately I don't even have a computer hooked up to it. It looks like I need to dig in and tackle that side of it

wildbillpdx · Nov 7, 2023

edfowler said:
unfortunately I don't even have a computer hooked up to it. It looks like I need to dig in and tackle that side of it

Just looking at the manual. Seems like there’s something wrong.

NVCYberPro · Nov 8, 2023

Zapper77 said:
Can you post what settings your 6500ex has?

I will try to get those tomorrow. Thanks

Long delay - sorry been away

#	Value	Description
01	Sbu	Output Source Priority
02	120	Max charging current
03	APL	AC input voltage range 80-140
05	EG4	Battery Type
06	Lhd	Overload Auto Restart
07	Ehd	Temp Auto Restart
09	60	Output Frequency
10	120	Output Voltage
11	10	Max Utility Charging
12	20	SOC > Utility SBU
13	25	SOC > Battery SBU
16	SNU	Charger Source Priority
18	bOF	Alarm Control (off)
19	HEP	Display Auto Return (off)
20	LON	Backlight Control (off)
22	AON	Beep Alarm (off)
23	Byd	Overload bypass (enable)
25	Fs5	Record Fault Code (disable)
26	56	Bulk Charge
27	56	Float Charge
28	SIG	AC output mode
29	10	Low DC Cutoff
30	Ed5	Battery Eq
31	58.4	Battery Eq Volt
33	60	Battery Eq Time
34	120	Battery Eq Timeout
35	30d	Eq Interval
36	Ad5	Eq activated Immed
37	NHE	Reset Stored Data
41	dd5	Max discharge current
51	LEN	On/Off RGB LED
52	NOH	LED Brightness
53	LON	LED Speed
54	Bfe	LED Effects
55	C02	LED Color

edfowler · Nov 10, 2023

the settings Sig Solar tech had me input:

14 use
17 56.0v
18 56.0v
19 45.0v
20 46v
21 54v
22 I-EP
23 LON

I tried setting 14 to EG4 and then letting the menu return to see if the following inputs would turn to percentages but they did not

wildbillpdx · Nov 10, 2023

edfowler said:
the settings Sig Solar tech had me input:

14 use
17 56.0v
18 56.0v
19 45.0v
20 46v
21 54v
22 I-EP
23 LON

I tried setting 14 to EG4 and then letting the menu return to see if the following inputs would turn to percentages but they did not

You need to apply the change for it to work. You can't just let it return to the menu following a timeout.

edfowler · Nov 11, 2023

wildbillpdx said:
You need to apply the change for it to work. You can't just let it return to the menu following a timeout.

I understand. I did that and the other values did not turn to percentages, they remained voltage values. Probably a glitch in the original firmware.

That is, unless I misunderstood how to apply the change. I pressed the menu button for 3 seconds to enter the setting menu, selected 14 and changed to EG4, then I pressed the menu button again to apply the change.

AZ Solar Junkie · Nov 13, 2023

edfowler said:
I understand. I did that and the other values did not turn to percentages, they remained voltage values. Probably a glitch in the original firmware.

That is, unless I misunderstood how to apply the change. I pressed the menu button for 3 seconds to enter the setting menu, selected 14 and changed to EG4, then I pressed the menu button again to apply the change.

If you didn't press Enter one last time after changing the setting, then it's not applied...

smr.ruby · Jan 5, 2024

edfowler said:
I will probably sell my 6000EX once I receive the 6000XP

@edfowler you still want to sell your 6000EX. @wildbillpdx may be looking.

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