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[TommySr]

I venture to say that anyone who has not had the experience can have no idea how they themselves would handle it, or what they would do to survive.

I would add- what would they do to help others to survive.

spelled with a Q? to me means pulling shit out your ass to support your arguments(no facts)
it can be easy to spot at times because it's starts off with "I heard it said someplace"

 

[TommySr]

What are you even trying to say?

Ryujin, change is coming , change is slow, change is messy.
because there are people that would risk jail to keep change from happening.

 

[TommySr]

Black people only got the full count of thier vote in '65, long after women got the vote.

I've been out of school a long time, but I think black started voting before female

 

[aenyc]

Assange Judge Worked for MI6 & Defence Ministry

As with previous judges who have ruled on the WikiLeaks publisher's case, Justice Jeremy Johnson raises concerns about institutional conflicts of interest, write Mark Curtis and John McEvoy. By Mark Curtis and John McEvoy Declassified UK One of the two High Court judges who will rule on

consortiumnews.com

Very interesting piece on Assange.
Proof what the machine does to people who they find truly dangerous to it.

On a separate note when Trump chose not to pardon Assange, it cemented my view that he was part of the same club.

 

[D71]

I could never sit in judgement on what John McCain may or may not have done to survive in that hell hole unless I had been there too or had a similar experience. I venture to say that anyone who has not had the experience can have no idea how they themselves would handle it, or what they would do to survive.

While those who were there with him may have been critical of how he handled himself, that doesn't give you [or anyone else] license to do the same unless you spent some time in his shoes, but that's just my opinion.

It is your opinion . Everyone is judgmental and you just made and rendered a judgement about me concerning McCain which made himself a public figure. The ppl that were with McCain as POW passed judgement in peer review.. Judged by peers.
In the scope of things everything can be as you suggest with no one able to look at others at all. John McCain was discussed by Trump in an accurate way for my opinion I don’t believe in RACE CARDS…. Or anything of that exclusive nature. That is my opinion.

 

[TommySr]

The ppl that were with McCain as POW passed judgement in peer review.. Judged by peers.

D71, can you supply a link?

is this where your information is coming from?


something seems wrong with that...IN STOCK...30days to ship?

 

[aenyc]

There is plenty of information out there that McCain was always a pro-war, pro MIC, globalist stooge

John McCain Photographed 'Palling Around' With Terrorists In Syria (VIDEO)

Video At My Site (Could Not Embed) Senator John McCain has been criticizing the President for months on his Syria foreign policy. Mr. ‘Take Charge’ McCain decided to go to Syria and have a ...

www.dailykos.com

Congress Members Visit Al-Qaeda Held Northwest Syria In 1st Since Infamous McCain Photo | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

John McCain Combined Bombing with Wishful Thinking | James Bovard

The late Sen. John McCain is being lauded far and wide for his long career of public service. Rep. John Lewis, the famous civil rights activist, hailed McCain as a “warrior for peace.” In reality, McCain embodied a mix of moralism and militarism that worked out badly for America and the world...

mises.org

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2023/03/investigative-series/the-rise-of-jamie-dimon/ (interesting information here about McCain shenanigans)

Ashton Kutcher's NGO Supplies Police with 'Free' CIA-linked Surveillance Tool to 'Protect Kids'

A suspect NGO claiming to combat child trafficking by providing surveillance tech to US police has allowed Amazon to continue supplying U.S. law enforcement with facial recognition software despite the tech giant’s moratorium on its sale to police.

unlimitedhangout.com

Meet the “Violet” Successors to the White Helmets’ Syria Propaganda Throne

Meet the Violet organization, a new “Syrian” NGO pushed into the limelight by neocolonialist media outlets, which works alongside the terrorist-linked White Helmets and in areas occupied by Al Qaeda affiliates and rebrands.

unlimitedhangout.com

 

[TommySr]

There is plenty of information out there that McCain was always a pro-war, pro MIC, globalist stooge

aenyc, I did go through each link you supplied, but could find nothing about his POW experience.

while I played a very small part in the cold war, john was in the trenches, and in the camps..
we walked away form Korea, and then Nam, and Afghanistan. but it could be said with John's help we won
the cold war. berlin wall came down, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) came down.

It's possible we forgot all that, and that's why Russia feels they can reclaim lost land now.
not a lot of people left that remember the missile launch facilities around each US mayor city
because of the USSR. not a lot of people left that remember getting under their desks because
of the USSR

I remember john in the cold war, I don't remember trump.(to keep it on topic)

 

[D71]

D71, can you supply a link?

is this where your information is coming from?
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something seems wrong with that...IN STOCK...30days to ship?

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You will only find what you want to see. There are numerous claims McCain received special treatment due to his father was Navy Admiral.
There are also reports of McCain being tortured. SERE training teaches everyone gets tortured as a POW and eventually broken or killed.

Supposedly McCain declined early release as POW until everyone got released. Military Code of Conduct does not allow prisoners(pow) to accept special favors and treatment. You were in the Military did they not teach you about Military Codes of Conduct? That refusal to take early release is a claim for McCain as hero whether true or not. Did McCain recount what happened to him or did someone else? Some prisoners stated McCain melted and broke right away. SERE training use to teach everyone would be broken. The human being can only take so much. The base we have in Cuba proves torture of POW works or it would not exist. Torture of prisoners aka POW is suppose to be illegal.

If you really look then you will find there were ppl reported as getting medals while they were a POW.
Example Medal of Honor POW and one story he tried kill himself before they could break him.

James Stockdale - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

if you go look for John Kerry will find he was judged and disputed by ppl there with him too. He was to my knowledge never a pow nor was that the point. Just his recollection differs from peers.
Maybe only Hollywood actors should judge Jane Fonda . That would be her peers.

Specialist/PFC Lynch showed how the military lies and covers up. She was the one that blew the whistle on tv and said the story was lies and fabricated. This talks about govt plays. There is a video of Lynch but you can look for it. Give you something to do.

The truth about Jessica

Her Iraqi guards had long fled, she was being well cared for - and doctors had already tried to free her. John Kampfner discovers the real story behind a modern American war myth.

www.theguardian.com

Then there was Army Ranger Pat Tillman … with Govt Official Story - exposed lies:
“‘’’ Soldier: Army ordered me not to tell truth about Tillman”’’’’

Soldier: Army ordered me not to tell truth about Tillman - CNN.com

The last soldier to see Army Ranger Pat Tillman alive, Spc. Bryan O'Neal, told lawmakers that he was warned by superiors not to divulge -- especially to the Tillman family -- that a fellow soldier killed Tillman.

www.cnn.com

With the internet it often difficult to do old propaganda and lies from the govt. and that explains why they Censor online media they do not like or approve. Covid was an example.

In old days we had to look through old library news paper clippings and information contained on micro film - viewed on projectors at the library . There were also books. Old style research before the internet. The problem with Internet is information over load.

Now you and others have more than enough to play with for a while. Hahaha sort through it. Look for yourself. Or don’t. You had made up your mind before I ever took the time to post a reply. What is the Q stuff you babble on about? Operation “TRUST”

McCain was a “never Trumper” because McCain was denied President at least 2 times. Trump stated in previos linked video he raised $1 million dollars for McCain’s presidential run. McCain stabbed Trump in the back …. That is also recorded. So…..

 

[aenyc]

aenyc, I did go through each link you supplied, but could find nothing about his POW experience.

while I played a very small part in the cold war, john was in the trenches, and in the camps..
we walked away form Korea, and then Nam, and Afghanistan. but it could be said with John's help we won
the cold war. berlin wall came down, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) came down.

It's possible we forgot all that, and that's why Russia feels they can reclaim lost land now.
not a lot of people left that remember the missile launch facilities around each US mayor city
because of the USSR. not a lot of people left that remember getting under their desks because
of the USSR

I remember john in the cold war, I don't remember trump.(to keep it on topic)

The cold war was never won by anyone. I would not even know where to begin, but you must review most of the conventional history that you know on this subject.
The short version is that "Project USSR" was dissembled when it served its useful purpose for the global oligarchy.
We are now in the phase of "Project USA" (And Western Europe) being disassembled.

The end goals will be something like this (And McCain has worked overtime to ensure that its on its path to success)

Technocracy: The Operating System For The New International Rules-Based Order

The International Rules-Based Order is under threat and the balance of power is in flux. This geopolitical shift is not being led by nation states but rather by a global network of stakeholders seeking to create global technocracy.

unlimitedhangout.com

 

[TommySr]

You will only find what you want to see. There are numerous claims McCain received special treatment due to his father was Navy Admiral.
There are also reports of McCain being tortured. SERE training teaches everyone gets tortured as a POW and eventually broken or killed.

D71, very nicely written, and some very interesting arguments.

McCain was a “never Trumper” because McCain was denied President at least 2 times.

but your bottom line, leaves me scratching my head. why couldn't john be a never trumper because of
policy issues? is john the only never trumper?

Trump stated in previos linked video he raised $1 million dollars for McCain’s presidential run. McCain stabbed Trump in the back …. That is also recorded. So…..

can you buy someone's acceptance of your policies? some I'm sure, maybe not john's.

 

[TommySr]

The end goals will be something like this (And McCain has worked overtime to ensure that its on its path to success)

aenyc, very interesting reading. Thanks!



We do live in a very sweet time. we can crimp anderson connecters and search the net at the same time. and without leaving the house.

 

[Ryujin]

I've been out of school a long time, but I think black started voting before female

for 3/5's of a vote

 

[D71]

D71, very nicely written, and some very interesting arguments.

but your bottom line, leaves me scratching my head. why couldn't john be a never trumper because of
policy issues?

can you buy someone's acceptance of your policies? some I'm sure, maybe not john's.

When McCain tried to be President and get shot down 2 times for that job it means he was not selected.
If someone promoted McCain then there should by allegiance be a returned endorsement. If you value allegiance's. Pledge Allegiance to the flag. McCain was a “never Trump in 2016 before the election was voted on.” Trumps run was major” Lock Her Up.” Never happened. That is a given and it happens all the time some things don't get fulfilled for campaign promises. But Ppl owe loyalties … sadly …. that is seen with Congress and Lobbying. We never made laws to criminalize lobbying. The criminal will not make laws to govern themselves. They make laws to exclude themselves while criminalizing others who question them.

McCain had declined to run in 2016…. But he took reported $1 million from Trump.. in earlier election runs which was odd because McCain was a known CELEBRATED RINO. Trump has a habit of picking back stabbers. The Left loved Trump until 2016. Trump tried to love them too. He had dinner with Clintons and toasted them - seemed very sincere
McCain declined 2016 link

2016 Republican Party presidential candidates - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The way we treated POW in Iraq


Typical the brass avoid any real charges. The general will retire at highest rank held.

Go look at the pictures

Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The whistle blower supposedly got longest time in prison. I did not confirm that though. It would not surprise me if true.

Realize we hanged Sadaam Hussein as a POW in a mock trial. His last words were translated ‘’Praise God” He was not afraid…if our politicians and leaders were treated to his final days and sentence what would their last words be? We may find out real soon.

 

[TommySr]

If someone promoted McCain then there should by allegiance be a returned endorsement. If you value allegiance's.

D71, this line seems to work in "The God Father" but in politics?, when I said the Pledge Allegiance it wasn't
to kennedy, it wasn't to johnson or even nixon. none of their names got mentioned. I wonder how Sarah would reply to that line.

The whistle blower supposedly got longest time in prison. I did not confirm that though. It would not surprise me if true.

D71, I get that.

 

[D71]

D71, this line seems to work in "The God Father" but in politics?, when I said the Pledge Allegiance it wasn't
to kennedy, it wasn't to johnson or even nixon. none of their names got mentioned. I wonder how Sarah would reply to that line.

D71, I get that.

When you were in the military were you not trained with a fox hole fighting buddy. Everyone was trained as Infantry in Basics.
You know someone to watch your back when your trousers are dropped to take a dump. The enemy will shoot you even while you are leaving a dump. You develop allegiances in the Military. Comrades in arms is the communist aspect wording. Or you get ppl that write books about you later if in you are in the public eye. There were a lot of PX hero too. Which means stolen valor.

I noticed… Sometimes the Govt just needed a few hero to sell US BONDS. Awards were given out like candy at halloween which cheapened the awards intent. Anyway …. Could buy the Bonds and double in value payback price. War is profitable. The Govt here are having trouble getting volunteers to be cannon fodder. Allegiance of mis-trust formed. I was in the service and tell ppl do not join - do not support biden as commander in Chief. Leftist can step up. Let them go fight. The lesbian butches that want to be men can be first on the battle fields. The Nashville tranny mass murderer could have went to ukraine or israel. They chose an easy soft unprotected target. They always do.

Allegiance is important like the bond of a hand shake to seal a deal. . McCain did not have any respect or alligiance to the Republican Party He was a Celebrated RINO. Trump encountered the RINO right away. McCain took the reported ~$1million donation instead of returning it.

 

[TommySr]

I was in the service and tell ppl do not join

D71, my first son asked me that very question, like I told him, read it before you sign it, and believe
nothing the recruiter says. he ended up in Korea fixing blackhawks. he had 2 girls they both went to collage.
kind of strange, he also found himself a signal parent of young kids.

 

[TommySr]

McCain did not have any respect or alligiance to the Republican Party

D71, are you saying you think trump is a republican and not MAGA?
are you thinking republican and MAGA are the same thing?
you think Nikki and trump are in the same party?

IMO me, nikki and john have been turned into RINOs to make room for MAGA

 

[D71]

D71, my first son asked me that very question, like I told him, read it before you sign it, and believe
nothing the recruiter says. he ended up in Korea fixing blackhawks. he had 2 girls they both went to collage.

You sign away rights and replace with ucmj - double jeopardy. Indentured servant status with 2 sided agreements. The military doesn’t like to honor their agreement.. on behalf of veterans. Now some groups get everything easy while others have to fight. The suicide rate for displaced vets is real high.

During Obuma the VA vet performance was lowest ever seen. Sad sorry services offered The ppl were entitled that had served. But a small bit of lost wages while in service. Whereas ppl - soldiers were expected offer everything in service …to include their life.

When VA Service make mistake they say oops. I was not afforded that luxury while in service were you? Opps meant demotion or worse death.. Why does the VA Admin Services get away with simple ooops. Standards

Biden is not capable of being Commander in Chief by his actions of not being held accountable for stolen Classified Top Secret records. A VP or Senator era politician are not allowed to have stolen Top Secret Classified Records stored in their home. Past Presidents were allowed until Trump.

D71, are you saying you think trump is a republican and not MAGA?
are you thinking republican and MAGA are the same thing?
you think Nikki and trump are in the same party?

Are they under the RNC and does “Make America Great Again” offend you? It offends ppl on the left. They don’t want to “Make America Great Again.” They want America to be a 3rd World shithole. Like their preferred sex partners. Again are they both under the RNC?

 

[TommySr]

Are they under the RNC and does “Make America Great Again” offend you?

D71, depends on how you plan to achieve it.
MAGA wants a trump/ Kushner circus so government can't function and gets out of our way.
if that is your big plan, kind of reminds me of trump's best ever heath care plan.
if you only watch the lips move, you could miss some things.