I hadn't planned for propane for anything except backup since solar power is renewable
Gut check - am I crazy?
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I was thinking/planning for 3x EG4 6.5kw inverters (24kw total mppt input). Is that not a viable plan for some reason?
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When I say should I mean it might be less time as power has gone up by 20% this year.
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Sounds good to me. But some people only believe in the tier one expensive stuff.
I'd rather have cheaper replaceable pieces and plan to replace them more often.
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Utility costs going up, is the only for sure thing.
Solar is continually getting cheaper.
The value pendulum is constantly swinging heavier in our direction.
Solar is continually getting cheaper.
The value pendulum is constantly swinging heavier in our direction.
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Absolutely not, they are rebranded china stuff, new to the market and will not be around if you have issues. Its low cost, thats it.
You need to be looking at Schneider XW, Outback Radian or possibly Sol-Ark
You need a solution that is proven, has all the accessories like wiring boxes, ATS for generators, paralleling and listed.
This is where one needs someone whom is experienced with whole home power systems, this isn't a youtube video, anyone can do it BS.
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My thought is that I don't have to wait as long for my system to pay for itself. Before the next best thing arrives on the market.
Isn't the 6.5k eg4 120v? If you're not going three phase, and I assume you will have some 240v needs, how do three play together?
Unless costs can be justified through a major grid failure or utility costs increase substantially, my system will pay for itself after I'm deep in the ground.
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If you have Grid Power as a backup sure. If you plan on being self suffiecent then don't cheap out on the Equipment as it will not be fun when something dies and you have to go for days without power.
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2 on one leg and 1 on the other, just for 240v loads.
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Yes costs are going up, and laws are changing so no more free ride for GT homeowners. The payback we have had the last 20 years will never be seen again, it is not possible as the grid infrastructure is very high cost, needs massive investments and EVERYONE will pay.
"Past performance is no guarantee of future results"
With Duke in Florida, you now have a 30 dollar amount minimum connection charge and if you sell more energy than you use, you get wholesale, not retail credit rates, net metering is gone. Were not the only ones
I was thinking 2 in parallel for split phase 120/240, and one feeding a separate box for just 120 loads
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He has a generator and 1000 gallons of propane for backup.
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No interest in grid tied, whatsoever.
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Big no, your looking at a whole home, code compliant ( all listed components ), power plant. You want split phase and as many in parallel as running the home worst case ( like the grid ) is necessary.
It appears you may have fallen for the siren singing it's easy, anyone can do it. Your taking on a massive task ....
I would say your crazy.
Here is why. IMO Solar is approaching its peak usage. It provides ZERO power more than 1/2 the day. That requires you to invest in expensive energy storage solutions, like batteries.
Portable Hydrogen generators are beginning to come onto the market. They range in price from $2k-7k. In 5 to 10 years, they will be commonplace and your battery storage solution will be deemed "dirty", like coal was. That's before the warranty runs out on your batteries.
Here is why. IMO Solar is approaching its peak usage. It provides ZERO power more than 1/2 the day. That requires you to invest in expensive energy storage solutions, like batteries.
Portable Hydrogen generators are beginning to come onto the market. They range in price from $2k-7k. In 5 to 10 years, they will be commonplace and your battery storage solution will be deemed "dirty", like coal was. That's before the warranty runs out on your batteries.
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The only thing that I would suggest that you do differently. (Assuming you are here because you are a diy'er) is think about building your own batteries. You can save thousands of dollars for a system that size.
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Whatever you did, that's what you planned.
Power is KW. Your KW has gone up by over 20%? Please clarify. What are your KWH rate and base charges?
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Only if you have the time and it can't be used in another income paying fashion, I suspect the OP can earn more doing his job in the same hours than building unlisted, no warranty , no code compliant storage to be installed and a brand new home.
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