Australia - Group buy - DEYE 5kw hybrid (Aus approved)

[nate_syd]

I hope you are an electrician and/or had it inspected by an inspector.
You will also probably need approval from your distribution company before you can power it up.
And because this inverter is not on the CEC approved list (yet) your distribution company might need some additional information and might decline your request.

I'm currently waiting for these inverters to be approved so I can order and install them here in the Bay of Plenty.

FYI - Even though units are not on the CEC list, they can be installed successfully/legally if they can be proven to be compliant.
Speaking with Deye & they are certifying the existing units - meaning they have the capability to do everything thats in the new standard.

 

[cods4]

FYI - Even though units are not on the CEC list, they can be installed successfully/legally if they can be proven to be compliant.
Speaking with Deye & they are certifying the existing units - meaning they have the capability to do everything thats in the new standard.

Agreed, that's basically what Powerco told me, although it's up to the distribution company what they will accept if it's not on the list.

Its good to hear that the existing units are being approved without any hardware modifications. I wasn't told that by Deye, although I didn't ask specifically.

Can I ask, did you order yours through Alibaba? How was it delivered (air or sea) and what did it cost you all up?

 

[RichardNZ]

This is an AU thread & looks like you're in NZ... so we'll give you some schtick, but welcome you nonetheless - our beached as brew.

By discharge - do you mean offset grid consumption, or actually just blindly feed in an amount of power?
You can:
zero export to load - which only provides power to the backup load port
Zero export to CT - provides power to backup load port & feeds back into the grid to offset usage, done via CT
Selling first - sells solar back to grid, and can sell battery back to grid, just set a max power output & voltages/% for battery levels

Thanks for the welcome. I fully expect some drop bears my way
This thread came up in a google search with recent posts.

Currently the unit only has the grid connection.
The CT seems to be measuring correctly. Verified with a clamp meter

We want the battery to discharge to cover consumption when solar in insufficient.
And overnight until preset low battery levels are reached.

I tried all 3 modes and it did not seem to do much.
I was a little impatient and didn't want more than 5 mins after each setting change.

It would seem the setting I should be using is, Zero export to CT + sell.
In theory this should, charge battery from solar during the day when there is excess.
Discharge when there is insufficient solar.
Excess solar will be sold.


@
cods4
It has been inspected.
I used the term commission loosely here, I helped with final software setup.

Vector(Auckland) approved the unit after their form was submitted with required paperwork showing comparable EU compliance.
He imported from Aliexpress via sea with solar panels.
It was around $12k? landed for Inverter/4x 250Ah sla/5Kw panels + rails.
Sat in storage for 6 months before installing.

 

[nate_syd]

It would seem the setting I should be using is, Zero export to CT + sell.
In theory this should, charge battery from solar during the day when there is excess.
Discharge when there is insufficient solar.
Excess solar will be sold.

Correct - thats the setting you want.
It will do load then battery (setting your priority), then sell.

The units need ~1-2min at times to "reset" and go into the new mode when you change a setting, so make sure you give them time.
The power the CT reads will be in the top right of the unit, that should always be close to zero.

 

[koobs]

When zero export to CT is on, it also follows the scheduler time and battery export limits. Its on the next page in setup.
Ensure the export limit is set to something reasonable enough for your battery, wiring etc.

 

[cods4]

Thanks for the welcome. I fully expect some drop bears my way
This thread came up in a google search with recent posts.

Currently the unit only has the grid connection.
The CT seems to be measuring correctly. Verified with a clamp meter

We want the battery to discharge to cover consumption when solar in insufficient.
And overnight until preset low battery levels are reached.

I tried all 3 modes and it did not seem to do much.
I was a little impatient and didn't want more than 5 mins after each setting change.

It would seem the setting I should be using is, Zero export to CT + sell.
In theory this should, charge battery from solar during the day when there is excess.
Discharge when there is insufficient solar.
Excess solar will be sold.


@
cods4
It has been inspected.
I used the term commission loosely here, I helped with final software setup.

Vector(Auckland) approved the unit after their form was submitted with required paperwork showing comparable EU compliance.
He imported from Aliexpress via sea with solar panels.
It was around $12k? landed for Inverter/4x 250Ah sla/5Kw panels + rails.
Sat in storage for 6 months before installing.

Let us know how you go
I'm doing a similar system, just bigger.

 

[cods4]

I have just heard from Deye that the SG04 models have been approved now, and they are still waiting on the SG03 model to be done.

Does anyone have any idea what the differences are between these? All i can see on the datasheets is that the SG03 is much heavier and taller.

I have asked Deye, but would be good to get another opinion.

All they have said so far is that the SG04 is cheaper.

 

[koobs]

I have just heard from Deye that the SG04 models have been approved now, and they are still waiting on the SG03 model to be done.

Does anyone have any idea what the differences are between these? All i can see on the datasheets is that the SG03 is much heavier and taller.

I have asked Deye, but would be good to get another opinion.

All they have said so far is that the SG04 is cheaper.

Great to hear it's approved! I was only able to get the SG03 when asking a few different suppliers.
Not sure what the difference is exactly. Heavier and taller is good. The unit generates enough heat already, and without a fan, the heavier unit with the bigger heatsink will last longer.

 

[cods4]

Great to hear it's approved! I was only able to get the SG03 when asking a few different suppliers.
Not sure what the difference is exactly. Heavier and taller is good. The unit generates enough heat already, and without a fan, the heavier unit with the bigger heatsink will last longer.

I have had a close look at the manuals for each side by side and didn't notice any material differences in there. So I'm expecting that the SG04 is just the newer model with either better cooling (read louder fan) or more efficient components that require smaller heatsinks and less cooling.

I'm leaning towards the SG04 now as it will give me more room underneath to install by DC breakers for the batteries.

One thing I noticed when reading through the test report is that they didn't test it with multiple units in parallel. I'm not sure if this will be a problem (is anyone really going to read through it in that much detail and say that it can't be used in parallel). But I have asked them to find out if the report/cert can be updated to include paralleling the units, just to cover all bases.

 

[nate_syd]

FYI - They're approved!
Came through in April

Approved Inverters | Clean Energy Council

Browse the Clean Energy Council's list of compliant inverters and power conversion equipment (PCE) suitable for installation under the Small-scale Renewable Energy Scheme (SRES). Inverters with Software Communication Clients The Inverters with Software Communication Clients list includes…

www.cleanenergycouncil.org.au

 

[cods4]

The CEC website is showing just the 3phase models at the moment. But the single phase ones should start showing up soon.

 

[toms]

I feel so much safer now

 

[nate_syd]

I feel so much safer now

bwahahahaha
From looking around - it seems to be really focused around reactive power management & being able to throttle the output down during periods of high solar PV output, for grid stabilization.
The old models could do everything & have the features, but the old standard never checked for them etc.

There's also a new company that has them (search deye inverter australia) - speaking with them now

 

[Scph9002]

do these work offgrid?

 

[koobs]

do these work offgrid?

Yep they sure do. I'm getting 3 of them to run parallel for an offgrid rural property.

 

[koobs]

Trying to buy a 3rd inverter to run in parallel. The contact told me the Deye factory has shut down due to China lockdowns, and they don't expect to see any more production for the rest of the year!!

 

[cods4]

Trying to buy a 3rd inverter to run in parallel. The contact told me the Deye factory has shut down due to China lockdowns, and they don't expect to see any more production for the rest of the year!!

Wow thats interesting. I got my three sent out in April in the midst of the Shanghai lockdowns. I thought things were starting to open up a bit over there.

 

[nate_syd]

FYI - New Aus approved inverters are now available! Been chasing these down for my sisters install...

Joule Power

Joule power is the authorised distributor of ZRGP batteries and DEYE inverters in Australia. We carry a wide range of battery, inverter and All-in-One products to suite your energy storage requirements.

joulepower.com.au

 

[cods4]

FYI - New Aus approved inverters are now available! Been chasing these down for my sisters install...

Joule Power

Joule power is the authorised distributor of ZRGP batteries and DEYE inverters in Australia. We carry a wide range of battery, inverter and All-in-One products to suite your energy storage requirements.

joulepower.com.au

Nice, I'd be interested to hear what they sell for in Aus.

I have three of those ones here in NZ.

 

[accio]

Did we ever figure out the difference between the SG01, SG03, SG04 and SG05 models?

I'm looking to import 2x from China for a 10kW panel installation. Can't tell what the difference is.