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How much difference does cleaning your panels really make? - A quick and dirty study.

crossy

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Background
Myself and JAS live about 20km apart as the crow flies, at this time of year in Thailand there's no localised storm activity so we get broadly similar weather. Although our systems are of different capacities the panels are oriented in roughly the same direction and angle. We also tend to clean our panels on a sort of regular basis.

The factor we used to determine if cleaning made a measurable difference was Total Daily Solar Generation which would be in kWh.

What we did
Testing took place over two 2-day periods.

Period 1 - 27th and 28th February 2023
JAS cleaned his panels on the morning of the 28th, I did nothing (my system is the control or weather-reference).
27th JAS = 21.92kWh Crossy = 40.60kWh
28th JAS = 23.31kWh Crossy = 38.30kWh

The reference output went down by about 4.25%
If we apply that factor to JAS output on the 28th we get a corrected output of 24.71kWh.
So, the effective change from cleaning is about +12.7%

Period 2 - 4th and 5th March 2023
This time I cleaned my panels on the morning of the 5th and JAS did nothing (so his system is the reference)
4th JAS = 23.22kWh Crossy = 35.9kWh
5th JAS = 22.39kWh Crossy = 37.9kWh

The reference output went down by 3.6%
Applying that factor to my system output on the 5th gives a corrected output of 39.30kWh
So, the effective change from cleaning is about +9.5%

Conclusion
It's not a particularly good test methodology and neither set of panels was particularly dirty (JAS panels were probably a bit dirtier than mine), but there does seem to be a correlation between cleaning them and a not insignificant increase in output.

Of course, this does assume that I've done my sums correctly, which is why I've included our measurements if anyone wants to pull my maths apart ?

We will do the same test again when we clean again, actual schedule hasn't been decided as yet, probably about a month unless things look particularly grubby.
 
I find that in the winter half of the year, when we actually see some rain showers around here, they keep the panels clean and nice.
Summertime here in southern Spain we get a LOT of calima which is brown/grey dust blowing over the Med from the Sahara in addition to pollen from around march until october. A real bother to keep the panels clean coupled with a LOT of calcium in our local wellwater...fun n games... :rolleyes:
It almost does not rain at all from 01st of may until 1st of october.

Considering some purified water and a separate Kärcher pressure washer just for the panels...hm...
 
Yeah, I remember half the Sahara blowing into Rome on a number of occasions when we lived in Italy. No solar then but keeping the car clean(ish) was a nightmare and the windscreen washer chaps were almost begging to be permitted to make mud on the screen.

EDIT We have one of these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005074349025.html not cheap but it makes cleaning the panels easy and doubles up to clean our upstairs windows (which is how I justified getting it to Madam) :)
 
Considering some purified water and a separate Kärcher pressure washer just for the panels...hm...

I would avoid the pressure washer unless it can be turned right down pressure wise. You don't want to compromise the seals on your panels :(

Filtered, ion-exchanged (softened) water definitely.
 
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There are published scientific papers on the subject of the impact of panel cleaning. It's not much.

Unless you live in a particularly polluted area with a lot of particulates, then just pay attention to spot dirt, such as persistent bird dropping, and especially lichen. Else rain generally does a god job.

It's not a particularly good test methodology
Show us the production data for the next 7 days.
 
Show us the production data for the next 7 days.

Can do. It's not a secret.

We tried to do a relatively controlled test with what's available (no lab), members can read in what they like, hence my including our data.
By the way, does northern Bangkok count as "particularly polluted"?

Do you have a link to the studies please?
 
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Cleaning your panels can result a small gain but where I live, the high desert winds can carry a lot of dust and with in days a layer of dust have accumulated where it’s a never ending battle!! Now I can understand how any Mars landers and rovers that is solar power haves a short life span
 
How about get a pane of glass for measuring dirt accumulation?

Place/mount it outside at a similar tilt angle as the panels. Then use a Solar Irradiance Meter in front of glass and behind the glass to periodically check how much dirt accumulation is affecting solar solar radiance. Then you will know when panels are due for a cleaning.

Maybe something similar to this:

 
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We are in the season here that "snows" sticky, yellow pollen on the panels 24x7.
Very little rain here, this time of year.
I am going to try the pressure washer w/ automotive soap/foam dispenser.
This low pressure option uses soap w/ a surfactant that might help release the pollen so I can hose it off.
 
We are in the season here that "snows" sticky, yellow pollen on the panels 24x7.
Very little rain here, this time of year.
I am going to try the pressure washer w/ automotive soap/foam dispenser.
This low pressure option uses soap w/ a surfactant that might help release the pollen so I can hose it off.
I guess they make special cleaner for solar panels, because regular soap can cause hazing after time as it accumulates into the pores of the glass.

I was also thinking of putting a sediment filter on my hose so I don’t leave a mineral residue on the panels.
 
I blew off the dirt and grass clippings after I had mowed, won me around 100W from my 8.4kw laid out in the back yard.
Was driving down I95 yesterday and saw a solar field where the panels were absolutely covered in pollen, they must have been down on production.
 
Do you have a link to the studies please?
PubMed and Google are your friends.

Being Bangkok might have an impact. There was a Singapore study in 2012 about dust there outside of rain season which indicated quite the impact of glass but they didn't use solar PV:

But honestly, there are scores of studies. It takes considerable time and research skill and experience to be able to parse them.

End of the day if you can consistently see an improvement, then go for it. Just use suitable techniques to reduce the chances of panel degradation or damage.
 
How about get a pane of glass for measuring dirt accumulation?

Place/mount it outside at a similar tilt angle as the panels. Then use a Solar Irradiance Meter in front of glass and behind the glass to periodically check how much dirt accumulation is affecting solar solar radiance. Then you will know when panels are due for a cleaning.

Maybe something similar to this:


I actually have a luxmeter, I'd never thought of using a glass pane to collect the goop.

Now weather (sorry) the meter will have the necessary resolution we will have to determine. Got to find a suitable piece of glass.
 
...yellow pollen on the panels ...
Yellow pollen is probably the biggest impactor here.
Regular dirt and grime don't seem to impact them too much (although how black a rag gets from wiping them is scary).
The panels here don't have much tilt so the bottom inch or so does get a buildup.
 
You need something like this Robot cleaner.

The bloke who used to clean our windows diversified into commercial PV panel cleaning and used something like that a few years ago.
 
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