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Bifacial or Mono Longi Panels? High winds, little snow...

LordGarak

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I'm trying to decide between 550w mono panels and 545w bifacial Longi panels. Price is nearly the same.

We have extreme winds of up to 200km/h at our off grid property. Which has us very nervous about ground mount solar. We currently have 1200watts of panels mounted on the cabin roof. It works great in the summer, but the angle is all wrong for winter as we never planned on being at the cabin in the winter. My retired parents have spent most of this winter at the cabin.

We do need to build a shed for storing the UTV, skidoos, etc... So we are considering building it with solar in mind and having a wall/roof at the optimum angle for winter solar collection. This option wouldn't be ideal for bifacial. But would the bifacial still outperform mono in this situation? Under the grey skies of winter?

If we do go ground mount, we will be putting two ~6" post in the ground between each panel and 2x4" rough lumber between the post. It would need to be very sturdy to handle the wind. So the backs of the panels will be partially blocked.

In recent years we only seem to get significant snow in February and March. Temperatures in this summer rarely go above 23C with very hot days being under 30C

Looking at adding 8 panels for atleast 4360W. Currently running a 2000W generator for 4+ hours a day in the winter. In the summer the 1200W array actually meets our needs. Our objective is to nearly never have to run the generator.
 
Bifacial should be twice as robust as it has two layers of tempered glass instead of one.

You can get bifacial benefit even roof/wall mounted if you plan wisely. Check this video:

I'd elevate those panels even 10-20cm higher and keep 10-15cm spacing between panels in every direction so that light can enter behind the panels. With ultra white roof/wall you might get up to 20-25% bifacial gain this way.

You should have at least some panels installed vertically (on those shed walls?) if you get snow for even two months. Panels covered with snow produce next to nothing.

We rarely get winds over 100km/h, so my vertical bi-panels are installed without any backside shading. Link to my thread in my signature. First two pages are about panel installation.
 
I have also read that single sided panels are actually stronger.
The bifacials have thinner glass.
 
I doubt there is any advantage to bifacial unless there is adequate clearance from the back to take advantage. PERC and 1/2 cell technology might prove to be a better option
 
I started questioning this when I've seen most/all bifacial panels use thinner glass(2mm) on the front then you typically see on a mono(3mm+).
I can't be sure, but would think 2mm + 2mm (=4mm of glass) sandwich construction on bi-panels should be considerably stronger than 3,2mm single glass on monopanels. Also haven't seen any frameless monopanels, but that might be just me. I know there are many frameless bi-panels out there.

Here a somewhat disturbing video of bi-panel durability.

I doubt there is any advantage to bifacial unless there is adequate clearance from the back to take advantage.
THIS! There's no production advantage if you can't get backside irradiation. But that can be easily done with proper installation (elevated, "loosely" installed panels with reflective background like white roof).

PERC and 1/2 cell technology might prove to be a better option
Shingled cell panels should have superior micro crack resistance over PERC because they can flex. For high wind locations I wouldn't consider any other design. Shingled should be also better with low light and less than ideal sun angle conditions (salesman's speech though).
 
I can't be sure, but would think 2mm + 2mm (=4mm of glass) sandwich construction on bi-panels should be considerably stronger than 3,2mm single glass on monopanels. Also haven't seen any frameless monopanels, but that might be just me. I know there are many frameless bi-panels out there.
This could be. It looks like that one does use tempered on both sides and also has some clear encapsulant around the cells themselves so it effectively is all a single thick layer. Not sure other bifacials have that clear encapsulant?
 
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