That seems like a great deal!I posted in another thread about 5kWh wall mounted for $950. Ships from US. Not AliBaba or similar.
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5kWh wall mounted battery under $1000
I just saw this product online and wanted to share with the community what I believe is a good deal. Possibly not the right forum? For obvious reasons, no link here. I bought an 80A solar charge controller from this company and it worked right out of the box. Had some interaction with customer...diysolarforum.com
How to run a 2900 sqft all electric home from 6000 watts of PV
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Quattrohead
Solar Wizard
Very interesting experiment, congratulations to your whole family for taking it seriously. Your numbers really do show the efficiency to cost balance ratio. It will be very interesting to go through a whole summer to see how it holds up before you start making changes.
I increasingly ran our present house on solar as an experiment to find out what I would need for our new home build. Our new home is 100% off grid with no intention of ever connecting and it is an all-electric house in Florida.
BTW, just remember that solar panels are now so cheap that the racking and wiring probably costs a similar amount, make sure you account for that in your future calculations.
I increasingly ran our present house on solar as an experiment to find out what I would need for our new home build. Our new home is 100% off grid with no intention of ever connecting and it is an all-electric house in Florida.
BTW, just remember that solar panels are now so cheap that the racking and wiring probably costs a similar amount, make sure you account for that in your future calculations.
I posted in another thread about 5kWh wall mounted for $950. Ships from US. Not AliBaba or similar.
Free shipping.
5kWh wall mounted battery under $1000
I just saw this product online and wanted to share with the community what I believe is a good deal. Possibly not the right forum? For obvious reasons, no link here. I bought an 80A solar charge controller from this company and it worked right out of the box. Had some interaction with customer...
While I did work with an installer, for the most part he just did the labor and I bought the parts.The cost of large gauge wiring in particular surprised me at how expensive it was!
I checked out the battery and what I found weird is the lifespan is “5-10 years”. What does that mean? Eg4 power pro by contrast has a 8000 charge cycle time. That means if you charge it every day it’s lifespan is 20 years. what am I missing on the Amp Inc battery you posted? Am I reading this wrong orI posted in another thread about 5kWh wall mounted for $950. Ships from US. Not AliBaba or similar.
Free shipping.
5kWh wall mounted battery under $1000
I just saw this product online and wanted to share with the community what I believe is a good deal. Possibly not the right forum? For obvious reasons, no link here. I bought an 80A solar charge controller from this company and it worked right out of the box. Had some interaction with customer...
These cycle counts are somewhat worthless and a lot of marketing thrown in by people who may not even understand what they are talking about so I wouldn't read too much into that. As you are probably aware many solar installations will not come anywhere near cycling once per day.
CaliSunHarvester
Solar Enthusiast
*I* was not aware of this. My installation of 12/22/2023 goes routinely to 25% by the morning and 3x below 10%. That's 105 days.
For some reason, the batteries' BMSs state a cycle count of 46 to 50.
ksmithaz1
Solar / EV Junkie
You might be able to run your 2900 sqft house with a 50A inverter and 6KW, but why on earth would you want to?
My setup is going to be close but insufficient this summer, I have over double what you have with 1/2 the sq footage. If you are serious leave room for 2-3 more inverters. I don't want to have to adjust my lifestyle just so I can have solar. That defeats the purpose, IMNSHO. The two 3T's are going to kill you this summer, your dreaming if you think that SolArk is going to handle them plus anything else when it hit's 100+. My 4T was pulling 4.2KW this summer, basically just *ON* from 1300. If you are all-electric, jack in a HWH, an oven/range, a clothes dryer, (Forget an EV), your demand is going to crush the system. Can it be done? Sure, but I can tell you the battery is going to be grossly too small even if you can get demand down, and 6KW of panels is not even going to be close. I have 20KW of panels, the most I've seen is about 120KWH in a day. My electric usage in July and August are over 3MWH.
Hopefully your family will not leave.
My setup is going to be close but insufficient this summer, I have over double what you have with 1/2 the sq footage. If you are serious leave room for 2-3 more inverters. I don't want to have to adjust my lifestyle just so I can have solar. That defeats the purpose, IMNSHO. The two 3T's are going to kill you this summer, your dreaming if you think that SolArk is going to handle them plus anything else when it hit's 100+. My 4T was pulling 4.2KW this summer, basically just *ON* from 1300. If you are all-electric, jack in a HWH, an oven/range, a clothes dryer, (Forget an EV), your demand is going to crush the system. Can it be done? Sure, but I can tell you the battery is going to be grossly too small even if you can get demand down, and 6KW of panels is not even going to be close. I have 20KW of panels, the most I've seen is about 120KWH in a day. My electric usage in July and August are over 3MWH.
Hopefully your family will not leave.
I think the system is undersized but 4 inverters total? That's grossly oversized
Even at 100kwh a day. How much of the time is the op using more than 12kw? Maybe 10% .
His current inverter and a some more solar and battery should be enough to handle at least 90% of annual demand
My family would be more at a risk of leaving had I wasted money on a system that over produces 8 months of the year just to brag that my utility bill is near zero during a few hot months. IMNSHO
Check this one out...this is way below what you are hoping for...
Experience sharing - Buying a 51.2v 14.33KWH Wall mount battery pack from Shenzhen Basen Tech (US stock)
Hi, Just want to share the experience so far regarding buying a 14.33KWH Wall mount battery pack (BR-OW-LV 14.33KWH) from Shenzhen Basen Technology US stock. It comes with GRADE A REPT 280ah cells and 200 amps BMS. It also has wheels, bluetooth enabled and a LCD. The representative Carrier...
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PotusGobbleBottom
Corn Pop was a bad dude.
RIGHT! not worth it in my opinion. November to Feb is almost worthless where I am so there is not way Id be using the inverters for much.
Interesting!Check this one out...this is way below what you are hoping for...
Experience sharing - Buying a 51.2v 14.33KWH Wall mount battery pack from Shenzhen Basen Tech (US stock)
Hi, Just want to share the experience so far regarding buying a 14.33KWH Wall mount battery pack (BR-OW-LV 14.33KWH) from Shenzhen Basen Technology US stock. It comes with GRADE A REPT 280ah cells and 200 amps BMS. It also has wheels, bluetooth enabled and a LCD. The representative Carrier...
ksmithaz1
Solar / EV Junkie
I was pulling your chain. . . Sorry, left out a smiley or two.
The '6K' mention was causing old man confusion, I was thinking about the EG4 inverter. You are likely going to want "more" this summer. The cheapest improvement is panels, based on your statement, I'd double it to 12K of PV, probably the simplest upgrade with ROI. I still say I don't want to change my lifestyle. So, I'm comfortable using 50+KW a day before solar, so I spend money on solar to reduce my electric bill, then force myself into a bunch of energy saving behaviors to try and make it maximize my savings and improve the ROI. Ok, but I think we are skewing the ROI, since usage is not apples to apples. Opinions are like *ssholes
!You probably want to get past TOU for your savings. APS or SRP? Arizona has really low rates off-peak. Even on-peak with the latest bump, in July, SRP is only like $0.28, between 2-8PM, which is less than my Kid pays any time in MA. Then again she doesn't use 120KWH some days in July. I'm going to bet you have a 200A panel (At least 150A) feeding your house. A pair of Sol-Arks would take you to 100A (+ some surge) of output which covers quite a lot of demand. This is actually quite doable, without breaking the bank, and gives you a modicum of redundancy. With 100A of inverter output you should be able to pretty much run everything, no matter the demand load in an all-electric home. This would allow you to gradually move everything to a sub-panel fed from an ATS arrangement. This means you don't have to do creative load balancing when demand exceeds 50A, which you must do if you don't.
You could just dedicate a few low use high demand items to the grid panel like the range, the clothes dryer and the hot water heater (HWH). Trying to float these loads manually or creatively with some ATS control is doable, this is in-fact something I currently have in place, which I want to eliminate. If my total usage exceeds 80A (Don't forget the 80% rule, no more than 3 hours over 80% of rated load), I have ATS's that will cut my EV charging platform, and oven range directly to the grid. You might look into an EV load share switch, I'm using one one to feed my HWH and Dryer. These switches can be had for a couple hundred bucks, and have high/low priority output, in my case Dryer is high, HWH is low. Pretty simple inexpensive way to limit demand.
I think you will find your ~30KW of batteries will probably put you about where you want to be so you should be pretty close there for maximal ROI, and get you over the TOU humps most of the time, which is where you are going to maximize your savings. It will not take you through the night, and from time to time you may not make it thru TOU, but power is cheap off-peak here so, until the bragging rights bug hits you should be golden.
I have dramatically more panels, and will be expanding there, but I also have two(2) EV's so the additional panels really help to feed the EV's. The extra battery I have is multi-fold, for crappy winter production, to possibly make it thru the hottest summer nights, when there are production disruptions, and to allow me to bleed excess power from the batteries into the EV's in the afternoon after I get home from work. I was tapping into the grid quite a bit December thru February even with the extra battery (added Nov). To your $$$ point the extra $10K of batteries has a pretty long payback with $0.08/KWH power savings. I think there is an added intangible benefit with power backup, in the event of a grid failure. It can be a bit hard to put a price tag on that piece. For me I can't remember the last time my grid was down so meh
!You did it!, congratulations!, and I hope you are having some fun playing around with all this stuff! You've obviously spent more than a modicum of time evaluating options, be sure to post how you are doing in July!
