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Philips may have created the best LED bulb yet

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100% real frosted glass bulb
2700k LED filament
Weight like incandescent
Filament gently shakes while handling
Suitable for wet locations
Suitable for enclosed fixtures
Title 20 Compliant (legal in California)
Dimming with certain compatible dimmers
"Flicker Free" - To be confirmed by off grid community

I was getting distraught last year that LED bulbs were just getting worse but this is a comeback. It feels like an incandescent.

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www.usa.lighting.philips.com

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Philips LED light bulbs provide a beautiful, warm white light, an exceptionally long life, and immediate, significant energy savings. With a pure and elegant design, this bulb is the perfect replacement for your frosted traditional bulbs.
www.usa.lighting.philips.com www.usa.lighting.philips.com
 
Unfortunately, the "75W" and "100W" versions only come in A21 bulb size. I suspect this a ridiculous result of Title 20.
 
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Who cares?
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Lol. Maybe I should not just assume that everybody shares my same emotional attachment to bits of technology as symbols of change.

You and I probably view this from two different directions, as we do solar, where you might just see progress and improvement I see proliferating complexity. A lightbulb that is dependent on the semiconductor supply chain and massive global technological cooperation, leading us into a more fragile world built like a house of cards.

But I wouldn't argue with you on that because if you are operating on a fundamental assumption that solar technology can continue to produce an increasing abundance of energy for the foreseeable future, then that energy will support this increasing complexity. And I'm working on a totally different assumption, that peak oil is still coming.

 
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Lol. Maybe I should not just assume that everybody shares my same emotional attachment to bits of technology as symbols of change.

You and I probably view this from two different directions, as we do solar, where you might just see progress and improvement I see proliferating complexity. A lightbulb that is dependent on the semiconductor supply chain and massive global technological cooperation, leading us into a more fragile world built like a house of cards.

But I wouldn't argue with you on that because if you are operating on a fundamental assumption that solar technology can continue to produce an increasing abundance of energy for the foreseeable future, then that energy will support this increasing complexity. And I'm working on a totally different assumption, that peak oil is still coming.

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Just watched that video. Holy hell. Yeah, Im with ya, we dont need to import our f -ing light bulbs.
 
hwy17 said:
Lol. Maybe I should not just assume that everybody shares my same emotional attachment to bits of technology as symbols of change.

You and I probably view this from two different directions, as we do solar, where you might just see progress and improvement I see proliferating complexity. A lightbulb that is dependent on the semiconductor supply chain and massive global technological cooperation, leading us into a more fragile world built like a house of cards.

But I wouldn't argue with you on that because if you are operating on a fundamental assumption that solar technology can continue to produce an increasing abundance of energy for the foreseeable future, then that energy will support this increasing complexity. And I'm working on a totally different assumption, that peak oil is still coming.

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If you like incandescent, why don't you just buy incandescent?

There are already many led bulbs that are indistinguishable from incandescent in looks except that they measure lower cri vs 99 for inc, and use 1/10 the power.


I'm sure when the first incandescent lightbulb came out there were those who felt it was "proliferating complexity". I'm sure they felt candles and lanterns were better, yet, the march of progress is unstoppable , and inevitable
 
I had a problem with the E12 Base Candlabra bulbs flickering when my washer was on the spin cycle.
I tried a few different bulbs and finally bought the Phillips flicker free E12 base candleabra bulbs, they work great with no flicker.
 
SparkyJJO said:
Honestly Philips has been my favorite bulb brand for years, regardless of type
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Same. Ever since those old big heavy ones with the heat sink. I still have most of those, still working.

It was in the last couple years I got some Philips at Home Depot and they were super cheap and light. I thought it was a sign the new owners were gutting the brand and just riding the brand name. But this is better than ever now.
 
My house is full of these lamps. I have a friend who claims to be extremely sensitive to LED flicker. When I told her she was not only sitting in a room lighted with LEDs, but being powered by batteries and an inverter, she didn’t believe me. I had to remove one from a lamp and show her.

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Make an affordable LED bulb that doesn't die sooner then an incadesent and then we will pass out a medal.
 
Bought some oddball brand for $26 for 25 pack on Amazon 2700k, clear sealed glass globe, 2w s14, E26 with 2 "filament" that looks very similar..4 years ago. They run cool and havent dimmed over time. Worked so well in overhead multibulb fixtures and lamps that i used them all over.

Have also used other name brands like Sylvania. some other brands have run hot and others have failed with some kind of blinking problem, slow on off. Maybe I got a bad batch, but even other cheap plastic dollar store bulbs have worked well if not for a few failures and voltage drop sensitivity.
 
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If you like incandescent, why don't you just buy incandescent?
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Because they eat electricity, and don't last. Thus if you can get an LED that performs the same in look & feel that lasts 10 times as long it's a win. The problem is getting a bulb that actually performs the same from a look and feel standpoint.
 
ksmithaz1 said:
Because they eat electricity, and don't last. Thus if you can get an LED that performs the same in look & feel that lasts 10 times as long it's a win. The problem is getting a bulb that actually performs the same from a look and feel standpoint.
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That's not a problem for anyone except a few who want it the old way.
 
I haven't found any different in the Title 20 requirements for A19 vs. A21 yet that would give a regulatory explanation for their weird choice to make A21's. The other possibility is that Philips needed to use A21 to get enough heat dissipation out of the glass for the "75W" and "100W"output bulbs.

It's causing a lot of confusion on Amazon, I know I didn't think to look out for that.
 
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