My Shroom Plan

dorkingit · Wednesday at 12:12 PM

I am building a mushroom grow operation (gourmet). I will be running sterilizers that draw 4.5-6k (once a week for 12 hours or so) and a few LED lights/fans. Also a 18K mini split system. Right now I have ordered:

(2) EG4 6000XP
(1) EG4 wall mount battery (considering a second but will be doing a shared battery bank for now)
(12) APTOS 440w bifacial DNA panels

This setup will be power t0 my 5-stall horse barn (converting to mushrooms). I have grid power to the barn that has a panel with 6 20amp circuits currently. I plan on using 2 of the breakers for a 50amp 220 to feed the invertor grid input. If I run the invertors in parallel with a shared battery bank, can I just run grid into one of the invertors? Would the same go for the solar input? Should I run 2 mppts on one and 1 mppt on the second? Should I run one Mppt on each? Any advice would be great.

TM48 · Wednesday at 1:46 PM

You'll need two dual pole breakers to feed two inverters. Each inverter needs the grid input. With 12 panels I'd run one string of six into each inverter.

dorkingit · Wednesday at 1:51 PM

Thank you for the reply

dorkingit · Wednesday at 1:51 PM

Will 50 amp breaker be enough for both

gotbeans · Wednesday at 1:56 PM

dorkingit said:
Will 50 amp breaker be enough for both

Link the equipment
It's likely they're required to have their own breakers each. 6000 watts at 240 volts will be 25 amps but all those big devices for some reason always require bigger wire and bigger breakers to match (I'd honestly just use a 2 pole 25 amp though if 6k is really their max) dryers are usually this way, outlets & wire are way oversized for 90% of them.
If you are following your own rules then yea 50 amp breaker will do both of them, try not to kick them both on at the same exact time

HalfBaked · Wednesday at 1:58 PM

dorkingit said:
sterilizers that draw 4.5-6k (once a week for 12 hours or so)

I also grow shrooms, just curious, UV or ozone or what?

gotbeans · Wednesday at 2:00 PM

HalfBaked said:
I also grow shrooms, just curious, UV or ozone or what?

99% of the ozone generators just use UV light and a fan.
Others are high voltage (like 4000 volts) and it splits oxygen molecules in there and they combine to o3 (also makes uv light)
anyway uv/ozone same thing

dorkingit · Wednesday at 3:19 PM

HalfBaked said:
I also grow shrooms, just curious, UV or ozone or what?

Steam barrel - bubba barrels for substrate
All American for spawn

This is the plan at the moment I am just starting off

sunsurfer · Wednesday at 6:49 PM

gotbeans said:
99% of the ozone generators just use UV light and a fan.
Others are high voltage (like 4000 volts) and it splits oxygen molecules in there and they combine to o3 (also makes uv light)
anyway uv/ozone same thing

Most of the OZ gens I have seen in the $50 range are using the little ceramic plate with the honeycomb shaped surface traces of silver(?). They have a small high voltage/low amp transformer based driver that produces the arcs between the traces. The plasma in the arcs produces ozone pretty well and the fan blows it out the front. It looks UV in color but its just plasma from the continues arching between the plates.

gotbeans · Thursday at 10:10 AM

sunsurfer said:
Most of the OZ gens I have seen in the $50 range are using the little ceramic plate with the honeycomb shaped surface traces of silver(?). They have a small high voltage/low amp transformer based driver that produces the arcs between the traces. The plasma in the arcs produces ozone pretty well and the fan blows it out the front. It looks UV in color but its just plasma from the continues arching between the plates.

yea those are the better ones
though they're also more likely to start a fire.. also why they're better :^)
Also yes they do generate UV light, how do you know "it looks UV in color" when humans can't see UV, are you a bee?

sunsurfer · Thursday at 12:40 PM

gotbeans said:
Also yes they do generate UV light, how do you know "it looks UV in color" when humans can't see UV, are you a bee?

Actually the human eye can see about 25% into the UV spectrum. Our lens filter it out to protect our eyes but there are people they have proven that can see some. Its kinda like a deep purple/white. Maybe my lens is leaky.

"Looks UV in color"....I can see the edge of band brilliance, but have never been tested to see if my eyes are special. My eyes are narrow band and tuned for green, how about yours?

gotbeans · Thursday at 1:09 PM

sunsurfer said:
Actually the human eye can see about 25% into the UV spectrum. Our lens filter it out to protect our eyes but there are people they have proven that can see some. Its kinda like a deep purple/white. Maybe my lens is leaky.

"Looks UV in color"....I can see the edge of band brilliance, but have never been tested to see if my eyes are special. My eyes are narrow band and tuned for green, how about yours?

UV spectrum is 200-400
human eye can see at most 380nm
which is 10% "into it" at most. and that's UVA which isn't used for any of this.
of course the production of the light is spitting out a large band of light not just the part you can't see. We do have lights for that but they're pretty bleeding edge and LED of course, and very expensive.

Anyway the technology is as I said it is, and still curious for a link to his units that pull 6k watts

sunsurfer · Thursday at 1:36 PM

gotbeans said:
UV spectrum is 200-400
human eye can see at most 380nm
which is 10% "into it" at most. and that's UVA which isn't used for any of this.
of course the production of the light is spitting out a large band of light not just the part you can't see. We do have lights for that but they're pretty bleeding edge and LED of course, and very expensive.

Anyway the technology is as I said it is, and still curious for a link to his units that pull 6k watts

Thats with lens filtering, the retina has been proven down to 300nm

Supervstech · Thursday at 3:27 PM

sunsurfer said:
Thats with lens filtering, the retina has been proven down to 300nm

Look up Claude Monet i remember reading about his eyes being damaged and his vision gained uv abilities from it...

featherlite · Thursday at 6:46 PM

Word has it that Hedges sees electrons in motion.

Citlalatonac · Thursday at 7:14 PM

featherlite said:
Word has it that Hedges sees electrons in motion.

But he can't see where they are.

featherlite · 2024-07-26T03:56:19-0700

Citlalatonac said:
But he can't see where they are.

Yes, because of the Heisenberg principle.

Crowz · 2024-07-26T04:17:20-0700

Supervstech said:
Look up Claude Monet i remember reading about his eyes being damaged and his vision gained uv abilities from it...

Thanks for posting that. I didn't know about him being able to see uv or actually anything about that painter at all till now

Very interesting google read for anyone else that runs across this.

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