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Hi, I have 4kW grid-tied system installed by the previous house owner about 15 years ago, which is using SunnyBoy SB400US. Being in Florida I would like to have solar backup for a single room AC and a fridge in case the grid goes down (due to a hurricane for example). I have found that the newer models of SMA SunnyBoy (for example SB400TL-US) can provide what they call Secure Power Supply of 1500W without any batteries when the grid goes down. But that looks barely enough for a very tiny AC unit. In a promotional video SMA is showing they can provide power to operate a room fan and charge an iphone, which is not too impressive.
So my questions are:
1) Has anyone solved a similar problem without using batteries and how? I feel it's a waste of money to have a battery backup which is likely to be used just a couple of weeks a year or so. Instead I would rather use the solar during the day and a gasoline generator (which I already have) during a night.
2) If the batteries are the only viable option, can anyone provide some experience with a similar system? Is it effectively building a parallel off-grid system which is using the same solar panels for both grid and off-grid? That is when the grid goes down, I would manually pull a transfer switch which would transfer output from the solar into an inverter which is powering the couple of outlets to which I would plug in the AC and the fridge? The batteries would also switch from the normal operation when they are kept charged from the grid/solar when the grid is up, and change to the off-grid mode when the grid is off? What battery sizes/voltages do people recommend for this application?
In any case I would definitely prefer lead batteries (I've built an electric sports car 2000A 144V DC with both lead and lithium versions and frankly I find lithium batteries too finicky to manage - lead is much more predictable and reliable)
3) Any experience with using capacitors? If the solar inverter without batteries does not have enough surge power to start an AC unit, would adding large capacitors work?
Any help appreciated, thanks!
So my questions are:
1) Has anyone solved a similar problem without using batteries and how? I feel it's a waste of money to have a battery backup which is likely to be used just a couple of weeks a year or so. Instead I would rather use the solar during the day and a gasoline generator (which I already have) during a night.
2) If the batteries are the only viable option, can anyone provide some experience with a similar system? Is it effectively building a parallel off-grid system which is using the same solar panels for both grid and off-grid? That is when the grid goes down, I would manually pull a transfer switch which would transfer output from the solar into an inverter which is powering the couple of outlets to which I would plug in the AC and the fridge? The batteries would also switch from the normal operation when they are kept charged from the grid/solar when the grid is up, and change to the off-grid mode when the grid is off? What battery sizes/voltages do people recommend for this application?
In any case I would definitely prefer lead batteries (I've built an electric sports car 2000A 144V DC with both lead and lithium versions and frankly I find lithium batteries too finicky to manage - lead is much more predictable and reliable)
3) Any experience with using capacitors? If the solar inverter without batteries does not have enough surge power to start an AC unit, would adding large capacitors work?
Any help appreciated, thanks!