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Solar and the Economy Your Thoughts??? Or anything else on your mind!

On the subject of apocalyptic disasters and solar. Watching the news last night in the coverage of the major earthquake in Turkey and Syria I happened to notice in the building rubble several solar panels. Really tragic all the loss of life and all the destruction. But it is interesting how if you have an interest in something (like a particular car) you notice it more readily.
Terrible deal... I saw those panels as well but didn't get a long enough look to see if they had somehow magically landed on top of the rubble or had been haphazardly put up to charge something.
 
I think they fully realize that there is not enough lithium (before you even start considering the grid issues) to replace even half of the cars with electric in the US, let alone the world.
Which is why they are already preparing the plebes that private car ownership is bad and should be given up.
Private jets for them, and bugs for you!
 
So I bought my first grid tied system 9 yrs ago. I used some non qualified retirement money and my reasoning was once retired the name of the game is fixed costs. ROI was 10 yrs but was down to 8 yrs. Solar was a part of my retirement strategy. Late last year I upgraded to AIO and storage I did myself. ROI probably another 10-12 yrs but with world events unfolding as they are self sufficiency is the new name of the game. So I may not get complete ROI but peace of mind is literally priceless
 
I think they fully realize that there is not enough lithium (before you even start considering the grid issues) to replace even half of the cars with electric in the US, let alone the world.
Which is why they are already preparing the plebes that private car ownership is bad and should be given up.
Private jets for them, and bugs for you!
You will eat ze bugs
 
No replacement the plan is to lure you into adopting EVs and then it will be report your mileage on your taxes along with the associated road tax. There absolutely will be taxes charged for EVs just a matter of time.
I didn't go there, but I totally agree. Can't wait for them to start charging me per mile. Can't build and maintain roads without it.
 
I think they fully realize that there is not enough lithium (before you even start considering the grid issues) to replace even half of the cars with electric in the US, let alone the world.
Lithium is fairly abundant on this planet. Converting it is an issue. That is the fundamental issue with any mineral and economics will adjust the price or technology will find more efficient ways of extraction..Whomever "they" are, they are misinformed. Manufacturing capacity is the current issue, not raw materials.
 
The green agenda is a WEF plan to control the population. We are entering into a period of Grand Solar Minimum that is going to change everything.
Soon it will be Global Warming bring it on.
 
Lithium is fairly abundant on this planet. Converting it is an issue. That is the fundamental issue with any mineral and economics will adjust the price or technology will find more efficient ways of extraction..Whomever "they" are, they are misinformed. Manufacturing capacity is the current issue, not raw materials.
Battery technology is in its infancy 10 yrs from now who knows but I bet it’s not Lithium.
 
There are very interesting gains in plastic based battery research. We're a ways off from a breakthrough, but viable ideas are being tested.

The most viable battery I've seen recently is the radioactive diamond.

Immediate risks to the general public are certainly the Ukraine proxy war turning into full blown war, which China will use to lash out and test its muscle in Taiwan. Or solar flares with Earth's weakening magnetic field. Given our known historical probabilities of X class flares, it's betting against the house to say we won't be hit in the next 10-20 years as we are near the solar maximum for the shorter cycle.
 
A strong and reliable grid is an essential part of a developed country's infrastructure, like roads and clean water. Widespread abandoning of the grid is not realistic and a huge waste of consumer's and society's time and money.

Apocalyptic scenarios make great stories but hopefully only deluded people will dedicate their lives to shtf preparations.
 
A strong and reliable grid is an essential part of a developed country's infrastructure, like roads and clean water. Widespread abandoning of the grid is not realistic and a huge waste of consumer's and society's time and money.
I agree that we can't abandon the grid right now, that doesn't mean there will not be other even more reliable and cheaper sources available in the future. Generating electricity isn't all that expensive, transport, reliability, billing take up a fair chunk of the final costs. Rooftop solar is going to disrupt the current business model and should be a concern for policy makers.

Apocalyptic scenarios make great stories but hopefully only deluded people will dedicate their lives to shtf preparations.
Agreed.
 
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