Bluedog225
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I suspect the idea of a carport with solar charging without having to run wire from the house or touch the grid stuff will have some appeal.
most of the telsa drivers i see/know drive like they are in an ICE. i can get my leaf down to 225 Wh/mile but then again i started driving electric 18 years ago on my home built cars/bikes that had very limited rangeI wish we could find off the shelf DC-DC Tesla chargers. But its just not available. I wish I could go direct from my 48v battery to the car.
Thats pretty high, my M3 LR only uses about 25kWh per 100 miles at 70-75mph.
this reminds me of tablets/e-readers with cell phone connection. for the past 25+ years we have had hand held devices, some even the same size as cell phones, most more powerful than cell phones with a cell phone connection but yet we can't use them as a cell phone? it is not a lack of techIt is odd, at least from and engineering perspective. MPPT controllers can take >500V DC and directly charge a 48V LFP battery, why can't one directly charge a 400V LFP battery in a car? Obviously an engineer could build an MPPT that does, but no one has. Well, a couple hobbyists have, but nothing you can buy off the shelf.
Even weirder, almost every EV (except Tesla in the US) supports HVDC charging standards. Just add a CCS1 plug and protocols in Europe, CCS2 in the US and GB/T or whatever it's called in China and you can directly charge ~15m EVs today plus another ~10m that'll be sold in the next 12 months. Seems like a huge market, right?
I think the problem is few people want to buy a bunch of solar panels and use them only to charge an EV. So the typical system will have an inverter to power appliances and such. And if you have an inverter anyway, just plug your EV into a 120V or 240V AC outlet. Sure, it's less efficient. But it's easy and cheap.
I can get it down very low if I actually try, Ive seen sub 200wh/mile in the city. I was a hypermiler back in the day. Today, solar=free fuel for me. I don't mind going a little faster.most of the telsa drivers i see/know drive like they are in an ICE. i can get my leaf down to 225 Wh/mile but then again i started driving electric 18 years ago on my home built cars/bikes that had very limited range
I believe the Level 3 Tesla supercharger are DCFC but at probably 400VDC or something.Ok. Thanks. Seems a little odd that direct from controller to car isn’t an option. I thought DC-DC was easier/simpler.
Would I need batteries if the charging were exclusively done on sunny days during peak solar hours. E.g. Texas or Arizona? Well, other than a small battery to keep the inverter happy?
That would be panels, mppt, 240 volt inverter, single rack battery, charger. Right?
Yea I can see that.The issue most people run into is vehicle and panels you own at the same place during daylight hours...
While solar charged DC batteries to EV batteries isn't ideal, it's surprisingly efficient when compared to grid losses overall.
You do indirectly pay for grid losses... Your meter costs cover the losses.
If you research batteries, some work better than others for quick discharge to charge that EV. It's the time frame for quick charge that trips you up.
Battery to battery, you could have all night to do the charge, but that's not guaranteed.
If you research chargers, you find out how much power you actually need to do the job quickly, and like I wrote before, your EV and panels have to be in the same place during peak sun hours.
There ARE direct from panels to EV chargers, but again, charge time is the hangup. Having a field full of panels to do direct fast charge isn't economically feasible.
Right now, with current panel efficiency, and average home consumption, you need about 4X the square footage of living area and a crap load of batteries for no sunlight hours.
Some slide by without this (like me), but my consumption is way less than the 'Average' household. I manage my consumption, and I still need more panels than the square footage of my home...
Yea I can see that.
My boss offers free charging, too.
Not that much of a perk, since I am self employed. lol