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What do you know about Composting?

We're starting to store our kitchen waste in baggies in the freezer, that way we only mess with it every few days. Freezing does two things, first no smell issues. Secondly, theoretically, cell walls should get broken up by jagged ice crystals allowing them to decompose faster. We'll see how it works.
 
We're starting to store our kitchen waste in baggies in the freezer, that way we only mess with it every few days. Freezing does two things, first no smell issues. Secondly, theoretically, cell walls should get broken up by jagged ice crystals allowing them to decompose faster. We'll see how it works.

But why store it? Mix with sawdust and stick it in a composter outside.. Freezing will help it break down, but I doubt its worth the effort.. Just seems like an extra step that isn't needed unless you have some special circumstances that prevent you from just putting it in a composter immediately.

By far, the biggest thing you can do to speed up composting is to chop the food into the smallest pieces practical and mix with browns.. Huge advantage, but also not necessary. Anything smaller than a D cell battery will compost in a big hurry if the compost is mixed up regularly.
 
My biggest issue with composting at home is attracting pests. Unfortunately, our neighbours have a very, erm 'messy' home and garden...they also keep lots of animals.

So far, the pests (rats) stay mostly on their land because lots of places to hide and food. But I know if I start composting they will be straight over.

What I do do is compost my grass cuttings. If you just do them as grass it turns to sludge, which smells. But if you mix it about 50/50 with dry material (cardboard) which makes it good as compost.
 
My biggest issue with composting at home is attracting pests. Unfortunately, our neighbours have a very, erm 'messy' home and garden...they also keep lots of animals.

So far, the pests (rats) stay mostly on their land because lots of places to hide and food. But I know if I start composting they will be straight over.

What I do do is compost my grass cuttings. If you just do them as grass it turns to sludge, which smells. But if you mix it about 50/50 with dry material (cardboard) which makes it good as compost.
Grass is nitrogen, cardboard is carbon. You need a mix of the green's and browns to get the right bacteria going.

Sawdust makes for a really good carbon addition.. wood ash too, but be careful to not add too much. Throw in some stick and twigs as well.
 

Grinding the Hard Stuff?​

How do you all deal with hard things like corncobs? Do you have a grinder/mulcher (if so, please say more), not put them in, or just let them keep going and going and going.

Electric composters​

Most of these types of machines just dehydrate kitchen scraps and are not doing any real composting. But 3 models use microbes, which makes me think there's some sort of composting going on (I forget if it's the Geme or Reencle, but they point to a paper for composting on Mars ; -). Don't know anything about them, but here they are if you haven't seen them:
 

Grinding the Hard Stuff?​

How do you all deal with hard things like corncobs? Do you have a grinder/mulcher (if so, please say more), not put them in, or just let them keep going and going and going.

Snap them in half or into thirds.. they will break down pretty quickly.
Cut watermelon rinds, pineapple skins, etc into golf ball sized chunks. you don't have to, but it helps.

When it comes to corn cobs, the only time you might run into a problem is if you shelled the corn without cooking the cob.. in which case you want to cut it into smaller pieces.. But if the cob is BBQ'd, boiled, or baked in an oven, then no worries.

Electric composters​

Most of these types of machines just dehydrate kitchen scraps and are not doing any real composting. But 3 models use microbes, which makes me think there's some sort of composting going on (I forget if it's the Geme or Reencle, but they point to a paper for composting on Mars ; -). Don't know anything about them, but here they are if you haven't seen them:
They are all gimmicks. Perfect compost needs three things.. Nitrogen, carbon, and movement. Get the greens-to-browns ratio even remotely close and turn the compost every week or two and it will work great. The closer you get the green/brown ratio, and the more you turn it, the faster it works.
 
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This is what we have in the backyard. Anything organic from the kitchen goes in there and makes decent top soil. The only issue is that this process works pretty much only in summer.
 
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Cooking Oil on Compost?

.... if your compost can reach compost standards provided by the United States Department of Agriculture (over 55°C (131°F) Fahrenheit for 3 days), adding cooking oil to the compost heap will be effective...
Anyone ever hear of this or try it? Supposedly also reduces ammonia and increases nitrogen in the compost.
 
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Snap them in half or into thirds.. they will break down pretty quickly.
Cut watermelon rinds, pineapple skins, etc into golf ball sized chunks. you don't have to, but it helps.
Thanks!

They are all gimmicks....
I think most are. Not sure about the three listed as they use microbial action, but I want to believe. From the Renecle page:

Reencle is NOT a Dehydrator NOR a Grinder

Reencle operates on totally different and unique mechnism using microbial technology(ReencleMicrobe™) which makes it neither a dehydrator nor a grinder, such as as Nagual, Lomi and Vitamix. The rest of the composters releasesd in the market like Lomi, Nagual, Vitamix are similar to a dehydrator and use high temperature to reduce the volume of food waste.
 
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I think most are. Not sure about the three listed as they use microbial action, but I want to believe. From the Renecle page:

Reencle is NOT a Dehydrator NOR a Grinder

Reencle operates on totally different and unique mechnism using microbial technology(ReencleMicrobe™) which makes it neither a dehydrator nor a grinder, such as as Nagual, Lomi and Vitamix. The rest of the composters releasesd in the market like Lomi, Nagual, Vitamix are similar to a dehydrator and use high temperature to reduce the volume of food waste.

All composters use microbes.

This is a composter:
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I use a round ecomposter at camp, the idea being more surface gets sun contact. But their construction was designed for lighter yard waste so I can't use the rollers so I leave mine on the ground and just roll it about now and then. I never empty it out completely as to leave some material to help start next years cycle.
 
I use a round ecomposter at camp, the idea being more surface gets sun contact. But their construction was designed for lighter yard waste so I can't use the rollers so I leave mine on the ground and just roll it about now and then. I never empty it out completely as to leave some material to help start next years cycle.
You don't have to do leave stuff in there to get the next batch going.. the entire inside surface is teaming with the bacteria.. way way more than enough to get it going.
 
You don't have to do leave stuff in there to get the next batch going.. the entire inside surface is teaming with the bacteria.. way way more than enough to get it going.
True, but this round contraption has about 2 dozen hollow 6" spikes inside for vents so getting most of it out with a shovel without breaking them is fine.
 
Grass clippings are all greens and won't compost correctly.. Some clippings are fine, but you need an equal amount of carbon (browns) or the process doesn't work.

Greens are easy to find.. food, grass, etc. its the damn browns that are difficult. Sawdust is the best.. wood ash works good.. throw in some sticks and twigs to help break apart clumps. You need a 50/50 mix or it doesn't work and can start to stink.

Greens are waste products.. but you have to work to find the browns.. My table saw has a box below it that collects the saw dust.. I save that stuff when cutting clean lumber that isn't pressure treated.

News papers make great browns too.. just make sure its the dull paper type, not the shiny wax coated advertisements.

To much brown and nothing happens (not so bad), but too much green and it turns to mush and smells horrible.

A composter that is properly balanced, or even roughly close to being properly balanced, won't smell.. The problem is people think they can just throw in the food and it will break down into rich soil.. but the reality is that it will just stink like a garbage can.

If you find too much moisture, add cardboard or leave the top open so it evaporates on a hot day.. if you have too many browns, you can pee in a bucket and dump it in.. Urine is loaded with nitrogen.. or just dump in some grass clippings if you want to avoid the yuk factor.

Make sure to rotate once a week.. a good two or three turns to spread around oxygen. If you don't, it can go anaerobic and stink.
so Murph, tossing in ashes from a wood stove would help?
 
so Murph, tossing in ashes from a wood stove would help?
I tried that.. They didn't seem to do what I had expected they'd do.

It is possible that since the ashes are basically almost a pure carbon, that I used too much, or maybe the pH of the ashes is so high it has a harmful effect? All I can say is I tried it and it didn't work the way I expected.

If you mix water with wood ash, you make caustic soda.. Potassium Hydroxide to be exact.. That's how they harvested lye to make soap back in the old days.. its nasty stuff because the pH is so high.

I also made charcoal with a retort and it seemed to do a great job.

Sawdust is still king...
 
I'm pretty sure ashes contain virtually no carbon. Any carbon present would have combusted. Ashes are mostly the minerals that can't burn.
 
I'm pretty sure ashes contain virtually no carbon. Any carbon present would have combusted. Ashes are mostly the minerals that can't burn.
You might be correct.. my chemistry sucks... That might explain why they didn't work the way I had thought they would...
 
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