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Received my 6000xp today, quickly hooked it up to a small battery bank to test it, limited charging and discharge amps for small battery and a few other tweaks. Connected load to a L14-30 plug (pulling abolute max 1800w) which then I use a generator cable to plug right into my Reliance Transfer switch (yes N/G bond disabled in inverter). Really happy so far with this purchase. Good quality and easy to setup and use. Getting it online and running with both iPhone app and web site took only a few minutes. Running in voltage mode so need to figure out what some of the discharge values are such as Discharge Cutoff Voltage and On Grid EOD Voltage Also upgraded to what I think is the latest firmware: ccaa-170B66.

More to come, this will be moving out of my home garage to my cabin for the full build out where this a critical loads panel.
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Yes, the Reliance fitment will be fixed....I paid a guy to install this 7 years ago before my dive into solar for a generator input. Needless to say he did a shit job for a lot of money that I now know I can do myself.
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ChrisG said:
Received my 6000xp today, quickly hooked it up to a small battery bank to test it, limited charging and discharge amps for small battery and a few other tweaks. Connected load to a L14-30 plug (pulling abolute max 1800w) which then I use a generator cable to plug right into my Reliance Transfer switch (yes N/G bond disabled in inverter). Really happy so far with this purchase. Good quality and easy to setup and use. Getting it online and running with both iPhone app and web site took only a few minutes. Running in voltage mode so need to figure out what some of the discharge values are such as Discharge Cutoff Voltage and On Grid EOD Voltage Also upgraded to what I think is the latest firmware: ccaa-170B66.

More to come, this will be moving out of my home garage to my cabin for the full build out where this a critical loads panel.
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Yes, the Reliance fitment will be fixed....I paid a guy to install this 7 years ago before my dive into solar for a generator input. Needless to say he did a shit job for a lot of money that I now know I can do myself.
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I use the on-grid EOD setting in conjunction with turning on the battery ECO mode. When the batteries get down to the threshold you set, the inverter switches to bypass mode and only charges the batteries with solar until the batteries charge up about 10% higher. I like that rather than having it charge batteries with grid power if they get low. At last that way you’re only using as much grid power as your loads require.
 
AZ Solar Junkie said:
I use the on-grid EOD setting in conjunction with turning on the battery ECO mode. When the batteries get down to the threshold you set, the inverter switches to bypass mode and only charges the batteries with solar until the batteries charge up about 10% higher. I like that rather than having it charge batteries with grid power if they get low. At last that way you’re only using as much grid power as your loads require.
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agree with you fully.

I use the Chargeverter (by grid) to float the battery at 43v and wait for the sun to come out the next day to do heavy solar charging

uses much less grid power to float than to charge the battery to full directly. If a long stretch of cloudy/stormy weather I will catch the battery at near full and float there by grid
 
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dougbert said:
agree with you fully.

I use the Chargeverter to float the battery at 43v and wait for the sun to come out the next day to do heavy solar charging
uses much less grid power to float than to charge the battery directly. If a long stretch of cloudy/stormy weather I will catch the battery at near full and float there by grid
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Except doing that aren’t you using more grid power than your loads are using by using grid power through the chargeverter to convert AC to DC to maintain the batteries/provide power to the inverter and then the inverter is turning that DC back to AC to power your loads. Seems like you are pulling more grid power than your loads are using that way…
 
AZ Solar Junkie said:
Except doing that aren’t you using more grid power than your loads are using by using grid power through the chargeverter to convert AC to DC to maintain the batteries/provide power to the inverter and then the inverter is turning that DC back to AC to power your loads. Seems like you are pulling more grid power than your loads are using that way…
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maybe a bit, but it is acceptable to me to charge out-of-band instead of dealing with grid connection issues on the XW Pro. I do not do netmetering. Grid breaker to inverter is OFF almost all the time. I run in OFF GRID mode as my main model of operation. The XW Pro does things different than my last inverter Xantrex SW+5048 whose operation I loved
 
Still missing something on AC Charge and Discharge settings for voltage. Don't have solar connected to this now, will be moving this to my cabin eventually. Just running on Grid and Battery with voltage settings. Goal for this week for testing will be to charge up to 55.2 for balancing to work and discharge to 49v to restart charge again. Unsure how to get this to work based on the language in the manual.
 
AZ Solar Junkie said:
I use the on-grid EOD setting in conjunction with turning on the battery ECO mode. When the batteries get down to the threshold you set, the inverter switches to bypass mode and only charges the batteries with solar until the batteries charge up about 10% higher. I like that rather than having it charge batteries with grid power if they get low. At last that way you’re only using as much grid power as your loads require.
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These are the setup/configuration details that I like to read about since I know little about programming these things.

I assume that "grid EOD" is the end of discharge while on grid, where the XP stops drawing from the batteries and is usually set at around 20%?
Then when the XP goes into bypass, ECO mode allows the grid to charge the batts to 30% or so until PV takes over to charge the batts to full?
 
Onehand said:
These are the setup/configuration details that I like to read about since I know little about programming these things.

I assume that "grid EOD" is the end of discharge while on grid, where the XP stops drawing from the batteries and is usually set at around 20%?
Then when the XP goes into bypass, ECO mode allows the grid to charge the batts to 30% or so until PV takes over to charge the batts to full?
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Yes, exactly right
 
ChrisG said:
Still missing something on AC Charge and Discharge settings for voltage. Don't have solar connected to this now, will be moving this to my cabin eventually. Just running on Grid and Battery with voltage settings. Goal for this week for testing will be to charge up to 55.2 for balancing to work and discharge to 49v to restart charge again. Unsure how to get this to work based on the language in the manual.
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Wouldn’t that be as simple as using those values for the AC start and stop thresholds?
 
AZ Solar Junkie said:
Wouldn’t that be as simple as using those values for the AC start and stop thresholds?
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LOL maybe, one would think. Unit is solid, really like it. Just need to figure this terminology out and how these settings are interconnected. Also, my user ID is not setup as an installer, just end user so I can't see other settings it seems. Have to call Current Connected tomorrow and see what's up.
 
ChrisG said:
Running in voltage mode so need to figure out what some of the discharge values are such as Discharge Cutoff Voltage and On Grid EOD Voltage
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Battery warning voltage will be the voltage at which inverter will just send a battery low notification in the app.
On grid cutoff refers to voltage at which you want grid to take over.
If there's no grid, inverter will stop EPS output below Discharge cutoff voltage.

ChrisG said:
Also, my user ID is not setup as an installer, just end user so I can't see other settings it seems. Have to call Current Connected tomorrow and see what's up.
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Just use dongle hotspot.

Search for WiFi, there should be one with the dongle name.
Connect to it, then sign out in the app -> select Local Connect -> TCP connect.
That exposes significantly more settings.
 

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shvm said:
Battery warning voltage will be the voltage at which inverter will just send a battery low notification in the app.
On grid cutoff refers to voltage at which you want grid to take over.
If there's no grid, inverter will stop EPS output below Discharge cutoff voltage.


Just use dongle hotspot.

Search for WiFi, there should be one with the dongle name.
Connect to it, then sign out in the app -> select Local Connect -> TCP connect.
That exposes significantly more settings.
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Thanks for the info. Want to get conformable with voltage settings will then be moving to the esphome-jk-can test. Have everything ready to go.
 
Onehand said:
I assume that "grid EOD" is the end of discharge while on grid, where the XP stops drawing from the batteries and is usually set at around 20%?
Then when the XP goes into bypass, ECO mode allows the grid to charge the batts to 30% or so until PV takes over to charge the batts to full?
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You're close on this, but a little off. I'm surprised @AZ Solar Junkie didn't catch it since I learned this from him.

On Grid EOD % tells the XP to go into bypass, to stop pulling from the batteries, and transfer loads to Grid (if connected) - this you have correct. However when in bypass mode with ECO enabled it will NOT draw from the grid to charge the batts. Only solar will charge the batts when it's in bypass. It will stay in bypass mode until the batts add +10%. The whole time solar never stops charging the batts.

Also one thing I've noticed confusing is that if you have it set to 20% it won't actually transfer until it gets PAST your setting. So it actually happens at 19%. It will also transfer out of bypass when it gets PAST your setting +10%, so 30%. But if it transfers & you change the setting to 80% because you want solar to get you well charged then it will stay in bypass till it hits 91%.
So don't let that confuse you. It's your setting - 1, if you want to look at it that way.

I will say that the transfer is very fast, appliances, lights, and computers won't even know it happened. You probably won't either.
 
Thanks for all the info and getting this setup. Still running in voltage mode till I figure this out. Want to make sure I know the plan B.

One thing I can’t change is equalization to 0. Keeps saying setting fails and can’t find this setting on the LCD. Any ideas?
 
Tripplett said:
You're close on this, but a little off. I'm surprised @AZ Solar Junkie didn't catch it since I learned this from him.

On Grid EOD % tells the XP to go into bypass, to stop pulling from the batteries, and transfer loads to Grid (if connected) - this you have correct. However when in bypass mode with ECO enabled it will NOT draw from the grid to charge the batts. Only solar will charge the batts when it's in bypass. It will stay in bypass mode until the batts add +10%. The whole time solar never stops charging the batts.

Also one thing I've noticed confusing is that if you have it set to 20% it won't actually transfer until it gets PAST your setting. So it actually happens at 19%. It will also transfer out of bypass when it gets PAST your setting +10%, so 30%. But if it transfers & you change the setting to 80% because you want solar to get you well charged then it will stay in bypass till it hits 91%.
So don't let that confuse you. It's your setting - 1, if you want to look at it that way.

I will say that the transfer is very fast, appliances, lights, and computers won't even know it happened. You probably won't either.
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Thanks for that. Like all programming on these things, I have to read it 3 times to get it! Lotsa of nooks and crannies in these things, allot of copy and paste for future clarification...
 
ChrisG said:
Thanks for all the info and getting this setup. Still running in voltage mode till I figure this out. Want to make sure I know the plan B.

One thing I can’t change is equalization to 0. Keeps saying setting fails and can’t find this setting on the LCD. Any ideas?
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Yeah I noticed that too. If you set the equalization time to zero though then the equalization voltage setting doesn’t really matter eh.
 
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