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    How much power does an Inverter use just sitting there idling?

    I haven't opened it up but it's lightweight definitely not heavy enough to have a 6.5kw transformer. My main argument to them is why don't they state the power factor under no load? With these smart meters they have installed in the US now I'm wondering if they are better at charging the...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    This one definitely doesn't have any power saving mode option. The explanation the seller provided was that the power factor at idle is .08 causing the 2amp load on the amp meter which is actually only less than 50w of power consumption.
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    How much power does an Inverter use just sitting there idling?

    So I got this response and image from the seller. I'm not sure if I should believe it. They show a much more sophisticated device and explained that the power factor is .08 under no load. I'm not sure if that believable.. I did find the manual references power factor at greater than .99.
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    How much power does an Inverter use just sitting there idling?

    Interesting I didn't know that mine is cooper and hunter. It's really efficient most of the time is pulling 2-4 amps on 240v. It's a 24000 but unit. I'm going to hook the inverter back up and see what the meter registers.
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    How much power does an Inverter use just sitting there idling?

    I understood all the way up to this comment. "If I'm going to feed a typical transformer from an inverter, I like to apply 120Vrms to 240V windings. It is much closer to ideal that way. Fed by grid, don't worry about it." I'm not understanding how this is relevant? I'm feeding a 240 v mini...
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    How much power does an Inverter use just sitting there idling?

    Wow that's an amazing explanation that's well over my head. I will however look into it more to try to learn the detailed explanation you went through. This is a 220v setup with no neutral. Therefore no split phase. The black wire and white wire are the ones feeding the line into the inverter. I...
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    How much power does an Inverter use just sitting there idling?

    The whole thing is sketchy because I'm sketchy!!;)
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    How much power does an Inverter use just sitting there idling?

    I was reading this thread and it's very helpful. I'm in the same situation we're I get a 2+ amp load in the ac input circuit with no load on the inverter and no battery. What is reactive load? If I measure 2amps on the clamp on meter isn't it consumption 2 amps and my meter registers it?
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Thanks 👍 so what's the 2w mentioned in the manual ? Is standby power the power it consumes when connected to power and the button on the side is off? I found in another part of the manual it states less than 50wwith no load see attached. On another thread in this forum a guy with a similar...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    So this is the new inverter. I got a chance to hook it up to the main panel and I have a question. While It was running I accidentally disconnected the battery and it threw a fault code. Since that point on wards it shows there's a load hooked up to it and pulls a little over 2 amps on the 240v...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Thanks that's appreciated. I'm going to see how it goes. My main reason is the lowest cost split phase is well over 1,300 which is a bit much at this time
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Understood. This one does 50hz or 60 hz. The minisplit doesnt need a neutral just 240v and ground. So the goal is to dedicate the inverter to mini split loads or new 220v single phase loads.
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Sorry it was alot for one post. Yes this I can add the product link for the inverter but some forums ban members for that soni didn't want to risk it. But this is the manual and product info. https://powmr.com/products/6500w-220vac-24vdc-hybrid-inverter-charger Yes I'm in the US my typical...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    My main load will be 230v which is a mini split. It consumes max 2300w. So the plan is dedicate the solar panels and inverter to that load. My second largest constant load is the refrigerator so I was thinking of doing a smaller solar array with one of these grid tie micro inverters for the...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    I was trying to explain how the refund went on the initial inverter and the new stuff I bought.
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Update! I got the full refund on the 10,000 w split phase inverter but they kept 150 for "restocking" I got a killer deal on a single phase 220-240v 6.5kw 48v for $342 bucks including shipping. I also bought 6 new 360w Trina mono crystalline panels for 600 bucks.. Measures them with the...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Thay was the worse one of the bunch. I actually thought of that and removed all the diodes so that's the value with no diodes. Literally junk. I'll see if anyone wants these to build a fence or a roof for a shed.
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    I got them from a guy that sells new used and cracked. They are actually going to credit me the full amount and I'm going to use it towards the money needed to buy the new ones. What's Santan?
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Panels are the issue I got ripped off
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Honestly never thought it would make such a drastic impact. Live an learn
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Very funny, yes new uncracked!!!
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Nice I get it tommorow and I'll post pics of the results. I can get new Trina panel or Zn shine 360w for 95 each. Are those any good ?
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    So the handheld tester mimics the mppt to get an actual value of power output in watts?
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Awesome thanks, I ordered the tester and checking out some new panels to buy. I'll post their info for guidance. I think I'll get this right the second time around!
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    So those testers have more technology than the clamp on amp meter and voltage tester? It can actually confirm the true power out of each panel?
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Yes the deal i got was on cracked panels. My dumb mistake I guess to think that voltage and the current confirmed watt output. I am still going to return the inverter because it was nearly $1800 and I will never need 10k output.
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Thanks for your patience! I'll start looking for some new panels and hopefully I'll have better luck. Any guides on here on the best value on inverter for Approx 240v 3000watt ?
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Thanks, it's not white sand on the panels is the cracked glass. It may appear as sand but is the cracks. I will give your troubleshooting tips a shot and I'll start looking for a new set of panels. For now I'm going to slow things down and try to get my $1800 back on this inverter since...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Understood the point I was trying to make with the amps is that the inverter doesn't pull the amps I register as short circuit current at the PV input cables even under full load. For example If I take both cables that I would feed from the PV into the inverter and check the shortcircuit...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    I understand the battery load and the loads connected to the inverter need to be greater than the PV array. What I'm trying to communicate is that the inverter will not pull the full capacity the panels can produce even when the load exceeds the PV array production. Here is the logic under full...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    It always pulls from the battery. The power from the PV array drops when the battery starts to hit the low voltage threshold and then it pulls from the grid. I need to look at batteryless options than can pull the watts I'm generating
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Yes my space is limited so i laid them flat in an effort to keep consistency. They are free of debris. As far as shading potential I've minimized it within my abilities as you can see full sun exposure on all panels. I have tried each string individually and yes even with a fully charged...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    My apologies I meant to answer it. Yes each of the series strings were measured. Each string puts out close to 300v and 6.2 amps. If I'm checking total Voc of the series strings and Isc of the entire string what other test can i do? I am kinda poor but if I need to buy a special device to...
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    First 3kw DIY solar with PowMr split phase inverter10kw

    Yes I just laid them all flat and I checked there was no shade. I was running in "Sol" mode which is solar priority with utility backup. I just don't see this inverter pulling anywhere beyond 50% of the short circuit current the PC array makes.

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