SRNE 12kW IP65 HES and 10kW ASP

[42OhmsPA]

5-6 edit. Ordered 2 ASP
7-26 edit. Parallel ASP thread.
Edit ASP is the parallel version of the ASF.

I'm waiting for pricing and more details on the HES. I think this is it.

IP65 HES Series 8KW 10KW 12KW Hybrid Solar Inverter 500Vdc

srneinverter.com

The split phase parallel version of the ASF 10kW is available too, waiting for a quote on 2 of them.

Lots of new offerings coming to market, it's going to be a fun year. Decisions decisions...

1 have 0 affiliation with SRNE besides being a happy customer that feels they make Some Really Nice Equipment.

I paid ~$1400 delivered for my original (non parallel) ASF last year. There is a pile of additional info in my thread.

 

[1201]

Oh that's interesting!

I tried to find the manual but wasn't able to locate it

 

[42OhmsPA]

Oh that's interesting!

I tried to find the manual but wasn't able to locate it

I'll share it when I get it.

The 12kW has me interested but I don't need the fancy features some do.

I'll probably be the test dummy for parallel ASF's, under $3k for 20kW AC output, 22kW solar with four 500V 22A MPPTs and 400A charging. Seems like an easy decision.

 

[Mattb4]

I see looking through their offerings that they no longer have a 24vDC 3kW model (low or high PV) listed. Too bad that. I would have liked to seen some more offerings for those of us that run 24vDC battery setups.

I expect that some of the new listed models likely will be hard to get if at all. I never did see a 8kW for sale in the ASF series though they claim one.

 

[Mahendra Gomanie]

Nice

 

[G00SE]

Have they provided prices for the parallel ASF yet

 

[G00SE]

 

[42OhmsPA]

I see looking through their offerings that they no longer have a 24vDC 3kW model (low or high PV) listed. Too bad that. I would have liked to seen some more offerings for those of us that run 24vDC battery setups.

It's still there.
https://www.srnesolar.com/productdetail/Off-Grid-Inverters-HF.html you have to scroll through the options, site is a little confusing.
100V PV
500V PV

I expect that some of the new listed models likely will be hard to get if at all. I never did see a 8kW for sale in the ASF series though they claim one.

I found it easiest to find the model number you want on the website and send it to them in a chat requesting a copy of the owners manual and a DDP quote.
This will get you to the 8kW.

Have they provided prices for the parallel ASF yet

From earlier this month.
I'm betting / hoping around 1400 DDP.

 

[gotbeans]

Is that related to this one? https://diysolarforum.com/threads/calpha-11kpv-10k-inverter-1700.80310/

but you say the one in OP can be paralleled?

 

[42OhmsPA]

Is that related to this one? https://diysolarforum.com/threads/calpha-11kpv-10k-inverter-1700.80310/

I'm betting it's a relabel.

but you say the one in OP can be paralleled?

Correct. There are 2 versions, the original that can't be paralleled and the version with that can. I think technically the ASP is the parallel and ASF is non.

 

[gotbeans]

cool, there are some video reviews of the calpha one from only a few weeks ago so it seems brand new. makes sense SRNE has the same one around the same time

having a parallel option really makes it badass

 

[Steve777]

Interesting. Their spec sheet does not mention any UL certs. Wonder if they are going to get any of those....

 

[42OhmsPA]

Interesting. Their spec sheet does not mention any UL certs. Wonder if they are going to get any of those....

According to the sales agent the 12kW will be UL listed. I'll update the thread when I get a reply.

 

[Brucey]

I'll share it when I get it.

The 12kW has me interested but I don't need the fancy features some do.

I'll probably be the test dummy for parallel ASF's, under $3k for 20kW AC output, 22kW solar with four 500V 22A MPPTs and 400A charging. Seems like an easy decision.

That's crazy bang for buck. How is the idle consumption and fan noise would be my questions.

 

[42OhmsPA]

That's crazy bang for buck. How is the idle consumption and fan noise would be my questions.

I will ask that as well, I'm not sure on the 12kW.

I've clamped my current ASF ~100w.
Fan noise isn't terrible when it's bringing in 10+kW PV. I'd say a little louder than a box fan or hairdryer on high but at a much lower pitch than a hairdryer. They don't ramp up to bad until you get above 6kW load or solar.

 

[gotbeans]

If you're doing the 20% rule that's 340 volts and 18 amps max, so like 2x 9 panel arrays per mppt?
What panels you using for yours?

 

[42OhmsPA]

MPPT 1 is 7S2P 370W NE Solar. I'm frequently clipping at 22A. I've seen the MPPT max out at 5500W numerous times over the winter.
MPPT2 is 9S2P 315W Q Cells. They are roof mounted but I've had cloud edging max them out as well.
Screenshot from my ASF earlier this month.

If you're doing the 20% rule that's 340 volts and 18 amps max, so like 2x 9 panel arrays per mppt?
What panels you using for yours?

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[gotbeans]

MPPT 1 is 7S2P 370W NE Solar. I'm frequently clipping at 22A. I've seen the MPPT max out at 5500W numerous times over the winter.
MPPT2 is 9S2P 315W Q Cells. They are roof mounted but I've had cloud edging max them out as well.
Screenshot from my ASF earlier this month.
View attachment 205951

ah ok so over amp isn't a concern with this one cuz it won't draw more
saw some mixed posts about different inverters..
nice maxing out your solar, better run some more equipment

Screenshot from my ASF earlier this month.

they supply SA? or that's just the info on your SA software?

Yea if these parallel ones are good I might go there instead of a 6000XP, I have 2x 3000EHV-48 now but they can be turned off and just used as charge controllers / backup

It's still there.
https://www.srnesolar.com/productdetail/Off-Grid-Inverters-HF.html you have to scroll through the options, site is a little confusing.
100V PV
500V PV

I found it easiest to find the model number you want on the website and send it to them in a chat requesting a copy of the owners manual and a DDP quote.
This will get you to the 8kW.


From earlier this month.
I'm betting / hoping around 1400 DDP.
View attachment 205850

So that's for the "ASP"so it isn't available yet, they mean middle of april maybe?

 

[42OhmsPA]

ah ok so over amp isn't a concern with this one cuz it won't draw more
saw some mixed posts about different inverters..
nice maxing out your solar, better run some more equipment

As long as you don't go over max voltage you should be fine with any inverter.
I've done pretty good running loads this month but definitely lose out on a lot days I'm working.

Edit to add I also have a Victron 100/20 with 2 of the NE panels and the battery discharge isn't 100% accurate because the JBDs don't read low current great with 3 in parallel. I've been open loop for ~3.75 mWh solar with 0 major issues.

they supply SA? or that's just the info on your SA software?

Info from my SA. It came with a wifi dongle that's still in the box somewhere, I have no intentions of letting it phone home to china. I haven't done any firmware updates either.

Yea if these parallel ones are good I might go there instead of a 6000XP, I have 2x 3000EHV-48 now but they can be turned off and just used as charge controllers / backup

I considered the 6000XP but was already overloading my 6kw TP6048. I did a fair amount of homework before I purchased the SRNE, they have been around a bit longer than Luxpower and didn't find much, if any, bad feedback which is alot easier to find than good.
In my opinion either one are solid options but you get more bang for your buck with the SRNE.

 

[gotbeans]

As long as you don't go over max voltage you should be fine with any inverter.

Yea I saw someone talking about going over max amps as if it acted like an induction motor without a controller or something

I've done pretty good running loads this month but definitely lose out on a lot days I'm working.

oh yea nice, I've got some of my computers & server rack doing heavier data crunching when my batteries get topped off and sun is available.
Sadly they're too power efficient and they only use like 900 watts all together
I need some mini splits to set to 50 degrees to keep it cool when it's hot

Info from my SA. It came with a wifi dongle that's still in the box somewhere, I have no intentions of letting it phone home to china. I haven't done any firmware updates either.

why not? maybe they'll see your usage and send you another one free so you don't go so far over max :^)

I considered the 6000XP but was already overloading my 6kw TP6048. I did a fair amount of homework before I purchased the SRNE, they have been around a bit longer than Luxpower and didn't find much, if any, bad feedback which is alot easier to find than good.
In my opinion either one are solid options but you get more bang for your buck with the SRNE.

Yea like I said in my other thread it was a real killer that it wasn't parallel.. but now that they're actually doing a parallel one I definitely have it on my list (assuming there isn't something insanely wrong with it)

I gotta get the parallel ones because I have a lot of space to grow so I want to be able to

 

[42OhmsPA]

why not? maybe they'll see your usage and send you another one free so you don't go so far over max :^)

Lol, I have no interest in free stuff like that. Heck I was offered another really popular unit here for a significant discount and passed it up...
I don't want to be biased in my opinions of products and feel like if I were getting free or at a discount I would be...
When I spend my money I'll be the first to complain if something is wrong.

Yea like I said in my other thread it was a real killer that it wasn't parallel.. but now that they're actually doing a parallel one I definitely have it on my list (assuming there isn't something insanely wrong with it)

I gotta get the parallel ones because I have a lot of space to grow so I want to be able to

Understood. I'm leaning towards the parallel but still have the thought of buying another original and wiring it to a different panel. The parallel would be a lot easier...

 

[gotbeans]

Lol, I have no interest in free stuff like that. Heck I was offered another really popular unit here for a significant discount and passed it up...
I don't want to be biased in my opinions of products and feel like if I were getting free or at a discount I would be...
When I spend my money I'll be the first to complain if something is wrong.

when I get stuff for free it's even cheaper junk in my eyes! easier to rate it worse lmao

Understood. I'm leaning towards the parallel but still have the thought of buying another original and wiring it to a different panel. The parallel would be a lot easier...

Does your non parallel work as a charge controller when the inverter is off?
if so you can just keep your arrays hooked up and then just get the parallel ones and add more panels

 

[42OhmsPA]

when I get stuff for free it's even cheaper junk in my eyes! easier to rate it worse lmao

Never thought about it that way.

Does your non parallel work as a charge controller when the inverter is off?
if so you can just keep your arrays hooked up and then just get the parallel ones and add more panels

Yes. I actually never thought of that, thank you. I was going to use the TP6048 hanging on the wall unused as another charge controller and to run dump loads but the SRNE would make more sense. I could pull another feed from the ground mount and split it to separate MPPTs so I'm not clipping, every bit of production counts in the winter.

 

[gotbeans]

Never thought about it that way.

Yes. I actually never thought of that, thank you. I was going to use the TP6048 hanging on the wall unused as another charge controller and to run dump loads but the SRNE would make more sense. I could pull another feed from the ground mount and split it to separate MPPTs so I'm not clipping, every bit of production counts in the winter.

I have two 3000watt yellow EG4 ones but one has been off for months. It kicks on every morning and blasts 2500 watts of solar into the batteries then turns off at night (inverter is off)

I have it cuz I have some 240volt things, however I don't use those that much so I just leave it off.
Eventually I'll get some 240v minisplits so I'll need it on 24/7 but until then that is how I've used it, for months, and it has worked great

so that leads me to thinking I'll leave these two how they are and just get some other inverter in the future here when I need more watts and just leave them as battery power

I've also noticed that the one running reads the battery voltage 0.1 - 0.2 lower than the other one not running so when the one running draws higher current it is drawing from the second inverter, not the batteries. So the batteries are untouched even if it uses more watts than available from it's solar array. It'll use the other AIO's solar array basically (confirmed watching the BMS and the inverters and all that)

So yea I definitely recommend doing it. It seems really nice way to at least use what you already bought.
The only downside is if you pull more watts than what your inverter can supply, then maybe you'd want as you say your other inverter also running lol but IMO it's easier than making an entire other breaker box and all that other crap

now IDK if all inverter/charge controller AIO things can do that, but it seems many of them can with the "inverter" part turned off
All you do at that point is set their charge / float voltage and you are good to go I guess.
Then you can have a bunch of separate arrays.
My current ones are laying on the ground but for this new SRNE (or the 6000XP but I lean more toward the SRNE now that it has parallel) I will get some better panels like the ones you have, 300-400 watts and then put those in better locations.
My current ones are with some $35 used 250 watt panels

 

[OffGridForGood]

According to the sales agent the 12kW will be UL listed. I'll update the thread when I get a reply.

Following along!
Checks a lot of my boxes (parallel, 12kW output, 500vDC MPP input, not $5,000 each)

According to the sales agent the 12kW will be UL listed.

Very nice,

From earlier this month.
I'm betting / hoping around 1400 DDP.

Me Too!

The 12kW has me interested but I don't need the fancy features some do.

I don't need a lot of bells either, these are looking interesting.
A pair of parallel 12kWp would take me to the next level, and if the price is right, I may be in.
These high voltage multiple MPP inputs would remove my temptation to buy a dedicated SCC for a new West pasture array (400 feet away from the Solar Power Plant) looking forward to seeing more on this thread.