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Gas-Powered Lawn Equipment Will Soon Be Banned In Cali, a broad category that includes generators.

I saw that CARB issued rules this week regarding the offroad engine emissions.

SORE Applicability Fact Sheet | California Air Resources Board

What are the small off-road engine regulations? Small off-road engines (SORE) are spark-ignition engines with rated power at or below 19 kilowatts (25 horsepower).
ww2.arb.ca.gov ww2.arb.ca.gov

Apparently there is a huge list of equipment that the federal government prevents California from applying their rules to, including "brush cutters" so you can expect that noisy gardener to start using a weed whacker with a an engine twice as large (> 40cc) as they are exempt. Stationary generators are also exempt. Anyone interested in a permanent mount kit for your Honda EU2000i?
 
Batvette said:
It should be noted that the day Gavin Newsom finally opened up California businesses for full operation... Was the exact day of Joe Bidens inauguration. Not making that up its true.
Make of that as you will but for future elections it sure would be easy to present economic numbers as if someones leadership was better than the last guy.
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Are you sure? Link to something showing they lifted restrictions on Jan 20th?
 
Texas-Mark said:
It was Mon Jan 25th.
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Yes, and that wasn't Inauguration Day so why is Batvette saying "It should be noted that the day Gavin Newsom finally opened up California businesses for full operation... Was the exact day of Joe Bidens inauguration. Not making that up its true."

Guess he really did make it up
 
Nickatnyt said:
Noise, yes.

Fumes? C'mon man. That guy who legally spews black smoke out of his turbocharged diesel truck would equal hundreds of lawn mowers in seconds.
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I agree and the truck should also be fined or banned. I believe the big rigs can be fined for excessive smoke. Some of the other states may need to tighten up to stop these people from taking away our freedom to breath clean air.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Both are wrong.
 
I have a professional Carbon Dioxide meter and it was really surprising to me how much CO a lawn mower and Generator release when compared to a full size gas vehicle. The Catalytic converters really do a great job at scrubbing out the CO.

As for the laws etc. I was going to get an electric Lawn mower anyway. The Gas ones are just a pain in the rear once they get past a certain age. I ditched the Gas weed whacker about a year ago for a battery powered one and I would never go back to gas. I am looking for a mid priced Lawn mower that has removable battery packs that can do a lot sized lawn. Any suggestions are welcome as most of the mid priced ones I see on Amazon have horrible reviews
 
Your Carbon Dioxide meter measures CO? :ROFLMAO:

But yes, well-tuned car with cat produces around zero or 1 ppm CO. Plain gasoline engine running a bit rich, starved for oxygen, will make a lot of CO. That's why generators kill people, apparently even just exhaust from generator in yard blowing into garage.

Solution to pollution could be a tiny cat and either smog pump or O2 sensor and injection or air bleed valve.
 
robby said:
I am looking for a mid priced Lawn mower that has removable battery packs that can do a lot sized lawn. Any suggestions are welcome as most of the mid priced ones I see on Amazon have horrible reviews
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Plug-in electric lawn mowers have universal motors. Should run fine on DC (except for the switch), sine-wave AC, and I wonder how on MSW?
Is a battery and cheap inverter an option?

My lawn is so small I use a plug-in push mower.

Other tools I'm doing pretty well with Harbor Freight lithium tools (chain saw, pole saw) Also Homelight weed wacker. The HF lawn mower is probably worth trying. Should have a return policy just like everything else.

www.harborfreight.com

80V Brushless Cordless 21 In. Self-Propelled Lawn Mower - Tool Only

Amazing deals on this 80V Self Propelled Lawn Mower - Tool Only at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.
www.harborfreight.com www.harborfreight.com
 
I burn a bit over a gallon of gas every time I mow. Pretty sure that would require a heck of a lot of batteries if I had to go electric. Plus, I'm pretty sure that there isn't an electric mower in the market that would outlast either of my existing mowers and both are over 20 years old.
 
Bud Martin said:
Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new law on Saturday that orders state regulators to ban the sale of new gas-powered equipment using small off-road engines, a broad category that includes generators, lawn equipment and pressure washers.
sacramento.cbslocal.com

Gas-Powered Lawn Equipment Will Soon Be Banned In California

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new law on Saturday that orders state regulators to ban the sale of new gas-powered equipment using small off-road engines, a broad category that includes generators, lawn equipment and pressure washers.
sacramento.cbslocal.com sacramento.cbslocal.com
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Hmm, maybe more people in California will start putting inverters into their hybrids to get their gen power from? There are a lot of Prius's running around on the roads over there...
 
camelCase said:
I burn a bit over a gallon of gas every time I mow.
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My mow requires ~4.5 US gallons. But we are rural and particulate emissions and noise are less of an issue here. In urban environments, it definitely it needs reeling in.

No battery electric mower is yet capable of dealing with our terrain and duration of mow. And if there were, the price would be astronomical. I would love it though as I could charge it with the spare capacity from my off-grid PV system.
 
What I hope to see is some form of standards for power tool batteries. A lawn mower might be used a couple of dozen times a year and sit idle most of the year. I would like to have other uses for the batteries and share the cost of powering the lawnmower with the other tools.

Now I don't imagine for a second that industry or government would call for such standards, but it would be nice.
 
wattmatters said:
My mow requires ~4.5 US gallons. But we are rural and particulate emissions and noise are less of an issue here. In urban environments, it definitely it needs reeling in.

No battery electric mower is yet capable of dealing with our terrain and duration of mow. And if there were, the price would be astronomical. I would love it though as I could charge it with the spare capacity from my off-grid PV system.
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It’s certainly easy enough to make but the final price might be a turn off.
 
Nice lot. It "only" takes me 3 hours to mow mine. And in winter there would be a ton of snow on occasion. My neighbor has a similar sized lot and is able to do it with an electric lawn mower when I replace mine I will most likely use electric as well. However I agree that in your case that is currently not an option. And the same would hold true for commercial law care companies.

As a consumer I would like to get batteries that fit more than one purpose (within reason) and spare parts that adhere to standards. I understand why the manufacturers would prefer to sell me proprietary products instead.
 
Johnson said:
What I hope to see is some form of standards for power tool batteries. A lawn mower might be used a couple of dozen times a year and sit idle most of the year. I would like to have other uses for the batteries and share the cost of powering the lawnmower with the other tools.

Now I don't imagine for a second that industry or government would call for such standards, but it would be nice.
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Several brands have other things that use the same battery…
My weed eater also fits my chain saw…
Ryobi has a line of tools to that use the same battery as their mower. Same with several others… but I agree, universal design would be cooler.
 
Supervstech said:
universal design would be cooler.
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What would be cooler is to have multiple smaller batteries to plug in. The big 60V packs only fit a couple big draw items, but an option to ‘stack’ a bunch of smaller 20V packs makes sense in my head.
The incompatibility of batteries between brands is a feature they use to enhance/create sales for their ‘system.’
I don’t see a universal fit coming.
 
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