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All these discussions make me so glad I stuck with off-grid with grid backup, keeping the electric company out of my business 😎

Finally - with the days slowly getting longer, the sun rising higher in the sky, and some creative rearrangement of my backyard panels - even transplanting a small palm tree - as of three days ago I'm no longer needing to supplement the solar with any grid power at all. Woo-hoo! 🥳

I don’t feel there’s much sense in even doing a PV to battery ratio, but rather PV to load consumption ratio. Ensure you have at least sufficient PV to pull in enough power on a daily basis to cover your loads over a 24 hour period (plus enough to cover efficiency losses and some amount of...

Yeah there’s an amazing difference between the discussions here and the comments on Facebook posts in the diy solar groups. The people in this place are so much more friendly, knowledgeable, and helpful. Very few trolls 😎

AKA EG4 8000XP or probably more like 10kPV - lol

Ha - like a drug dealer’s free sample ?

The best way I have found is this: 1) Enable Battery ECO mode 2) In the Discharge Settings section, set the On Grid EOD SOC% to 90%, which is the highest threshold it will accept. 3) Set the AC Charge End Battery SOC to like 2% lower - like 88% 4) Set the AC Charge Start Batter SOC to slightly...

Makes me think of all the obvious typos I see on a regular basis even in news stories from major outlets... Our English teachers must be so frustrated ;)

Just had 10 of the 370W NE Solar panels delivered from Signature Solar today. Very nice packing job - no damage ??

#3 (sort of). It will switch to pure bypass mode until the load is less than the inverter capacity for a few minutes - then it will switch back to running the loads off the inverter. I have a 6000xp and it does exactly this when I turn on the dryer.

Hey guys - thought I would share something I discovered on the 6000xp that's saving me money. Over the summer/fall months I was running the EG4 3000EHV with 3 of the LL V2 batteries. I would almost always get more solar energy than I could actually use with the loads I'm running off the...

I don’t have any other Victron stuff but I do love the Lynx Power In - great compact set of well protected bus bars 😎

Yes - works great. When I go over the inverter capacity it handles the surge for a few seconds and then seamlessly switches to grid bypass. Once the load demand goes back down then after a few minutes it switches back to running off the inverter.

True in a way - but the advantages for me more than offset the downside of losing a couple of kWh a day to efficiency losses. Going to be quite a long time before those efficiency losses are going to add up to spending 2-3X more for the equipment. Plus, in my case I'm getting more than enough...

The way I look at it, if my array isn't large enough to charge the batteries to either full or at least more than where they started when the sun went down the night before, it's too small. Mine fully charge every day (at least from Feb through October).

Wow - just did all I could think of to make it fail. I maxed out the loads on the inverter up to ~95% of the capacity, with the solar cut off so the only power it had available was battery and grid. At 95% the inverter was still running purely off the battery power. Then I kicked on the dryer...

Well that seems like something to celebrate. At least you confirmed you DON'T have a bad 6000XP 😉

I’m not a Victron guy (yet) but got the Lynx Power In for two reasons: 1) with the limited space I have for my equipment it saves space on the wall vs having positive and negative bus bars mounted separately. 2) one thing I really like about it is better protection from accidentally touching the...

I have one on order from Current Connected. I do plan to use Solar Assistant with it - I'll report back on how it goes. I may be wrong but it appears that with the LuxPower units like this one and the 18kpv - that you might be able to use both SA and the EG4 monitoring system simultaneously...

You do have the option to monitor only with Solar Assistant and do all your configuration from the LCD screen. For myself, I use both on occasion as Solar Assistant does allow you to change some of the settings remotely, but not every configuration option on the inverter is available through SA.

My biggest mistake was starting too small. First an energizer solar generator from Costco. Then the EcoFlow Delta 2 Max with 2 expansion batteries and portable panels. Then the EG4 3k. Currently using the 6000xp with proper ground mounted rigid panels and planning to add a second 6000xp. I would...

Got this from someone's Facebook post. Anyone need a fuse this big for your battery rack? Oh sorry - don't see a DC rating... LOL

Someone accidentally destroyed their 6000XP and decided to disassemble it and shared pics… https://www.facebook.com/share/p/teEAFhGoF9ispctk/?mibextid=K35XfP

Looks like you have all the answers you need, but Will made a nice video on hooking up the Victron communications. Sharing in case you find it helpful...

Personally I really prefer the Victron Lynx Power In. 2x1000amp bus bars in a single enclosure with very good protection. Takes up less space on the wall, too ;)

Yeah I love mine - great solution for my backyard array here in Arizona. Used them to mount all my 370 watt NE panels. I just put several 50 pound sand bags inside each. Even during high wind monsoon storms they haven’t budged at all. I only wish they supported panels that were a bit wider...

Just received my 6000XP today from CC (well it shipped from Signature Solar - not sure what that arrangement is). Swapped out my 3000 EHV for this one. Slogged my way through the initial setup and configuration but so far so good. Have the EG4 and SA monitoring setup and working. Have it...

This certainly reminds me of the “religious” debates re: Windows vs Mac vs Linux, etc. Seems like the people who feel Victron is worth the money and those who feel it is not have all made their points and counter points and no one is going to change their mind - lol.

Correct that the 6000XP has a common neutral - it has a neutral bus bar that you connect both the neutral from you main panel to, as well as to connect out to the neutral in your sub panel. The same goes for the grounds. I would say just leave the neutrals for your circuits connected to the sub...

Excellent - thank you for the confirmation/clarification. The manual section in question is page 10 in the 1.1.7 PDF version, or page 11 in the 1.0.0 printed manual that came with my inverter. See the below table from that page in the manual:

I don’t believe the ad is accurate. I’ve seen ads like this that claim a high wattage that doesn’t ad up with the voltage and current specs. If you could get a 400 watt panel in an 11 inch square panel for $49 that would be amazing and also huge news 😎

If I'm not mistaken, the total shown there in the energy overview section for "Battery" is likely the total discharge power from the batteries. When you say the total kWh you have generated, it is tempting to just look at the solar production number, but if you are constantly running in...

@HighTechLab - you should add that to the banner on your site - “We Don’t Suck” 😎

Yeah if your loads aren’t going to be demanding the 50 amps of bypass you should be fine eh. Downgrading the breakers is a good idea though to protect the 8 gauge wire… every situation is unique.

You’re very welcome. The 6000xp never feeds back to the grid. When solar power is more than your loads, the excess goes to the batteries. If the batteries are full then it only pulls what it needs to cover the loads.

It would be awesome if the information in this doc were incorporated into the manual at some point - like in section 11 where it talks about the working modes. 😎

It won't default to bypass mode, no. It will just power your loads using solar and/or battery as needed until the batteries get down to 20%. Then it will start pulling from the grid to charge your batteries at the rate you configure in the settings. That's how I was using it to start with...

I finally reached out to Emporia for support on this issue. They checked my account and can see a lot of details that I can't through the portal or app and they told me that both my units were showing as being wired up for 3-phase power, which they never have been wired up that way. Right...

Personally I haven’t had any issues with them, but a good number of people have reported issues with their customer support and some have issues with order fulfillment. I bought my EG4 3K, battery rack, and 3 of the LLV2 batteries from them without any issues. I did buy my 6000XP from current...

Awesome thank you Dexter. ??

It does, yes. I have 3 and the master reports to the inverter a max charge rate of 150A 👍🏻

I suggest clips like these to keep the wires tidy and off the roof. They're metal and clip to the underside of the panel frames so they won't break down like plastic zip ties. https://www.solar-electric.com/mccableclips.html

Most of the Victron equipment is not UL listed, so by definition I thought it couldn’t be code compliant anyway, but I’m not a code expert.

Good because that’s my plan in my next steps toward code compliance (even though my system is off grid and I won’t be having it inspected).

Ha- around here I wouldn't say N+1 is the answer. More like N TIMES 2 or 3 or 4..... 😉

I wouldn’t worry too much - these units have been very popular and there have been very few reports of defective units. Odds are yours will be fine 😎

Absolutely. I do 50 amp breakers and 6 gauge wire for the grid input to each inverter, and a combiner panel with 50 amp breakers for the outputs.

Hey guys - my first time posting to the forum, so be gentle ;). My use case is a that I'm powering various things in the house off solar - not feeding back to the grid. I was doing this with an EcoFlow Delta 2 Max w/ extra batteries maxing it out at about 6kwh of battery capacity. Between the...

You wouldn't like it if they called it 8000kPV? ;) LOL

I highly doubt it - but maybe? The firmware is different between the two to some degree. I'm sure the vendors would all say it is not supported, which is not necessarily the same as saying that it won't work. Personally I wouldn't do it without someone else confirming they did it successfully...

Yeah I don’t know what someone was smoking. It’s clear even in the specs in the manual…

I use SA to monitor my 3000 EHV and it didn't show the inverter temperature until I switched to the SA beta channel and started running the latest dev versions. Now I do have the inverter temp data. ?

Yep - A&B. It's all been hooked up and working fine to start with until I happened to look at the data a few weeks ago. Now they're reading accurately again without my having changed anything after contacting support - even though they told me they didn't change anything. Seems like something...

lol - had to look at it twice - thought it read 10kWh at first 😉

In spite of someone from Reliance Controls saying this, it is nonsensical to me. When a circuit switch is set to "Line" it connects the load to the wire connected to the original load circuit's circuit breaker from the main panel. If it is set to "Gen" then it connects the load to the hot...

I have to stop reading this thread now. It is making me jealous of you guys with arrays that put my 5kw array to shame 😎

How is one end the start and the other the end? The current flows either direction depending if the batteries are currently charging or discharging…

How in the world could a vendor manage to cancel your card?

Solar panels are more or less “constant voltage” devices. Meaning that when they are exposed to a reasonable amount of ambient sunlight - even when shaded - they stay at about the same voltage as when in full sun. The available amps are what varies much more based on conditions. Thus the...

I second the Emporia Vue endorsement. I have 2 of them - one for my main panel and one for the loads panel fed by my solar system. It is an excellent product and very easy to use. The only difficulty I had was fitting the device and all the wires and CT sensors in my already packed main...

I'm sure you have a specific reason for it, but just seems interesting you don't want to connect keep your system completely off grid / no grid input when you are still using the grid to power other circuits. I'm just curious why that might be as it would certainly simplify the solution to your...

6awg absolutely yes. I don’t think 4awg will fit.

I agree from a power loss perspective it would be better to split the array into 2 and have separate strings rather than pushing more amps on a single string pair. The 6000XP seems to be designed to be able to do what he is asking about though, so I don't think it would cause issues, per se.

I'm powering a good percentage of the loads in our house - full size refrigerator, upright freezer, 2 PC's with 2 screens each, a MacBook Pro, a mini fridge, a water cooler, 2 large TVs, cable modem, router, Synology NAS, etc. The only 240V loads in our house are the electric clothes dryer and...

Be sure the battery CAN protocol is set to Lux and the inverter set to lithium battery type 0 (eg4). That’s working fine for me anyway. And be sure you’re not confusing the two cables that come with the inverter.

Yes - that has been discussed and confirmed that it is 17 amps per MPPT. ?

Okay - I was able to validate today that with PV power coming in, initiating RSD on the 6000XP still also kills the 12 volt power ??

Hello Captain 😎. I was just looking at the information about that unit - hadn’t heard about that one yet. Looks very slick. Systems like this (I did EcoFlow to start with) are what lured me into solar to begin with. First, to answer your initial questions: All the 400 watt panels I have and...

It has been reported that Solar Assistant does NOT work with the 6000XP Ethernet dongle - only the WiFi one. SA can be connected with WiFi or Ethernet - doesn’t matter - but apparently the Ethernet dongle for the 6000XP has a network port blocked that SA requires to be able to connect to it.

No - no shame - just the longing for ever more power ;)

Except you can’t put that 120 volt output on both legs and use a dual pole breaker to power a 240 volt appliance. Both hots would be in phase.

Yes 👍🏻 Some additional details - depending on your settings, you can either have it start charging the batteries from the grid if the batteries get down to a level you specify, or you can have it switch to bypass mode which effectively just connects the grid input directly to the loads...

I was in the same situation - had one EG4 3K and ended up switching to the 6000XP. I can say that I am very happy with the decision. Part of my thinking was that going with the single 6000XP removes the added complexities of going with 2 units in parallel and the possibility that a problem with...

Seems like something isn't right with the dryer - my 6000XP handles the inrush and continual load of my electric clothes dryer just fine - I wouldn't expect such a huge inrush from a gas dryer.

Umm - you said it - LuxPower Tek.

Correct - regardless of the mode it is in, the bond in the inverter would be disabled. Since the grounds and neutrals are on common bus bars and connected to your sub panel, the N-G bonding is coming from the main panel at all times. Interesting question re: the wire gauges. The manual...

How many batteries? - 3 x 100ah LL V2's Are the battery cables sized for 200 amps? Yes, 2/0 cables. How long are the battery cables? 8 feet Does your dryer have an eco mode setting? Yes Does your dryer has a low heat and auto dry setting? Yes While the dryer does have low power options...

I suspect some people are fighting with Tigo’s with the firmware issue that apparently can only be resolved if you connect them with a TAP and CCA.

All rock stars 👍🏻

I have various panels that get shaded at different times of the day. Overall the Tigo optimizers increase my array output around 15% over the course of the day.

Great to hear that it’s working well. Once you get the WiFi dongle working I highly recommend monitoring it with solar assistant. The EG4 monitoring app and portal are okay, but it only updates the data every five minutes. Solar Assistant gives you data updated every second and has a much more...

Absolutely right. Will did a recent video specifically about this -

https://a1solarstore.com/ has a local pickup in Vegas. They will also ship small quantities if they don’t have what you want locally.

I have bought panels from A1 for local pickup in Arizona. Everything went great. I called them about rails that weren’t listed on their site and they hooked me up with them as well. 😎

Yes - smoke out of the wife’s ears is almost as bad as magic smoke out of the inverter 😎

Good question for EG4 - I have never seen an offline firmware upgrade process for the 6000XP. Maybe @EG4_Jarrett or @HighTechLab can help...

So far none of these responses really answer the original question. I have been looking for something similar too - a "smart" transfer switch that lets you programmatically or manually remotely switch individual circuits between grid and generator (solar). It looks like there is a potential...

@EG4_Jarrett - another vote for an eg4 monitoring portal status page...

I fail to see why you could not use the 6000XP to charge your DIY batteries. Just set the system to lead-acid and configure your thresholds based on voltage...

Okay - I don't have pics yet - I'll add some later, but I just wanted to create a post to celebrate. For a good year now I've been running my 6000XP in a fully-functional, but temporary state. My ~5.5kw array is in the backyard. My inverter and battery rack are in the room I use as a home...

Like we say in the IT industry, you're not a real system administrator until you've broken something. Everyone makes mistakes eh - live and learn. That was an expensive lesson for sure.

That working mode doc is very useful. It's a little hard to follow but very good stuff. Is it posted anywhere or only in this discussion?

FYI - I did confirm that the cabinet cover screws on the 12000XP are M4's, if anyone cares to know.

I wish more MPPT's would incorporate over voltage protection rather than just cooking if you go over. I can only assume it comes down to the added cost of that feature...

The MPPT efficiency is rated at 99%, but the battery charging efficiency at 93%. 93% of 2750 comes to about 2550 watts. The total of the power going into the battery plus the load power plus the internal consumption all pretty much adds up.

Here's what's on my 6000XP label...

I would suggest putting your west facing panels in series, and your east facing panels in series, and putting the 2 together in parallel. As long as the VoC of either series set is below the limit, you're safe, and the ones not getting full sun won't hold back the output of the ones that are...

Gotcha - I’m dense. For some reason I was thinking you had the inputs and outputs in the same conduit. Have a bit of a flu today is my excuse 😎 As far as I know, 4 AWG won’t fit in the neutral bus bar, but perhaps you could use a lug adapter on it. Even 6 AWG is a little tight. More than likely...

Yeah all MPPT's have a stated voltage range. This is the only thing that matters as far as damaging the charge controller. Don't worry so much about the amps - they are "pulled" by the charge controller, whereas the voltage is "pushed" by the panels. As long as you are safely within the...