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Philips may have created the best LED bulb yet

Bought some oddball brand for $26 for 25 pack on Amazon 2700k, clear sealed glass globe, 2w s14, E26 with 2 "filament" that looks very similar..4 years ago. They run cool and havent dimmed over time. Worked so well in overhead multibulb fixtures and lamps that i used them all over.

Have also used other name brands like Sylvania. some other brands have run hot and others have failed with some kind of blinking problem, slow on off. Maybe I got a bad batch, but even other cheap plastic dollar store bulbs have worked well if not for a few failures and voltage drop sensitivity.
 
1201 said:
If you like incandescent, why don't you just buy incandescent?
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Because they eat electricity, and don't last. Thus if you can get an LED that performs the same in look & feel that lasts 10 times as long it's a win. The problem is getting a bulb that actually performs the same from a look and feel standpoint.
 
ksmithaz1 said:
Because they eat electricity, and don't last. Thus if you can get an LED that performs the same in look & feel that lasts 10 times as long it's a win. The problem is getting a bulb that actually performs the same from a look and feel standpoint.
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That's not a problem for anyone except a few who want it the old way.
 
I haven't found any different in the Title 20 requirements for A19 vs. A21 yet that would give a regulatory explanation for their weird choice to make A21's. The other possibility is that Philips needed to use A21 to get enough heat dissipation out of the glass for the "75W" and "100W"output bulbs.

It's causing a lot of confusion on Amazon, I know I didn't think to look out for that.
 
The “best” LED bulb I want is the one isn’t one which looks like an old fashioned bulb, it’s one which will be most efficient. I keep replacing my bulbs at home, each time ikea LED lamps evolve into a more efficient variety. 1.8W for 250 lumens ikea “solhetta” is about the best right now but one day we can maybe have 1W bulbs with a sensible brightness.
 
Sverige said:
The “best” LED bulb I want is the one isn’t one which looks like an old fashioned bulb, it’s one which will be most efficient. I keep replacing my bulbs at home, each time ikea LED lamps evolve into a more efficient variety. 1.8W for 250 lumens ikea “solhetta” is about the best right now but one day we can maybe have 1W bulbs with a sensible brightness.
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Aren't you just chasing crumbs at that point? To save like 20 Watts across the whole house?
 
hwy17 said:
Aren't you just chasing crumbs at that point? To save like 20 Watts across the whole house?
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It’s watt hours which count, and here in the winter when bulbs can be on 18 hours a day, efficiency improvements really help. But different things are important to different people!
 
Longevity and lack of flicker matter to me.
I tried "dimmable" PAR lamps in a range hood, switched to incandescent instead.
I've had a 3-bulb fixture on dimmer in our office for 15 years or so. The bulbs have been burning out recently (I avoided using it except when we need good light.)
I just ordered a few of these Phillips bulbs, hope they're as good as being reported here. Looks like $22 for 4 might be retail price. A bit less through questionable channels, where I like to lurk.

I do like the feel of good old stuff.
 
hwy17 said:
2700k LED filament
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Am I the only one that actually prefers 4500K~5000K lights? Anything under 4500K puts me to sleep in the evening.

Sadly (for people like myself) the best and newest LED tech seems to be in the "warm glow" market. When I was building my house some 8 years ago I had a hell of a time looking for quality LED lighting. (I decided to put GU10 240V fixtures - 85 of them if I remember correctly).

My intent was to buy some reputable brand bulbs, but I could find none (at reasonable price and my preferred colour temp - I think I saw some Osram bulbs that cost as much as 10 medium budget bulbs). Eventually I bought all my lights from a UK reseller of Chinese made bulbs(led hut). I bought some samples first and it seemed they were high quality so I ordered my 85 bulbs plus 20 spares (7W 4500K)

It has been 8 years (I use my lights a lot, 30% of them 16h a day probably, 50% ~6h a day and rest maybe an hour a day) and I just run out of spares. Is that good? Difficult to say. Compared with incandescent or cfl it is amazing. Compared with my expectations (10 year life!) I'm not sure.

I've opened every single one that failed. They all fail the same way. One led diode fails open. Once it is replaced the bulb continues to work. I think if these were de-rated 10% they would last a lot longer.

Can no manufacturer bump the price up by 20% and add an extra diode(rated at the same 7W) ?

I've been recently looking for replacements (in Poland, not UK these days) and the market looks very similar. The main difference seems that there are cheap lights made by companies like Samsung, but considering how variable their colour temp is, I'm not very hopeful for their quality.
 
1201 said:
Who cares?
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He does?

My takeaway from his observation is that effort is still going into improving these bulbs. Like anything else, make a better product than what we were used to, people will buy it. That's a wide range to cover for all walks of life. Had this bulb been out 20 years ago, the switch over would have happened sooner.
 
Tulex said:
He does?

My takeaway from his observation is that effort is still going into improving these bulbs. Like anything else, make a better product than what we were used to, people will buy it. That's a wide range to cover for all walks of life. Had this bulb been out 20 years ago, the switch over would have happened sooner.
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They are not improving the bulbs, just making them "look and feel" like incandescent.

There are bulbs that have a higher cri, there are bulbs that are more efficient per watt , so no they haven't improved anything
 
1201 said:
They are not improving the bulbs, just making them "look and feel" like incandescent.

There are bulbs that have a higher cri, there are bulbs that are more efficient per watt , so no they haven't improved anything
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And as people gravitate toward these bulbs that look and feel more like incandescent, that will cause the manufacturers of those "better bulbs" to follow suit. Constant change to better the market.
 
Tulex said:
And as people gravitate toward these bulbs that look and feel more like incandescent, that will cause the manufacturers of these "better bulbs" to follow suit. Constant change to better the market.
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Who cares?
 
Luk88 said:
Am I the only one that actually prefers 4500K~5000K lights?
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I used to prefer the highest color temperatures until I had my cataracts removed (sepia filter removed from the camera) now my favorite is 4000. But yeah, can’t understand the preference for 2700, might as well light a candle. 🤓
 
1201 said:
they haven't improved anything
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Now they are trying to tweak ghe look and feel (UX) of the bulbs. Good luck to them, I’ve been focussed on 4000K dimmable frosted bulbs where fixtures require it, and permanent fixtures without bulbs where they fit. Some nice 4-foot fluorescent-equivalent fixtures available now.
 
My preference for general evening light is 3000k. I know, not a huge difference, butthe slight less yellow while still being warm is nice for general around the house in the evening.

I have 3500k in my home office. 5000k or whatever for the garage/basement. Bathrooms are 4000k.
 
Some people value the analog version of things.
Serious cameras mimic analog film cameras.
Digital musical instruments attempt to replicate analog musical instruments. Computer word processing was made to be like a typewriter. This is natural. Coupe, Sedan, Phaeton and Landau are types of horse drawn wagons and car body types.

If there is a product that imitates the real thing better than the others, I for one want to know about it. Naysayers can deride the find of a realistic light bulb all they like, It is still great.

To the question why not just use incandescents;
Too much draw for lighting off grid if not required.
On grid I would still be buying them if they were still available, at least for some applications.

The Edison type leds have been reliable for me so far. Even the cheap ones that have been outside for the last 5 years are holding up well.
 
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