Moretorque
New Member
Just wondering if it makes sense at all..... Thanks...
Can I run 2 inverters on my VIC 450/200?
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DIYrich
Solar Wizard
VIC 450/200 puts power into the battery. Inverters take it out. Vic 450/200 couldn't care less.
Adam De Lay
Solar Wizard
The 450/200 is a charge controller used to charge the batteries. It doesn't care what inverters are used.
I have 2 Victron 5kVa inverters running off my battery bank and a 450/100 charging the batteries.
I have 2 Victron 5kVa inverters running off my battery bank and a 450/100 charging the batteries.
Moretorque
New Member
Thanks, does it make any sense to set a system up like this in any way? Like run a LF mixed with the other style. Vic 1200 watt mixed or something like that? Are LF the way to go?
Moretorque
New Member
I think I would have been better off getting 2 450/100's instead but I would have had to shell out 500 more or so $'s...
Partimewages
Solar Addict
There's almost no way to answer your questions without you posting what you're trying to accomplish. If you have already purchased some equipment post that also.
Adam De Lay
Solar Wizard
I'm not sure what you're asking.
Moretorque
New Member
What I have so far is 10,000 watts of panels. 5000 watts of those are 240 watt used from SanTan that are 37.1 volts... I have a 450/200 VIC. I have all kinds of DC/AC inverters, transformers laying around the house which I probably will not use but need to go through and see whats what. I am building a Hand Truck combo 4 wheel style wagon setup that I want to be around 6 to 8 thou watts of power. Yes the equipment on it will be 3 or 4 hundred pounds but in wagon mode it will be easy to move it. I found these nice 1000 pound hand trucks at Tractor Supp you can easily modify and put castor style wheels in front....I also bought a Oupes 2400 watt AIO, it seems to work great but it will not seem to run my PA speakers so I am kinda pissed... Thanks....
Brucey
Solar Wizard
You mention PA speakers, do you have big old school transformer based power amps for those by any chance? I have a couple of behringer ep4000 amps for subwoofers and they will cause my basement lights to dim with grid power when I turn them on with the inrush. I can imagine that tripping a lighter duty/less surge capable inverter
Brucey
Solar Wizard
Some choose to pair something like a Phoenix 48/1200 with 10W zero/idle load for their 24*7 loads like network, security etc, and then use that as the input of a multiplus or Quattro inverter/charger. The 48/1200 takes the regular load as pass thru on the multi/Quattro, if demand increases the Quattro is turned on and uses power assist to boost the say 10A output of the 48/1200 with an additional 20-30 or more amps via the inverter
If you have old school heavy iron pro amps and trying to power them then I would highly recommend heavy surge capable inverters.
sunshine_eggo
Happy Breffast!
Glad you decided to keep the 450/200. If you have a hodgepodge of mixed panels, having the 4 separate MPPT is another benefit I didn't list... 
DIYrich
Solar Wizard
10kW of panels is not portable. So I presume that you will have those fixed somewhere. Might as well put the Charge Controller with the Panels.
Next up is the Battery. Design how you will transport it. Then you can determine how you will plug them into the Charge Controller to charge the battery.
Finally, decide on where you need the power, and how you will transport it there. If the truck will always be where you need the power, then mount the inverter there, or have a portable box for the inverter. It can have the same connection as the Charge Controller, or a separate one, if you may charge and use the portable power at the same time.
If you may leave the Inverter with the Battery (and drive away with the truck), then you may want either: Separate components, or one box that holds the battery and inverter.
Next up is the Battery. Design how you will transport it. Then you can determine how you will plug them into the Charge Controller to charge the battery.
Finally, decide on where you need the power, and how you will transport it there. If the truck will always be where you need the power, then mount the inverter there, or have a portable box for the inverter. It can have the same connection as the Charge Controller, or a separate one, if you may charge and use the portable power at the same time.
If you may leave the Inverter with the Battery (and drive away with the truck), then you may want either: Separate components, or one box that holds the battery and inverter.
Brucey
Solar Wizard
There's something like a 13 minute video on Victron Professional talking about the panel/battery isolation of the rs450s, might be worth a watch for you to drag you over from your 250/100Glad you decided to keep the 450/200. If you have a hodgepodge of mixed panels, having the 4 separate MPPT is another benefit I didn't list...
You just have to pay about $500 extra for the privilege...
sunshine_eggo
Happy Breffast!
There's something like a 13 minute video on Victron Professional talking about the panel/battery isolation of the rs450s, might be worth a watch for you to drag you over from your 250/100
You just have to pay about $500 extra for the privilege...
I'm well aware of it. It was a selling point in trying to get the OP to keep his 450/200.
Moretorque
New Member
These were some speakers I picked up from MonoPrice, these things are 340 Watts each. Class D amps, so far a total steal. They were selling these 15" with a good horn and driver for 340 a pair shipped. I should have bought 2 more but they are gone now.... When I plug them into the 2400 Oupes nothing at all happens, you can see the plug in cord to the speaker spark just a touch but nothing in the way of lighting up...
Moretorque
New Member
I cant afford a Quattro, I want to run a 1200 for the main thing for doing smaller tasks all the time but a bigger more powerful unit that is good but affrodable for the bigger duties when need be?
Brucey
Solar Wizard
What are your power needs beyond what a 48/1200 can provide?
I'd suggest a multiplus 2 48/3000VA UL for $1200 or a multiplus 2 48/5000VA for around $1700, depending on how many 120V amps you need.
I don't know what other inverter/chargers in this price range will provide power assist type functionality (taking the 10A grid input from the 48/1200 and boosting it with battery/inverter as load exceeds 10A). I'm faced with same decision you have.
Brucey
Solar Wizard
The only thing you gain with two 450/100s over a 450/200 is redundancy as far as I can tell (2 trackers in each versus 4 on the 200). They would all be connected to the same power bus. Your inverters take power from that bus, and having a 48/1200 and another 48V inverter on that bus while a 450/200 is charging is perfectly fine and done everyday.
Moretorque
New Member
I'll go on EBAY and find a new Quattro for 50$, the funny thing is Dan at Trophy batteries told me that Victron charge controller was the best one made and out of curiosity I went on ebay just to look with no real intention to buy and a 450/200 was there and it said done in 2 hours so I just threw a bid out and got a new one like that....