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Recovering very low voltage LiFePO4 cells

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Charging low voltage cells is risky. Internal damage may not be apparent. Take appropriate precautions such as charging in a well ventilated area away from anything flammable. If you do try this procedure, you do so at your own risk.

I have taken stored cells from as low as 0.4V and fully recovered them, as long as they weren't puffy and there was no visible damage or deformation compared to good cells. If you charge them normally, they will be destroyed. If the cell is 0V, it is hopeless.

I recently experimented with several cells with starting voltages like 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, and 1.7V. I started with a 40 Ah cell that was at 1.7V and a 5A charge was way too much for it and made it go puffy. So on a whim, I tried 1/2000 C rate. It's probably possible to charge a little faster than my 1/2000 C rate recommendation, but I ran out of low voltage cells to play with.

The trick is to start out at a super low charge current. I suggest 1/2000 C rate. For example, if your cell is 100Ah, charge at 50mA until it's over 2.5V. Then from 2.5V to 3.2V, charge at 1/200 C rate until 3.2V. That's 0.5A in this 100Ah cell example. From 3.2V until 3.4V, charge at 1/20 C rate (5A in this example for 100Ah cells).

I've seen other posts here with much higher current recommendations. While still lower than normal, they weren't low enough for extreme cases like this. So I thought I'd add my two cents.

In one case, I recovered an 8-cell (8S1P) 100Ah battery where the total pack voltage was 3.7V measured directly on the battery (yes, bypassing the BMS). Each cell was around 0.5V. I actually started by charging the entire pack at 40 mA. After the above recovery process, I ran a 40A constant current discharge/charge cycle on the tester and it did the full 100Ah on both discharge and charge. That was a full recovery! If my friends from work read this, they'll know who I am on this forum. Don't tell the boss!
 
A very interesting test. Will these low voltage cells discharge faster than normal cells after they are fully charged?
 
I seen this thread and desided to ask;
I just bought a 16 lifepo4 3.2v cell bundle where each cell had 1.7v on them. My plan was to equilize all 16 @ 3.6v from my power supply @ 2a until reaching the 3.2v then bring it up to10a til 3.6 equilized. would this work, or should I initualy use 3.2v on the start?? I bought this bank for $150, or did I just throw my money away???
 
Ah, I’ve been using a 1A current limit on a 100AH 12V battery, but it keeps disconnecting (tjough total amp-hours and watt-hours continue to increase. I should set it to just above the long-term average and see how it does. Thanks!
 
Charging low voltage cells is risky. Internal damage may not be apparent. Take appropriate precautions such as charging in a well ventilated area away from anything flammable. If you do try this procedure, you do so at your own risk.

I have taken stored cells from as low as 0.4V and fully recovered them, as long as they weren't puffy and there was no visible damage or deformation compared to good cells. If you charge them normally, they will be destroyed. If the cell is 0V, it is hopeless.

I recently experimented with several cells with starting voltages like 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, and 1.7V. I started with a 40 Ah cell that was at 1.7V and a 5A charge was way too much for it and made it go puffy. So on a whim, I tried 1/2000 C rate. It's probably possible to charge a little faster than my 1/2000 C rate recommendation, but I ran out of low voltage cells to play with.

The trick is to start out at a super low charge current. I suggest 1/2000 C rate. For example, if your cell is 100Ah, charge at 50mA until it's over 2.5V. Then from 2.5V to 3.2V, charge at 1/200 C rate until 3.2V. That's 0.5A in this 100Ah cell example. From 3.2V until 3.4V, charge at 1/20 C rate (5A in this example for 100Ah cells).

I've seen other posts here with much higher current recommendations. While still lower than normal, they weren't low enough for extreme cases like this. So I thought I'd add my two cents.

In one case, I recovered an 8-cell (8S1P) 100Ah battery where the total pack voltage was 3.7V measured directly on the battery (yes, bypassing the BMS). Each cell was around 0.5V. I actually started by charging the entire pack at 40 mA. After the above recovery process, I ran a 40A constant current discharge/charge cycle on the tester and it did the full 100Ah on both discharge and charge. That was a full recovery! If my friends from work read this, they'll know who I am on this forum. Don't tell the boss!
Could you share cell health information after recovery? Like how much internal resistance, capacity and discharge with high amperage have changed from factory defaults.
 
I didn't realize the bank I bought was a Victron Lithium 25.6V 200AH Smart LiFePO4 that was opened up BMS was laying on top leads cut and none of the bolts were on the cells also still compressed in the blue box. Does anyone know about the BMS? There are 1/2 as many leads as there are cells so 25.6v means that would've been 48v (51.2v) in series @ 100ah. This is going to be hard to balance with flipping polarity every 2 cells in the compressed row. I don't want to pull them out of compression just to fail at getting them stuffed back in the box. My original system is 24v @ 400ah so combining the 2 banks would not be a good thing without an either/or bank selector switch.
 
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