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New Growatt hybrid inverter SPH10000TL- HU-US split phase
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Solar Guppy
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Maybe you missed the post?
I'm running right now with these batteries, cost me ~4400 for each all in ( product cost, shipping China to Florida, state sales tax and import duty tax ) for 20Kwh ( installed 40Kwh of the Hiten ). Big savings in balance of system as well with 1/8th the current compared to the 48V options
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The Growatt seems to get a lot of kudos so if it does what I need, I'm fine with that.
Only problem is, cannot find the MIN 11000TL-XH-US on their web site. Trying to find the manual/spec sheet.
Searches keep showing either the 10kw units or the 11.4kw units.
Only problem is, cannot find the MIN 11000TL-XH-US on their web site. Trying to find the manual/spec sheet.
Searches keep showing either the 10kw units or the 11.4kw units.
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tacomaguy20
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Keep in mind that's also a HV battery option. The SPH10000TL- HU-US is a 48V battery option.
I have no specific needs so was thinking 48v batteries later.
tacomaguy20
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What are you talking about? It is on the list. I was looking at that one before I started looking at this one. The difference is that I don't want HV batteries, so this model seems to be a better option although it's about $1000 more expensive. Keep in mind that if you buy it and decide you do want 48v batteries, you'll have to replace your inverter.
However, now that I'm comparing the two, besides the HV batteries (and safety), is there any reason to go for the SPH 10000TL-US-US over this model for a grid tie hookup?
The min requires specific batteries , aro or apx.lookup the price. For whole house backup it also requires the $1600 syn200.
The sph also has fans. Several of us have to use external fans on our min units because they get hot! Since they don't have inbuilt fans.
If going grid tie with no plans to ever add a battery the min would be the answer. With batteries the sph is the better choice
tacomaguy20
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Oh I see, I knew about the batteries but I didn't realize the Syn200 was required (or that it cost 1600 dollars). That takes away the benefit of it being cheaper and since it gets hot that definitely wouldn't be the answer for me. Thanks.
MajicDiver
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It’s not actually “required “, it depends on what you want to do. I’m totally/permanently off grid with the MIN 11400TL-XH-US inverters. I have a separate stand alone auto transformer. If we wanted to go back on grid I’d just open two breakers and shut one. If you wanted to auto-transfer between grid/off grid there are other ways to do it without the SYN.
I recommend @tacomaguy20 read this thread for clarification
Is anyone using MIN TL XH US V3 with ATS-US?
I have a MIN 1400TL-XH-US and an ATS-11400-US purchased from Signature Solar. The inverter refuses to supply power to the ATS. When grid disconnects, it enters standby mode with warning code 300 (no utility) or 607 (abnormal communication with off-grid box). No voltage on the backup terminals...
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Yeah, you're right. I used chatgpt to organize that list into viable options and it omitted this one and others. AI, not so good on the I part yet.
Anyhow, yes, I want to use 48V batteries and want choices of batteries too, not be tied down to specific ones so this one won't work.
Back to the search I guess.
BTW, I see it for as little of $1400.00 at signature solar so I'm not sure what you mean by 'it's about $1000 more'.
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tacomaguy20
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I meant the model this thread is based on (SPH10000TL- HU-US) is 1000 dollars more than that one. But it is also on the CA list and it does allow for 48V batteries. Why have you ruled this one out? I'm only waiting to see some video reviews of it in action (and give it a little time to work out any potential bugs/updates) before I decide to make the purchase.
tacomaguy20
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I recommend @tacomaguy20 read this thread for clarification
Is anyone using MIN TL XH US V3 with ATS-US?
I have a MIN 1400TL-XH-US and an ATS-11400-US purchased from Signature Solar. The inverter refuses to supply power to the ATS. When grid disconnects, it enters standby mode with warning code 300 (no utility) or 607 (abnormal communication with off-grid box). No voltage on the backup terminals...
Thanks, that makes more sense now. 3 different versions.. that sounds like a headache honestly.
I don't see the SPH10000TL- HU-US on the CA list, even searching for SPH10000TL only.
Wait, found it. SPH 10000TL
I want something slightly larger than my 10KW of panels because as I change those out, I won't be able to find the older ones which are only 238 watts max and would have to use larger so want the inverter to be able to handle that.
What a confusing and time consuming task it's been trying to find an inverter. Most of the ones I would consider in the list either can't be found in the USA, don't meet my requirements or one thing or another.
I would prefer not ordering from out of country as chances of damage is too high and I need this asap.
Wait, found it. SPH 10000TL
I want something slightly larger than my 10KW of panels because as I change those out, I won't be able to find the older ones which are only 238 watts max and would have to use larger so want the inverter to be able to handle that.
What a confusing and time consuming task it's been trying to find an inverter. Most of the ones I would consider in the list either can't be found in the USA, don't meet my requirements or one thing or another.
I would prefer not ordering from out of country as chances of damage is too high and I need this asap.
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now you know why I'm so excited about the sph10000tl
tacomaguy20
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This one can handle 15K PV input but 5000 of that would go towards batteries likely because it can only output 10K
It's pretty easy if you want to spend more (EG4 18K for example), but in this price range it's not as easy... that's why this one seems to be a good option.. as long as it works as expected
Self2Solar has these for sale.
tacomaguy20
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now you know why I'm so excited about the sph10000tl
Yeah as long as they don't start putting out alternate versions and confusing everyone.
Yeah they shouldn't do that but what I'm excited about is that it's all contained in one box. I don't need anything external to make it work
tacomaguy20
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Yeah that's nice. I see Will dropped his EG4 12k video today. Impressive amp surge capacity but with my configuration I won't need that. It looks like it's about $3500 (preorder) at signature solar vs 2650 for this at self2solar. I think I'd prefer the higher input and output of this. This Growatt hybrid may be good competition for them. The 12k is not on the CA list yet either.
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The higher input is nice but it locks you in. When you go to get your next inverter it now has to also be 600v.
You could also consider the growatt and ac couple a min 7.6 . Same price , you get your 600v, and up to 17.6kw of daytime power, 10kw nighttime.
cs1234
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Excited is one way to phrase it.now you know why I'm so excited about the sph10000tl
Lol. How would you phrase it?
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