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LiFePO4 - how far to drain

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Hi guys,

I have two 12v 200Ah batteries in parallel for a 400Ah bank. I was just wondering what is good practice for draining lithium batteries? I have read it is not great practice to leave them sitting at 100% SOC for long periods of time. Should I be constantly draining them and recharging? And what would be a 'good' percentage to drain them to each time?

Thank you
 
Hi guys,

I have two 12v 200Ah batteries in parallel for a 400Ah bank. I was just wondering (1) what is good practice for draining lithium batteries? I have read it is not (2) great practice to leave them sitting at 100% SOC for long periods of time. (3) Should I be constantly draining them and recharging? And what would be a (4) 'good' percentage to drain them to each time?

Thank you

(1) it varies on the cell quality. Low resistance, high quality cells don't really matter a lot.

(2) LFP doesn't degrade with high SoC storage as much as Lithium NMC, but it's possible. Battle Born indicates their batteries can be stored at 100% indefinitely.

(3) In most cases, when people use them semi-regularly, that's what happens and that's all that's needed. Rather than deliberately cycle them for no reason, the more conservative approach is to store them at a lower state of charge.

(4) Most new cells received are somewhere around the 3.25-3.3V range. Draining a know amount down to 50-70% of capacity should be fine.

If storage time is a few months, it's probably not an issue. If you're talking years or indefinitely, you likely want to store them at a lower SoC.

Temperature is also a major player. If they're stored indoors in a controlled environment or in cool but not exceedingly cold weather, very little degradation will occur. Hot temps accelerate degradation.
 
(1) it varies on the cell quality. Low resistance, high quality cells don't really matter a lot.

(2) LFP doesn't degrade with high SoC storage as much as Lithium NMC, but it's possible. Battle Born indicates their batteries can be stored at 100% indefinitely.

(3) In most cases, when people use them semi-regularly, that's what happens and that's all that's needed. Rather than deliberately cycle them for no reason, the more conservative approach is to store them at a lower state of charge.

(4) Most new cells received are somewhere around the 3.25-3.3V range. Draining a know amount down to 50-70% of capacity should be fine.

If storage time is a few months, it's probably not an issue. If you're talking years or indefinitely, you likely want to store them at a lower SoC.

Temperature is also a major player. If they're stored indoors in a controlled environment or in cool but not exceedingly cold weather, very little degradation will occur. Hot temps accelerate degradation.
Thank you. Mine are in a full time van conversion and will be used daily. Will damage occur if I am regularly draining beneath 50%?
 
Not at all. 50% drain rule is only true for lead-acid. LFP can go to 0%, but 20% is recommended to further improve cycle life as is charging to a little less than full. Operating in the 20-80% SoC range may substantially improve the cycle life.
 
Not at all. 50% drain rule is only true for lead-acid. LFP can go to 0%, but 20% is recommended to further improve cycle life as is charging to a little less than full. Operating in the 20-80% SoC range may substantially improve the cycle life.
Thanks again. Glad I splurged for the LiFePO over lead acid.
 
Thank you. Mine are in a full time van conversion and will be used daily. Will damage occur if I am regularly draining beneath 50%?
Dunno how you actually bought LFP but are asking such questions. Did you read anything on LFP batteries?
 
Dunno how you actually bought LFP but are asking such questions. Did you read anything on LFP batteries?
You seem friendly! Yep, read a bunch but still have some outlying questions.
 
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