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Help interpret my BMS screen

I am dealing with this right now, too. I'm running a 280ah battery with 800 watts solar, which should be adequate, but my weather has been crap lately, and I've only gotten a full charge once in two weeks. Compounded by the fact that I just took my whole system apart the other day, to switch things around and add my new victron scc, and both my monitors (jbd BMS and victron BMV 700) got reset. I just reset my bms, because it was showing only 40% and 90 ah remaining at 3.35 vpc. After reset, the soc was more in line with expectations. Bmv700 showed 270 ah remaining. Finally having some sun today, and battery#1 is at 3.31 vpc while battery #2(just built, not connected) is being charged by my power supply @10amps. BMV was recently reset, as I said, and is now indicating 254 remaining, while BMV shows 261 remaining. They seem to be more in line with expected numbers. Hopefully, #1 will reach 100% SOC by the end of the day. I'm shooting for top-off at 14v even. I'd like to get a good top and soak for my first cap test. Two hours until loss of sun for the day. I hope I get there. May have to stop charging#2.
How many times did you have to cycle it to get the BMV to agree with the BMS?

I have a battery monitor too, but have largely been ignoring the SOC reading at this point as I understand it needs regular syncing.
 
How many times did you have to cycle it to get the BMV to agree with the BMS?

I have a battery monitor too, but have largely been ignoring the SOC reading at this point as I understand it needs regular syncing.
I haven't done a full top-off yet. Still very cloudy here near Houston. Basically, as soon as I hit reset on the BMS, it came in line with the BMV. Fwiw, hitting 'reset capacity' in the BMS does not reset anything else, so there's no harm in trying it. In 'three bars' menu, under 'function settings' there is a button to 'reset capacity'. When you hit it, it basically tries to approximate remaining capacity. Based on voltage, I guess? Not really sure, but it does seem fairly accurate. At the moment, my bms says I have used 68 ah, and my BMV says I've used 43. We usually have good sun in December, but get lots of overcast in January, but we've been overcast here since Thanksgiving, this year. It's making it very difficult to top up. This overcast is the whole reason I wanted a big bank. I travel a lot, and take my solar with me, so I really don't want to buy more panels. Most of the year, 800 watts is more than I need:/
 
I haven't done a full top-off yet. Still very cloudy here near Houston. Basically, as soon as I hit reset on the BMS, it came in line with the BMV. Fwiw, hitting 'reset capacity' in the BMS does not reset anything else, so there's no harm in trying it. In 'three bars' menu, under 'function settings' there is a button to 'reset capacity'. When you hit it, it basically tries to approximate remaining capacity. Based on voltage, I guess? Not really sure, but it does seem fairly accurate. At the moment, my bms says I have used 68 ah, and my BMV says I've used 43. We usually have good sun in December, but get lots of overcast in January, but we've been overcast here since Thanksgiving, this year. It's making it very difficult to top up. This overcast is the whole reason I wanted a big bank. I travel a lot, and take my solar with me, so I really don't want to buy more panels. Most of the year, 800 watts is more than I need:/
That's really interesting. Thanks for that, I never noticed that option before. I just tried it and it reset my capacity to 37% @ 3.28v, so still under reading for me (should be more like 65%).
 
That's really interesting. Thanks for that, I never noticed that option before. I just tried it and it reset my capacity to 37% @ 3.28v, so still under reading for me (should be more like 65%).
So, the sun finally came out today, plus I got another 2x100 watts panels in. Sucked down 2.65 kwh today, and the battery will probably take more. It was still charging at 35 amps when the tree shadows ended my day. Battery is sitting at 13.388, having gained just .58 volt:/ Both my gauges (BMS and BMV) showed full charge hours before sunset, and the battery kept charging. So, I'm guessing that they should start counting off ah together, for the first time. It's obvious that the BMS is not basing SOC on voltage. Still, if the sun comes out again tomorrow, I'll keep trying to get my battery up to 14v. I would have thought 2.6kwh would top off my 280ah battery. Idk. This flat voltage curve and high capacity really are going to take some getting used to. I'm beginning to feel that the BMS coulomb counter may be just a rough estimate. I'll report back if I ever get the battery to 14v. If I do, I will perform a full capacity test, with a regulated load, and we'll see how accurate both gauges are.
 
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So, the sun finally came out today, plus I got another 2x100 watts panels in. Sucked down 2.65 kwh today, and the battery will probably take more. It was still charging at 35 amps when the tree shadows ended my day. Battery is sitting at 13.388, having gained just .58 volt:/ Both my gauges (BMS and BMV) showed full charge hours before sunset, and the battery kept charging. So, I'm guessing that they should start counting off ah together, for the first time. It's obvious that the BMS is not basing SOC on voltage. Still, if the sun comes out again tomorrow, I'll keep trying to get my battery up to 14v. I would have thought 2.6kwh would top off my 280ah battery. Idk. This flat voltage curve and high capacity really are going to take some getting used to. I'm beginning to feel that the BMS coulomb counter may be just a rough estimate. I'll report back if I ever get the battery to 14v. If I do, I will perform a full capacity test, with a regulated load, and we'll see how accurate both gauges are.
I changed my bms voltage settings in 'parameter settings'. Reduced the values for 100%, 80% etc. It immediately altered the SOC setting, so I surmised that the SOC is based purely on voltage.

Happy to be proved wrong though
 
The SOC estimation has been describe as Method 1 - Voltage based and Method 2 - Coulomb Counting here: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/jbd-overkill-bms-state-of-charge.28329/

Changing settings or using the Reset Capacity option forces the SOC estimate to be based on your 20/40/60/80% voltage settings (Method 1). When the battery is charging or discharging it uses Coulomb Counting (Method 2).

I set the 20/40/60/80% voltage points from rested voltages after testing. If my battery hasn't been used for a while then I use the Reset Capacity option just before using the battery again to always have an accurate starting SOC.
 
The SOC estimation has been describe as Method 1 - Voltage based and Method 2 - Coulomb Counting here: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/jbd-overkill-bms-state-of-charge.28329/

Changing settings or using the Reset Capacity option forces the SOC estimate to be based on your 20/40/60/80% voltage settings (Method 1). When the battery is charging or discharging it uses Coulomb Counting (Method 2).

I set the 20/40/60/80% voltage points from rested voltages after testing. If my battery hasn't been used for a while then I use the Reset Capacity option just before using the battery again to always have an accurate starting SOC.
Thanks for that.

I think I will set mine manually too. Its a shame the battery manufacturer (Winston in my case) doesn't publish a chart of SOC at a given voltage as a function of temperature. They do a graph, but as the 'curve' is so flat, it is impossible to get any useful information from it.
 
Just an update. I pulled around 80ah out of my battery last night. I did not compare gauges last night, but today, after a bit of charging, my bms says I am 20 ah below full, and my bms says I am 25 ah below full. I am inclined to trust the Victron BMV over the BMS. Idk. Luckily, these measurements are not 'mission critical':) Going yo read linked article now. Thx.
 
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