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BMS vs Balancer vs Protector

SailCS33

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I'm in planning stages of a small solar setup I'll be using on a sailboat. 100-200 amp solar panel, 100amp hour, lifepo4 battery. I'm very confused about bms... Seems many bms advertised with balancer and protector. Does that mean i don't need a balancer or would i still be better off having one? Then there's a protector... Is that something i should have separate?

Thanks for everything!
 
Some googling lead me to a video that somewhat answers one of my questions. From that video i learned that active balancer maybe connected in parallel with a bms. Sounds like bms has balancing capability but it isn't nearly as efficient as an active balancer..
 
They are all different devices for different purposes. A BMS is a 'battery management system', which takes care of monitoring the cells and cut off the charger when the cells get too hot or too cold, and prevent overcharging and discharging. A balancer is a device that (actively or passively) keeps individual cells in balance, i.e., at the same voltage/state of charge between them. Whether you need this one or not depends a lot on load and how fast you discharge/charge - for typical solar installations I would say you don't need one. Most BMS systems have the functions you would expect from a protector, but not vice versa - for example a typical battery protector only protects against over discharge by disconnecting the inverter from the battery.
 
Some googling lead me to a video that somewhat answers one of my questions. From that video i learned that active balancer maybe connected in parallel with a bms. Sounds like bms has balancing capability but it isn't nearly as efficient as an active balancer..

You are correct, both (usually) balance. But an active balancer usually has a much higher current. A BMS' prime role is cell level protection and management, balancing is one part of this, and not the most important one.
 
I think most of us are too concerned about exact cell balance unless you are an experimenter / builder of battery packs and are interested in the exact performance parameters. I use Daly BMS's and so far have performed faultlessly protecting the packs that I experiment with. Build your set-up , use / cycle it and forget about it unless you get degraded perforfance , then investigate. If you can get to the individual cells , perform a cell test once or twice a year and if necessary , balance the cells.
 
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