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I'm not going to leave my house to buy solar panels. I demand everything be brought to me on a golden chariot!
I actually go to the freight terminal to pick up my server rack batteries because I want less people who aren't me to handle them.

But today was a pain, trying to buy solar rack at a traditional electrical supply house... They refuse to call back and something tells me it's going to suck going in person too, might just need to get some superstrut at home depot.
 
I actually go to the freight terminal to pick up my server rack batteries because I want less people who aren't me to handle them.

But today was a pain, trying to buy solar rack at a traditional electrical supply house... They refuse to call back and something tells me it's going to suck going in person too, might just need to get some superstrut at home depot.
Ugh, it's like 15 miles through crappy Austin traffic to get to the freight terminals from where I am. I've gotten so lazy over the last few years that the thought of driving over there, going inside, waiting for them to find it, fork it out to me.. just sounds so unpleasant.

You're right though, the fewer people besides you that handle it, the better.
 
I don't think I will go with Sigineer, the idle consumption is too high. My battery only has 13AH, that will drain in half a day if I let it run. I do plan on adding a couple more batteries but that is just to start.

I do want more available power for my money though... The Phoenix 48/1200 seems so solid but 1000w seems so low.

I was looking at the Cotek sd1500 and 2500 but it seems people on here don't like them anymore? I didn't plan on having ac charging but it might be nice to have. The two have decent idle draw and the prices are acceptable to me for what you get. Even if they aren't LF.

I could just get the Multiplus 3k but then I need to erect a shed for it :ROFLMAO: I'm trying to stay compact and mobile here.

Don't know the type of battery, but If using Lifepo4 batteries...

One other item to consider is battery bank size. Amps needed to run a 1500w inverter / 48v = 31.25amps. Actually more when inverter losses of 10% are considered. The Samlex 1500 watt inverter specs list 50 amp max input current.

For a battery of 13ah it would need to run at 2.5C (2.5 x 13ah = 32.5amps) to run the 1500 watt inverter and really more. Most Lifep04 batteries cannot output 2.5 times its ah rating and if it can not for long. A battery more than 3 times the size of 13ah (50ah) would really be a minimum and more like a 100ah battery is needed.

For the Samlex 1500 watt inverter a 48v 100ah battery would run at most .5C (50 amp max / 100ah = .5C) which is usually considered OK.

As you mentioned before need more batteries...
 
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It is a Lifepo4 13ah little baby battery... Continuous output says 25 amps, 35a max. I can't buy everything at once so I need to buy here and there because I am poor. So eventually I will have 2 batteries. After hearing this maybe I will mount everything up but not connect batteries until I have two in the box ?
2.5C discharge rating! What kind of BMS do they use in this battery?
Can you provide the link to this battery?
 
That invertor is not a LF invertor in the conventional sense. It’s a HF invertor

The bigger metal cases Phoenix invertors have what Victron describe as hybrid HF , ie both a HF switching stage and a LF drive stage.

Victron don’t make a conventional LF invertor to my knowledge.
AFAIK None of the inverters currently on the market are truly LF switching. Even all the heavy transformer ones are HF switching variety or what Victron calls hybrid HF.
LF switching inverters are dinosaurs from prehistory, super heavy with lousy efficiency. Last ones have been available more than 20 years ago.
 
AFAIK None of the inverters currently on the market are truly LF switching. Even all the heavy transformer ones are HF switching variety or what Victron calls hybrid HF.

Perhaps Victron knows better: hybrid HF is better than either pure LF or pure HF.

In the Philippines there is a group that DIY's for the local market:

1kw model:

LF switching inverters are dinosaurs from prehistory, super heavy with lousy efficiency. Last ones have been available more than 20 years ago.

It's technological progression. Numerous examples from history to cite; Bitcoin has lousy efficiency, but it is the granddaddy of them all.
 
LF switching inverters are dinosaurs from prehistory, super heavy with lousy efficiency. Last ones have been available more than 20 years ago.
Dunno the Chinese MUST Power, Sandi etc. big three phase inverters seem pretty LF to me and are available for 1/2 the price of similar Victron solution. Sure they are only 88-92% effective at best but you ain't gonna start any big motors with the HF inverters currently on the market.
 
Dunno the Chinese MUST Power, Sandi etc. big three phase inverters seem pretty LF to me and are available for 1/2 the price of similar Victron solution. Sure they are only 88-92% effective at best but you ain't gonna start any big motors with the HF inverters currently on the market.

TBB also advertises "transformer-based" technology for "high inductive loads", but not sure though if it is LF, and their products are more expensive.

 
TBB also advertises "transformer-based" technology for "high inductive loads", but not sure though if it is LF, and their products are more expensive.

Dang these look NICE. And the Kinergier Pro can be 3-Phase connected. I've emailed them for some pics and clarification as to what is "transformer-based" and price. Hopefully they'll rely soon.
 
Dang these look NICE. And the Kinergier Pro can be 3-Phase connected. I've emailed them for some pics and clarification as to what is "transformer-based" and price. Hopefully they'll rely soon.

AFAIK they have also not been cloned. I haven't really seen such a design with other Chinese inverters, nor their specs. Or maybe they just refuse to be cloned.
 
AFAIK they have also not been cloned. I haven't really seen such a design with other Chinese inverters, nor their specs. Or maybe they just refuse to be cloned.
Yeah it also looks kinda new. Problem (at least for me) is it that there aren't that many 3-phase capable LF systems. If this is truly LF and it can really be connected together I might buy some. It seems like a better deal than a single 3-phase box (loosing one inverter won't leave you without power etc.).
 
Yeah it also looks kinda new. Problem (at least for me) is it that there aren't that many 3-phase capable LF systems. If this is truly LF and it can really be connected together I might buy some. It seems like a better deal than a single 3-phase box (loosing one inverter won't leave you without power etc.).

I'm not really familiar with 3-phase. They have a case study in Spain:


Apparently they also have clients in South Africa (and the Philippines).

Their English grammar are high quality in their write-ups, compared to other Chinese brands (but of course they can hire someone to do it). Not too many online reviews yet, though.
 
but not sure though if it is LF
From a European seller of these inverters said:
The Kinergier Pro inverter-charger from TBB power is a class leading product backed with a 5 year warranty.
It is a true low frequency inverter that is a proven product in the market.
The CK8.0S is designed for off grid applications and has many features and programmable options.
So it seems it's true a LF inverter (probably a toroidal transformer too).
 
So it seems it's true a LF inverter (probably a toroidal transformer too).

I think now, all their products are LF and toroidal.

Good that they have a European seller. They have local presence in their markets. And 5-year warranty (like Victron's?).
 
I was about to drop $500 on a Phoenix 48/1200 but put that on hold in search of something with a little bit more power for less than $500. I can't find anything on amazon or ebay that is a legit LF inverter for under $900!

How is Victron, who is normally the most expensive option, the least expensive option in this particular arena?!
This 2500W unit claims to be LF. I don't know if the claim is true, but I'm impressed by 7500W surge for 20 seconds. It's $650, so not below 500. Anyone know more about these inverters?
 

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