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Hi everyone, I bought a 12 v agm battery identical to the current one, so I connected them in parallel. Having 540 watts of solar panels and referring to the maximum absorption of a single battery of about 21 amps, I would have expected that having connected the other battery in parallel the total absorption would be du 40 amps. . I see that instead despite being 2 in parallel the absorption is always kept at 21 amps. Why?
 
what is the charge controller? Maybe charge output limited by charge controller.

when you say "absorption" are you taking about charging in general or are you specifically talking about the absorbtion phase which is a fixed voltage and decreasing amperage phase.
 
I think you have a Epever 3210 limited to 30 amps max output.

Depending on the SOC, the AGM batteries will limit the current they will accept. This will also depend on the absorbtion voltage setting.

To get a true idea of available current from the solar controller apply a high current load on the batteries.

Mike
 
what is the charge controller? Maybe charge output limited by charge controller.

when you say "absorption" are you taking about charging in general or are you specifically talking about the absorbtion phase which is a fixed voltage and decreasing amperage phase.
Thank you for answering . Epever 3210AN , the controller has a fixed power does not allow me to vary any parameters . As for the absorption phase, I can't tell you because I have limited knowledge, but I can tell you that in the morning when the batteries are charging from 9.00 AM until 14.00 Pm as written they expected a charge of at least 30 amps, instead it always stops at 21 amps.
 
I think you have a Epever 3210 limited to 30 amps max output.

Depending on the SOC, the AGM batteries will limit the current they will accept. This will also depend on the absorbtion voltage setting.

To get a true idea of available current from the solar controller apply a high current load on the batteries.

Mike
Hi Mike, here are the parameters. I carried out tests with a 240 watt load, and looking through ever software I always read 300 watts. The panels are 3 and of the same brand and model, 12 v 180 watts for one. As written, however, the question is: after adding the second identical battery to the first, I have to expect that the accumulation can receive e.g. 40 amps in short, the maximum of what can generate 540 watts of fv or not? I tested the panels in voc, and all three seem to give the correct vacuum voltage of 23 volts. What is not clear to me is just to understand if the batteries have their own absorption limits (resitive factor), I refer to the fact that if I sent even 100 amps the battery can absorb at most e.g. 30 amps. In short, to understand all the opposite of lithium. I still have the doubt to understand the charge factor always at 21 amps and not at 40 for example, considering that now there are 2 batteries. AGM c100 110 ampere cadauna . Mine are beginner's observations.
 

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Anytime you add a battery in parallel, your charge limit doubles, triples, etc depending on how many there are.
 
Anytime you add a battery in parallel, your charge limit doubles, triples, etc depending on how many there are.
If you intend to double, because having panels that are able to provide even 30 amps, I see that in charge it is always stopped at 21? It seems or I have the feeling that a battery limits the charge.
 
Or the panels can’t output anymore, or the SCC is the bottleneck.

Just adding another battery doesn’t mean a system can provide more charge current.
 
Hi everyone, I bought a 12 v agm battery identical to the current one, so I connected them in parallel. Having 540 watts of solar panels and referring to the maximum absorption of a single battery of about 21 amps, I would have expected that having connected the other battery in parallel the total absorption would be du 40 amps. . I see that instead despite being 2 in parallel the absorption is always kept at 21 amps. Why?
If your SCC is outputting 21 amps at 15v that is 315w. or 58% of panel wattage. Not an unusual amount depending on time of year and panel location. I generally am happy when I get 75-80% at my place. Adding another battery does not change what your PV and SCC can output. It only adds to the storage capacity. And as you note that if the SCC only outputs a given amperage it is seen by batteries in parallel to be divided by the number (21a/2=10.5a per battery)

I would suggest double checking your PV connections and panel mounting to see if improvements can be made.
 
If your SCC is outputting 21 amps at 15v that is 315w. or 58% of panel wattage. Not an unusual amount depending on time of year and panel location. I generally am happy when I get 75-80% at my place. Adding another battery does not change what your PV and SCC can output. It only adds to the storage capacity. And as you note that if the SCC only outputs a given amperage it is seen by batteries in parallel to be divided by the number (21a/2=10.5a per battery)

I would suggest double checking your PV connections and panel mounting to see if improvements can be made.
I don't know what you intend to check. I tried individually to check the open circuit voltage individually and they are all and three at 23.1 volts, so I think they are healthy, as they are new.
 
I don't know what you intend to check. I tried individually to check the open circuit voltage individually and they are all and three at 23.1 volts, so I think they are healthy, as they are new.
Check panel orientation to the sun. Check voltage at the SCC (Solar charge controller) when charging at the PV input terminals. Open circuit voltage only tells you the panels are producing voltage but not how much power they are producing under a load. For that you need voltage under load and amperage to get wattage. W=VA

And as I said panels rarely deliver rated full wattage.
 
You are correct the batteries limit the charging rate.
Did you equalize the 2 batteries or just put them together without doing that.
Lead acid batteries are top balanced and lithium bottom balance and both must be equalized.
Out of balance batteries will only charge to the highest state of charge battery and that battery will give the charge controller information to reduce charging leaving out of balance battery undercharged.
Disconnect the batteries charge each to maximum separately then join together leave for 24 hours and reconnect to the solar system.
 
The only people who bottom balance lithium cells are diy EV builders who don't want to use a BMS. And most of them are now changing their mind.
 
I would check the output of my panels first. Individually check the charge rate of each panel by disconnecting the 2 other panels and see what the output is. If you are only getting 7 amps per panel you will only get 21 amps total. Try to avoid guessing on how much power your panels are producing know exactly what it is. Panels rarely produce their rated output sometimes less than half depending on quality, shade, orientation, heat and other factors. Check it out don’t guess.
 
You are correct the batteries limit the charging rate.
Did you equalize the 2 batteries or just put them together without doing that.
Lead acid batteries are top balanced and lithium bottom balance and both must be equalized.
Out of balance batteries will only charge to the highest state of charge battery and that battery will give the charge controller information to reduce charging leaving out of balance battery undercharged.
Disconnect the batteries charge each to maximum separately then join together leave for 24 hours and reconnect to the solar system.
Hi, the batteries are AGM and do not have to be equalized, so I don't think it has to be done. The reason why they should not be equalized and why unlike flooded they cannot boil .....
 
I would check the output of my panels first. Individually check the charge rate of each panel by disconnecting the 2 other panels and see what the output is. If you are only getting 7 amps per panel you will only get 21 amps total. Try to avoid guessing on how much power your panels are producing know exactly what it is. Panels rarely produce their rated output sometimes less than half depending on quality, shade, orientation, heat and other factors. Check it out don’t guess.
Yes, even if it is a spartan test, it is appropriate as advice. Each panel could give 9.43 amps but considering the season I expect 7 amps as you say. I should connect 1 panel at a time and see . However, the panels are identical and new, bought only a few months later.
 
Yes, even if it is a spartan test, it is appropriate as advice. Each panel could give 9.43 amps but considering the season I expect 7 amps as you say. I should connect 1 panel at a time and see . However, the panels are identical and new, bought only a few months later.
Even new products aren’t always good. I would want to verify they are all working as they should.
 
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