Struggling in the UK

Urge38 · May 2, 2023

Hi People,

Ive been put onto the Schneider XW by a member in this group as a possible inverter/charger for my special needs lol (high induction loads)

Ive seen a grate video showing this inverter charger handling huge inrush currents, and it looks like a very good contender for my needs.

ONLY ive spent all day searching and calling people about this model and I am no more forwards than I was a week ago,

Its practically impossible living in the UK to get any decent help, even when I am after purchasing this model at around 4k uk sterling

I am now wondering what would be plan B ???

dmsims · May 2, 2023

Victron ?

billt1827 · May 2, 2023

SMA Sunny Island 8.0H-13, except they seem to be unobtainable at the moment.

Urge38 · May 3, 2023

billt1827 said:
SMA Sunny Island 8.0H-13, except they seem to be unobtainable at the moment.

Unfortunately I don't think the sunny island is a low frequency inverter

I specifically need a low frequency inverter to run high induction loads

Urge38 · May 3, 2023

dmsims said:
Victron ?

I am unaware if Victron do a low frequency inverter

SeaGal · May 3, 2023

Urge38 said:
Its practically impossible living in the UK to get any decent help, even when I am after purchasing this model at around 4k uk sterling

I am now wondering what would be plan B ???

Move to the USA? ?

upnorthandpersonal · May 3, 2023

Victron uses a hybrid model which gives high surge power capability (it uses a large toroidal transformer) yet can achieve very low stand-by/self consumption.

Urge38 · May 3, 2023

upnorthandpersonal said:
Victron uses a hybrid model which gives high surge power capability (it uses a large toroidal transformer) yet can achieve very low stand-by/self consumption.

what model would that be plz ??

SamDeleted · May 3, 2023

Have you looked at these?

Low Frequency Inverters - P B Battery Solutions

SamDeleted · May 3, 2023

SamG340 said:
Have you looked at these?

Low Frequency Inverters - P B Battery Solutions

But at £1,000~ for the biggest low frequency there

£1,500 for a victron multiplus might seem like a better option ?

Victron Energy MultiPlus II 48V 48/5000/70-50 Pure Sine Power Inverter Battery Charger - Low Energy Supermarket

The MultiPlus-II model 48v-5000-70-100 combines the functions of the MultiPlus and the MultiGrid. It has all the features of the MultiPlus, plus an external current transformer option to implement PowerControl and PowerAssist and to optimize self-consumption with external current sensing. It...

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billt1827 · May 3, 2023

Urge38 said:
Unfortunately I don't think the sunny island is a low frequency inverter

I specifically need a low frequency inverter to run high induction loads

The SI8.0 weighs 63kg, (Schneider 55kG) I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be that heavy if it didn't have a massive toroidal transformer in it, i.e. a low frequency inverter. It buzzes at 50 Hz too.
The power ratings are 6kW continuous, 8kW for 30 minutes, 9.1kW for 5 minutes, 9.6kW for 1 minute and 11kW for 3 seconds, which is pretty similar to the Schneider.
The SI has run any loads that I've tried with no issue, including fairly high starting current ones, though you don't say what you want to use.

Urge38 · May 3, 2023

SamG340 said:
But at £1,000~ for the biggest low frequency there

£1,500 for a victron multiplus might seem like a better option ?

Victron Energy MultiPlus II 48V 48/5000/70-50 Pure Sine Power Inverter Battery Charger - Low Energy Supermarket

The MultiPlus-II model 48v-5000-70-100 combines the functions of the MultiPlus and the MultiGrid. It has all the features of the MultiPlus, plus an external current transformer option to implement PowerControl and PowerAssist and to optimize self-consumption with external current sensing. It...

lowenergysupermarket.com

I am not convinced the Victron multiplus will do what I want it to do,
I need a inverter charger that can handle high inrush currents from inductive loads like air compressors, milling machines and lathes

Urge38 · May 3, 2023

billt1827 said:
The SI8.0 weighs 63kg, (Schneider 55kG) I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be that heavy if it didn't have a massive toroidal transformer in it, i.e. a low frequency inverter. It buzzes at 50 Hz too.
The power ratings are 6kW continuous, 8kW for 30 minutes, 9.1kW for 5 minutes, 9.6kW for 1 minute and 11kW for 3 seconds, which is pretty similar to the Schneider.
The SI has run any loads that I've tried with no issue, including fairly high starting current ones, though you don't say what you want to use.

I am with you on the weight, yes its a total give away to what's inside,

very good shout, only the Schneider can do 12000 watts

I am NOT a Schneider only buyer, I am happy to purchase anything that suits my needs, and I need a product that has the largest max wattage for inrush handling

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