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Headway 38120 HP 3.2v 8AH LiFePo4 Batteries

Saywatman

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Does anyone have any information on these batteries? They list the batteries at 8AH but they put out 200A? Can someone explain what they mean by this? Also, would they be good for a solar system. If so, would 4 batteries in parallel be 12.8v @ 200Amps / 2.4kw or 12.8v @ 8Amps / 96w? Thanks
 
They are cylindrical cells the HP is presumably high performance.
4 cells in series would give you an 8 amp hour battery with a nominal voltage of 12.8 volts.
13 of those in parrallel gives you a 104 amp hour battery.
That is 52 cells for 1331.2 watt hours.

38120 is the form factor.
 
Thanks for the reply. I’m sorry I meant to say “in series”. Why do they say the batteries are rated @ 200A? In your opinion, @ 10$ a piece would they be worth using for a 48v set up? Thanks
 
Thanks for the reply. I’m sorry I meant to say “in series”. Why do they say the batteries are rated @ 200A? In your opinion, @ 10$ a piece would they be worth using for a 48v set up? Thanks
The are referring to the discharge rate.
Thats the HP part.
They can discharge at 25c or so they claim.
You could use them for a 48 volt setup but I would only use them if you have a specific application that requires super high discharge rates.
Its just easier to make batteries out of high capacity prismatic cells.
Search the forums for Xuba to find the current value proposition.
What is your application?
 
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I’m getting ready to live off-grid, so every time I have some xtra money I add to my system. I live in the mountains on the Big Island of Hawai’i and want to build a good/ reliable system that will not run me broke. Thanks for the replies.
 
I would not use HP batteries for storage. I used those kind of Headways for an e bike project and they were great for short bursts of acceleration but a waste of money for long term storage. At $10 each and 25 Watts that is $.40 per Watt. Sorry for the late replay but I just joined the forum and am catching up on my reading.
 
Thank you Ampster, due to this pandemic, everything has been thrown on the “back burner” but it gives me time to do some research on a system that is dependable, and affordable. If you have anything you want to add, feel free to let me know.
 
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Thank you Ampster, due to this pandemic, everything has been thrown on the “back burner” but it gives me time to do some research on a system that is dependable, and affordable. If you have anything you want to add, feel free to let me know.
where can you get them for$10.00
 
I cycled tested a few at 40ah, they were able to sustain 40amps. But they warmed up to what I would consider being hot.
 
Thanks for the reply. I’m sorry I meant to say “in series”. Why do they say the batteries are rated @ 200A? In your opinion, @ 10$ a piece would they be worth using for a 48v set up? Thanks

What they mean is the cells have very low internal impedance and can discharge at a very high C rate.

The capacity is 8 AH. Which means discharge at 8A for one hour. Or 1A for 8 hours. Or 200A for 8 seconds (probably). Mathematically these cells should output 200A for a little over 2 minutes, but I wouldn't want to be anywhere near them if you actually tried to do this. And I bet they won't do that too many times.
 
High output for short bursts, those audio guys love that stuff, and pretty good for starting motors. It's not that you can't build bigger packs with these, it's just that the cost is significantly more than other options.
 
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