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    Chargery Issues

    understand. My installation makes that an impossible task without a rewiring. I find it surprisingly odd that the module has no legs to cool the underside. I had mine on a foam pad, which is now gone and the box propped up to get air under it.
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    Chargery Issues

    Yes I noticed that. I was on Chargery website and saw the 4.05 update. My update is 4.04 on both of them. I have yet to hook up the wifi but now that the problem is resolved its gaining importance. I was aware of the contact issue. Thank you
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    Chargery Issues

    @Steve_S @grizzzman @snoobler Follow up - Swapped the Bms modules this morning - problem did not follow. Started checking wiring and found the terminal screws loose at the shunt. Tightening them immediately lowered the diff voltage, balanced the charge amps and fixed the balance issue. I...
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    Chargery Issues

    Right on Grizzman but there is no turning these boards upside down. Taking your advice as I noticed them getting fairly warm yesterday. Hoping they produce more of that heat in the winter to keep the container from getting to cold
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    Chargery Issues

    I was taught that a dumb question doesn't exist, embarrassing maybe. Snooblers suggestion dropping the charge voltage to 27.4 seems to help, at least stopped charging before exceeding the 300mv diff. I have swapped the lcd panel first and that went batsit crazy - soc changed from 60% to 95% and...
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    Chargery Issues

    Thanks Steve, been there before you sent it. My float is set at 27.2 with charge volts at 27.6. Is it possible for the float to interfere with the balance? I ask because right around 27.2 volts the bms seems to go nutty - bounces from storage to charge to discharge, balance has no effect if it...
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    Chargery Issues

    Will try
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    Chargery Issues

    I did and it was but it all seems to go haywire at the top. Would this help lower the top end?
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    Chargery Issues

    @snoobler - besides swapping them, is it an option to lower the charge voltage to 27.2. It seems to be only at the very top that the differential runs away.
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    Chargery Issues

    Hi Snoobler. Just verified cell voltage with a dvm and all are within 1-2mv of the BMS. Cell #8 has been the problem - today its cell 7 peaking and tripping the BMS.
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    Chargery Issues

    Thank you Steve. The cells were top balanced first in series with the bms and then parallel. I did all the prep work before final assembly except for the q-tip and rubbing alcohol. It seems to be a problem more so at the top end of charge. I will disassemble the batteries, clean them and...
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    Chargery Issues

    Well thats just disheartening to read. And I suppose like me you bought them from China? Which makes them throw aways
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    Chargery Issues

    @Chargery Hi, I am using 2 Chargery BMS8T on 8S2P 3.2v Eve batteries. One appears to work fine while the other trips the DCC by exceeding the 300mv cell differential parameter or by cell overcharge. I have watched its operation for hours and observed the following: 1. The balance operation...
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    Chargery Fustration

    Glad you think so, I was concerned. If its functioning correctly, at least this module appears to be, than is it a faulty indicator to be ignored or possibly tied to controlling something else? I will connect the first module tomorrow
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    Chargery Fustration

    Thanks Snoobler. Mine also went thru All of the cells were between 3.29 and 3.36 when I got them. What you see is about 20 hours of charging at 10 amps, 29.2v.
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    Chargery Fustration

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    Chargery Fustration

    I don't know. I swapped boxes first thing this morning and it seems to be charging though the SOC is unadjustable and fixed between 98 and 100%. The other module was causing the power supply to cycle whenever the SOC hit 100%. It even had a high current alarm at 9.8 amps for 8 cells.
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    Chargery Fustration

    Hi Grizzman, thanks for responding.
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    Chargery Fustration

    Needing some help figuring out a chargery Bms. I'm in the process of a series precharge prior to a top balance. Following the manual everything seems to work fine untill I adjust the AH and WH. Its factory set at 20AH and 1000WH. I have 280AH at 7160WH. Once this parameter is set, the bms pegs...
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Thanks for looking at this Filterguy https://watts247.com/product/2-x-spf-3000tl-lvm-24p/
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Thank you Filterguy. Good info, knew I read it somewhere and I think it mentioned the breaker panel was the best spot. I will check my inverter. :)
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Yes, the dog bone jumpers the 2 hot circuits. Initially I was going to run a smaller system with a4000w/30a to my 50a RV. I wanted to reuse a 30' length of 8AWG 50a RV connection cable and was using a 30a-50a dog bone. But I increased to run the full 50a/6000w
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Speaking of isolation. I read that at some point for 240v, the ground and neutral should be bonded. Any suggestions Ampster?
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Are you 240v for an RV?
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    And presumably synchronized.
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    The Growatts can be paralleled in multiples including 3 phase. https://watts247.com/product/2-x-spf-3000tl-lvm-24p/
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Thank you Ampster. I have looked at several and keep coming back to something basic without bells and whistles, like Overkill. I have contemplated the Chargery but that's a little complex for me though I do prefer a screen instead of Wifi or bluetooth. Is Bluetooth required for your Overkill to...
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Well thank you Ampster but I'm not fooled by sales pitch. Just a question I asked the experts who have been doing this 10 years. So how do I figure out what BMS Is best for my system without spending big bucks? Doesn't the controller monitor the battery voltage and reduce charge as it...
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Good point. My understanding is split phase is not phase sensitive like 3 phase. What it gives me is 2 120v or 240v in a 4 prong connection. This is not grid tied. Any reduction in amps should just reduce load use. RV's can typically dogbone down to 30a or even 20a circuits. The RV has a auto...
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Understand and thank you. Are your 4S's in series or parallel? From what I understand, as the first battery is reaching a full SOC, the auto balance will continue to charge the weaker ones while reducing the charge on the high ones. I read that most BMS shut charging off to all cells as one...
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Is it important, for a newbee like me, to have a BMS with auto balance? Overkill mentions nothing of this feature
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Thanks Elton, I mean Rocketman. My load is not great, maybe 70-90 amps. The reason for 2 Inverters was to get the split phase/240v for a 50a connection to my RV. The charge current is max 160a using 2 80a/24v controllers with a maxed out solar array. And you are correct - The Overkill 4S is...
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    I'm sure that I am looking at this right and I appreciate your patience Filterman. With 2 BMS in series, like the drawing I attached, then the amps of the BMS don't combine. This drawings BMS is in series because of the way the batteries are connected, 12v/560a If 2 paralleled banks of batteries...
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    Thanks Rocketman, I should have given more info. I am installing 16 - 13.2v/280ah cells in a 24v system. 2 parallel 80a controllers and 2 parallel 3000w inverters. I am trying to determine what I need for a BMS and the best way to configure the batteries. The below drawing is from Overkill...
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    4S or 8S BMS?

    What are the pros and cons of connecting 8 battery cells in series or series/parallel? Is it solely for reducing the size of the BMS? Will a BMS with balance correction have problems with parallel? Seeing 2 batteries as one? Is it advisable to use one 8S BMS with 2 battery banks or 2 4S BMS...
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