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svetz
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If Florida hadn't outlawed offshore Wind turbines, could their Hurricanes Power the World?
Q: In an average year, how many hurricanes hit Florida and hypothetically calculate, based on their average power, what percentage of the world's power could it supply?
On average, Florida experiences about 3 hurricanes per year1.
Now, let’s consider the energy of these hurricanes. A typical mature hurricane generates about 1.5 x 10^12 Watts or 1.3 x 10^17 Joules/day2. This is just the energy generated by the winds. If we include the energy released through the formation of clouds and rain, the total energy of a hurricane can be as high as 6.0 x 10^14 Watts or 5.2 x 10^19 Joules/day2.
Assuming that all hurricanes hitting Florida are “typical” hurricanes and that we could theoretically harness all of their energy with 100% efficiency, the total energy from these hurricanes would be:
- Energy per hurricane per day: 5.2 x 10^19 Joules/day
- Energy per hurricane per year: 5.2 x 10^19 Joules/day x 365 days/year = 1.898 x 10^24 Joules/year
- Total energy from 3 hurricanes per year: 1.898 x 10^24 Joules/year x 3 = 5.694 x 10^24 Joules/year
- Global energy consumption: 23,966 TWh/year x 3.6 x 10^15 Joules/TWh = 8.6276 x 10^22 Joules/year
- Percentage = (5.694 x 10^24 Joules/year / 8.6276 x 10^22 Joules/year) x 100% = 660%
Q: can you draw me a photorealistic image of an imaginary windfarm in a cat 3 generating power for the world?
OffGridForGood
Catch, make or grow everything you can.
LOL 
"Works in theory, in practice that's something else"!!! - sorry couldn't resist.
"Works in theory, in practice that's something else"!!! - sorry couldn't resist.
Quattrohead
Solar Wizard
You know the human answer would be "fuck off that ain't happening" 
svetz
Works in theory! Practice? That's something else
No, it was a crazy question. I was a little disappointed, it should have used the lower figure (1.3 x 10^17 Joules/day) for just wind and capped out with the theoretical limit (Betz's law) around 50%. So, at most 95% of the world's annual needs. 660% is just crazy! ; -)LOL
"Works in theory, in practice that's something else"!!! - sorry couldn't resist.
Why not? Other than the new law turning you into an outlaw if you try and needing new materials or techniques to harvest winds at hurricane speeds (magnus turbine?)? ; -)You know the human answer would be "fuck off that ain't happening"
svetz
Works in theory! Practice? That's something else
Hah! Leading question, based on the presumption it's destroyed ... so it can't be hurricane proof.
But could they be designed to not be destroyed? There's a solution to every problem out there, sometimes there are solutions without problems!
Q: can a magnus wind turbine survive hurricane force winds?
AI: Yes, a Magnus wind turbine can potentially withstand hurricane-force winds. The Magnus effect-based wind turbine is a type of Airborne Wind Energy (AWE) system that uses a rotating cylinder to provide aerodynamic lift1. This design allows the turbine to manage changes in wind direction without significantly affecting lift and drag vector magnitudes1.
A Tokyo-based start-up called Challenergy has designed a wind turbine specifically engineered to operate in typhoon-prone areas2. Their design is robust and aims to provide reliable electricity even in areas where electricity is scarce2.
However, it’s important to note that while these designs can help turbines survive hurricanes, they may not be completely “hurricane-proof” as extreme weather conditions can still cause damage. It’s always recommended to consult with professionals when planning to install wind turbines in hurricane-prone areas.
OffGridForGood
Catch, make or grow everything you can.
So what you're saying is, AI is overly Optimistic?
What if the design were fashioned to funnel wind into a concrete bunker, with heavy doors that can be controlled to limit the air volume entering the concrete bunker, such that the actual wind turbine is enclosed inside - more like a squirrel cage design rather than blades. The bunker and doors are designed to take the brunt of the force, and limit what the turbine inside the bunker is ever exposed to. Could be done. Won't be cheap!
svetz
Works in theory! Practice? That's something else
More like amusing at times.... as to your design... I think you have the right approach in thinking about the economics!
How do we know this is svetz
?After all, you’re not actually paranoid…… if they’re really out to get you
svetz
Works in theory! Practice? That's something else
You don't. But if it's funny, does anyone really care?How do we know this is svetz
Some people obviously do care, e.g., if Biden/Trump say something some will hate it even if it is common sense and some will love it no matter how stupid it is. Well, it's hard to judge the first case since that never happens.
This will cheer you up. They don't actually want you. It's your money they're after.After all, you’re not actually paranoid…… if they’re really out to get you
The FBC (Florida Building Code, based off ASME) mandates construction to survive ~150 mph (so, in the range of a cat4) and Miami-Dade county is more stringent. So, let's ask an AI:
Q: how does the cost of housing in florida compare with other states
AI: The cost of housing in Florida is generally higher than the national average. Here are some key points:
- The typical home in Florida is valued 14% higher than the typical U.S. home1.
- The median home value in Florida is around $300,000, which is higher than the national average of $280,0002.
In Florida most insurers have pulled out. However, you can get home, wind, and flood insurance, the last two courtesy of programs like (NFIP). Costs depend on where you live, age of home, and how much they think they can gouge you for. We hear it's ~1.4% the value of you home per year (~$4,200 for a 300k home) with high (5% deductibles, e.g., $15,000). If they run out of money they charge you an assessment so they don't run out. No refund if there are no hurricanes, go figure. You can't get wind insurance unless you have flood insurance. Where we live flood insurance is way overpriced as the things it covers (e.g., fixing foundation problems replacing things like submerged air-conditioning compressors) don't apply here as there's no soil in the ground to swell and damage the foundation and the FBC mandates things like flood vents and won't let you put anything electrical below the flood plane).
On the up side we don't need earthquake or mud-slide insurance. Asteroid and damage from orbital debris is generally covered in the basic home-owners. Our Car insurance premiums seem pretty high ... let's ask an AI:
Q: can you show me a table of average car insurance rates by state? show Florida and the states with the highest and lowest costs.
AI:
| State | Average Annual Cost for Full Coverage |
|---|---|
| Florida | $4,3261 |
| Idaho (Lowest) | $1,0211 |
| New York (Highest) | $4,7691 |
That's probably fair, as a tourist destination we attract the worst drivers from around the world! And, well, Miami drivers.... ; -)
So, come visit Florida, I'm covered!
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HalfBaked
Ever the student
It seems the ai doesn't know where to put the comma between hundreds and thousands. Or otherwise, why the extra digit at the end of those?
Quattrohead
Solar Wizard
AI is like that annoying friend or stranger you meet on an airplane, they have to be right whether they are right or not and just repeating stuff or making it more and more complicated is the only way they know to sound right even when they're wrong
svetz
Works in theory! Practice? That's something else
My bad. It's my cut paste, the digit at the end isn't a part of the number, it's a "footnote" link. I can't superscript them on these forums AFAIK, but I edited the post to subscript them. That won't confuse anyone, right? ; -)
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