Gas generators to be banned in USA

[offgriddave]

The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has proposed a policy (pdf) that would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market. The new rule restricts the amount of carbon monoxide that generators can emit by forcing these generators to switch off when they reach a certain level of emissions.


Smaller gas generators would have to cut carbon monoxide emissions by 50 percent, and larger generators would have to cut emissions by up to 95 percent. Nearly all models currently available are expected to not be in compliance with the new standard.

Once the proposed rules come into effect, manufacturers would have to comply with them in just six months, a process that usually takes several years. The rules would also ban manufacturers from stockpiling noncompliant generators before the new standards are enacted.

Biden Administration Rule Would Ban Nearly All Portable Gas-Powered Generators

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[Q-Dog]

It's just a proposal ... Nothing has been decided.

 

[BoloMKXXVIII]

Haven't used my gas generator in 5 years. Other than an annual test run and servicing, it just sits there. Every outage we have had has been covered by my solar/battery/inverter setup.

 

[JRH]

It's just a proposal ... Nothing has been decided.

Storm clouds usually precede the storm…

 

[Sanwizard]

The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has proposed a policy (pdf) that would remove nearly all existing portable gas generators from the market. The new rule restricts the amount of carbon monoxide that generators can emit by forcing these generators to switch off when they reach a certain level of emissions.


Smaller gas generators would have to cut carbon monoxide emissions by 50 percent, and larger generators would have to cut emissions by up to 95 percent. Nearly all models currently available are expected to not be in compliance with the new standard.

Once the proposed rules come into effect, manufacturers would have to comply with them in just six months, a process that usually takes several years. The rules would also ban manufacturers from stockpiling noncompliant generators before the new standards are enacted.

Biden Administration Rule Would Ban Nearly All Portable Gas-Powered Generators

www.theepochtimes.com

When did the US become a communist country, where the government dictates which products you can or cannot purchase?
Light bulbs, gas ovens, cars, lawnmowers, generators.... the "free market" is now an illusion. Only capitalism can bring down prices based on competition. Central planning taxing, and control is what we fought England over.
Just like Will Smith riding a motorcycle in I Robot, only a gas engine can set you free from control.

 

[KITROBASKIN]

What about all you propane generator people?

"Propane is considered a “clean-burning” fuel, as it produces less pollutants than diesel and gasoline. Specifically, it produces only half as much carbon monoxide (CO) as gasoline. If fumes or pollution is a concern, propane is a good energy source to choose."

Benefits and Drawbacks of Propane as Generator Fuel Source - Midwest Generator Solutions

Propane is one of several fuels that power standby generators. Learn eight benefits and three drawbacks of propane as a generator fuel source.

midwestgeneratorsolutions.com

 

[SolarScott]

The greenie weenies need to be put in a solar oven......

 

[ampsarus]

California is leading the way, just like seat belts and emission controls in cars. All small ICE power equipment is in the books to be phased out and banned for sale. Lawnmowers, generators, leaf blowers, chain saws, everything.

 

[Lorryist]

Allow generators, ban the use of carburetors. Fuel injection was the future 50 years ago.

 

[MrM1]

California is leading the way ...

? That's an interesting way to phrase it.

 

[rhino]

Federal Register :: Request Access

Based on information provided by manufacturers and in market research, staff estimates a 30 percent compliance rate with PGMA G300's sensor and shutoff requirements as of 2022. One sixth of those PGMA-compliant units (or 5 percent of the total) are estimated to also be compliant with the emissions requirements of UL 2201.

Safety is very difficult to achieve without standards since there usually is not a lot of incentive when customers usually regard price above all else.

Should also be noted there were estimated 23,000+ injuries in USA from CO poisoning from portable generators during 2004-2021 and over 1300 deaths.

It was estimated the cost increase to make compliant generators to be 3%.

 

[Skypower]

When did the US become a communist country, where the government dictates which products you can or cannot purchase?

When the government created agencies that don’t answer the people and don’t have people that are elected to those positions. They literally make laws and regulations without any legislative branch.

 

[ampsarus]

Allow generators, ban the use of carburetors. Fuel injection was the future 50 years ago.

I'm glad I have my EFI Honda 7000, I won't be able to buy another one in California.

 

[ampsarus]

I laugh when I see advertisements for ECO electric leaf blowers that tout 560 CFM, "more power than gas"
My 80cc Husky 580 has a 4" duct and blows over 900 CFM. Nope, no longer for sale in CA.

 

[dstar]

It's just a proposal ... Nothing has been decided.

It's a pattern. They're looking to remove anything and everything powered by gas.
Cheap energy and products that use it are a requirement to keep a certain standard of living in modern fist world countries.
These people are extreme in their views and have no problem imposing hardships and a reduced standard of living on the middle class.

The ability of these agencies to impose their will on us needs to be rolled back or abolished completely. It's out of control and completely at odds with how things should function in America.

 

[SamDeleted]

Haven't used my gas generator in 5 years. Other than an annual test run and servicing, it just sits there. Every outage we have had has been covered by my solar/battery/inverter setup.

Nice to have the right to own one though!

 

[SamDeleted]

during 2004-2021 and over 1300 deaths.

And that is called natural selection, if you can't figure out how to use a generator without gassing yourself, maybe it's for the best for humanity as a whole that you DON'T pass on your genetics lol !



Anyway that's 1,300 over 15yrs , less than 100 a year . Aren't ladders more dangerous than that ? They should ban ladders too ! (oh wait already did that in the UK ?)

 

[SamDeleted]

Anyway that's 1,300 over 15yrs , less than 100 a year . Aren't ladders more dangerous than that ? They should ban ladders too ! (oh wait already did that in the UK ?)

Yep , ladders are over 3 times more dangerous, 300 deaths a year

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[dstar]

And that is called natural selection, if you can't figure out how to use a generator without gassing yourself, maybe it's for the best for humanity as a whole that you DON'T pass on your genetics lol !



Anyway that's 1,300 over 15yrs , less than 100 a year . Aren't ladders more dangerous than that ? They should ban ladders too ! (oh wait already did that in the UK ?)

Believe it or not this is true. I have no problems with safety tests and certain safety standards. But you can't legislate away every accident or act of stupidity.

With Freedom comes responsibility. Shit happens and will always happen.

 

[SamDeleted]

Believe it or not this is true. I have no problems with safety tests and certain safety standards. But you can't legislate away every accident or act of stupidity.

With Freedom comes responsibility. Shit happens and will always happen.

Yea things shouldn't be allowed to be deliberately dangerous in the name of 'freedom' , I guess the line has to be drawn somewhere