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seneysolar
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Not sure about Oregon but here in Michigan, our winters are terrible for solar. Dark gray overcast for weeks straight. Lucky to get 100watts out of a 2000watt array. Batteries would be dead by tomorrow if trying to heat with it.
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zanydroid
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Yes, the places that need the most heat, also get the least sun in the winter
Pretty hard to be fully self sufficient with just solar if you are that far north… need to like harvest wood or something and have a low enough population. Or import fuel. Animals and birds migrate for a reason. I don’t even think perfect seasonal energy storage will be enough.
zanydroid
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Producing 10% more on a terrible base / poor available sunlight is not a game changer
robbob2112
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You may want to learn a bit more before buying the inverter from anyone local. Check current connected's website or signature solar. The Sol-Ark inverters are generally good and reliable.
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Make sure any proposal lists the model number of the inverter he wants to install. Then you can see what the go for.
If you are staying grid tied there will be a lot more involved to get things up to snuff that the solar guy can do easy.
For you piles of dirt and refuse they may be wanting to take samples for chemical contamination as well as other hazardous wastes. If they are staying they won't want that seeping into the ground. Worst case they find something and require it be hauled by someone licenced to handle it to a hazardous waste disposal site. If they don't have a requirement to get a permit to haul it off you might be better off getting rid of it.
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Make sure any proposal lists the model number of the inverter he wants to install. Then you can see what the go for.
If you are staying grid tied there will be a lot more involved to get things up to snuff that the solar guy can do easy.
For you piles of dirt and refuse they may be wanting to take samples for chemical contamination as well as other hazardous wastes. If they are staying they won't want that seeping into the ground. Worst case they find something and require it be hauled by someone licenced to handle it to a hazardous waste disposal site. If they don't have a requirement to get a permit to haul it off you might be better off getting rid of it.
seneysolar
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Makes no sense. If you hired an electrician to get you hooked to grid power, they would deny a permit based on the garbage out back???
They didn't have any requirements for the building wiring itself or actual repairs?
They didn't have any requirements for the building wiring itself or actual repairs?
250w panels have been the mainstay of Australian installs for decades- my uncles place (built for the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games, to house the athletes and officials and sold off afterwards to private buyers) has 12x 250w panels on the roof (3kw)- even the system at my old place I was living which had a brand new system installed in 2016 was only using 22x 270W panels (6kw)...
It's only been the last few years that panels bigger than 300w have been used (and many smaller companies still stay under that 300W level- simply because panels larger than that are a '2 man per panel' install, where the smaller panels can be safely carried by one person- so although the panels are cheaper per watt in the bigger panels- your installation costs go up over the smaller ones... (twice the people needed, heavier lifting gear etc all drive up the price over the minimal savings you get with the using the larger panels over the smaller ones...)
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robbob2112
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Shrug, you can try to fight city hall or you can hire a crew and clean the place up.
If you choose to fight city hall I hope you have deep pockets. If they do any one of a number of things like declaring it a blight and seizing it as part of eminent domain, report it to the EPA so you have to pay for cleanup and monitoring wells to make sure the soil isn't leaking chemicals into the water. And good luckgetting it rezoned residential if you intend to live there. Sure seems pretty and green for industrial zoning.
If you clean the place up and dispose of the trash you can work with them and install a system like you want.
Big problem of course is you didn’t get the prior owner to clean it up as a condition of sale. A Senior Chief Petty Officer in the Navy once told me, trade ot take anything excep for Hazmat, never take that because then you gotta figure out how to dispose of it
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If you choose to fight city hall I hope you have deep pockets. If they do any one of a number of things like declaring it a blight and seizing it as part of eminent domain, report it to the EPA so you have to pay for cleanup and monitoring wells to make sure the soil isn't leaking chemicals into the water. And good luckgetting it rezoned residential if you intend to live there. Sure seems pretty and green for industrial zoning.
If you clean the place up and dispose of the trash you can work with them and install a system like you want.
Big problem of course is you didn’t get the prior owner to clean it up as a condition of sale. A Senior Chief Petty Officer in the Navy once told me, trade ot take anything excep for Hazmat, never take that because then you gotta figure out how to dispose of it
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HighDesertOffgrid
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You have existing solar infrastructure on the property. Now that you have invited vampires across the threshold, are they requiring you to remove the existing panels? Are they requiring you to have electricity on the property?
robbob2112
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Put up solar without their permit and they will fine you per day until you take it down. I do agree with you that they have no business permitting off grid unless they look at it as a fire danger to others.
The inspector should have to site rules you are breaking that are the reason to not allow the grid permit. IMO when I it comes to AHJ you have to know the rules and play by them no matter how ridiculous if you want to get things done.
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HighDesertOffgrid
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Or use the existing 6kw that is ready to go...
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I expect that building is/was condemned and is the primary source of your problems. I still hold it is highly unusual to require a permit to repair and existing system, but you did ask for permission. Hopefully a learning experience.
Or use the existing 6kw that is ready to go...
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seneysolar
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Dang, i wish you didnt. Its important for folks to learn the process, picky inspectors are part of it. Reviving an old abandoned system ---I was looking forward to a success story.
robbob2112
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I agree, leave the thread. I expect highdesert is right, if the building is condemed around here it would require a permit to take all the debris to a waste dump. The aftermath of a fire leaves all sorts of hazmat to dispose of. It could be the inspector thoight the dirt piles are from demolition vs just dumping.
Then any new/repaired structure would require a building permit and inspection before they would permit electrical.
Then any new/repaired structure would require a building permit and inspection before they would permit electrical.
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I was hoping to see an emerging DIYer...
Ahh, I'm sorry. Everyone is just hung up on my government and not comprehending how they are behaving and seems that's the topic for everyone. I am already talking about that constantly with electrician's, upcoming commissioner's, other county inspectors, friends, etc. etc, and I didn't want to go over all of their antics in here too. Because, it makes my blood boil, and I find myself going off on tangents about it because it's so f'ing infuriating and corrupt it's sickening. I'm not going to bow down to these dictating pricks, I'm not going to ask permission for something that was already approved and already there. I'm certainly not going to ask permission from this over reaching prick that doesn't have the right to do what he's doing anyways.... I will bite my nose off to spite my face, because I will stand on principle and principle alone. There is right, and there is wrong. This guy I've found out used to work for DEQ and had an authority over reach problem there also. I'm working on that shitshow, on the side, and while I appreciate everyone's comments, 'easier to work with them than against them', etc., while it's all in good intent, that makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit. I will work against them until my dying day. I will not cower or bend over for them like everyone else does. If more people in this world had a damn backbone and would stand up to tyranny, this world would be such a better place. These people do this crap because no one has the balls to stand up to them. It's absurd. Sigh........... see? Lol. I lose composure.
I decided I'm just going to get an inverter, splice in some wires that they cut, put the fuses back in and hope shit doesn't blow up.
42OhmsPA
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It's frustrating when this happens to threads. I was following along to lots of good discussion here.
I would have wired the existing panels up to an AIO, added some batteries and called it a day...
I would have wired the existing panels up to an AIO, added some batteries and called it a day...
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