Did you actually read it. The number actually given is redacted but we know in the US alone they were giving about millions of shots per day. So this is for all the Pfizer shots given worldwide during a three month period. The report clearly states that up front. The report also clearly says that reported events are not determined to have been caused by the vaccine. This is information collection like the Vaccine monitoring system run in the US. These are worldwide numbers relating to the vaccine. Out of hundreds of millions of doses given there were 42000 adverse event reports. Now if in the days of weeks following vaccine someone dies of a heart attack or even Covid that could be reported as an adverse event. These incidents especially the worst ones are then investigated both by the manufacturer and regulatory agency of the government where it occurred. If you actually did read the report you would see the investigations were performed and no significant safety events occurred. I think you are reading this as 42000 people were given the vaccine and 1223 died due to the vaccine. That is not what it says. No one died due to the vaccine.
Possible increase of heart attack risk after mRNA vaccine.
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Bob B
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Wrong again .... I never argued to discontinue vaccination .... don't you get tired making things up?
That is probably redacted as proprietary information but we could recreate that number. We know the countries and the time period, and the individual countries were reporting numbers of vaccines given. It will be hundreds of millions.
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I'm going from memory .... but I think they said somewhere in the report that the adverse events reported were greater or equal to 2% of people being vaccinated.
That is a reference to the percentage of the reported events, not the doses given. They footnote and say of the events reported the categories that constituted more than 2% of the events are————-and then they list them.
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What I was remembering was the table on page 8 .... I guess it shows the most common type of events .... it's not relative to the number of vaccines administered.
Sure wish they hadn't redacted that number.
NO! A man has got to know his limitations.
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I did just notice that this data is just up to February 2021 ..... isn't that pretty early in the emergency release period?
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Earlier this year I looked at the VAERS death reports and compared to number shots which had been delivered.
Day of shot, reported deaths were 2x the US average death rate. By a couple days later, death rate reported to VAERS was far below background death rate.
But as for day of shot, deaths were 1x the rate expected for the geriatric set who were focus of initial vaccination effort.
Some of the vaccines have caused statistically significant increase in some morbidities, and some types of fatalities. But overall, there isn't a signal that vaccines have increased death significantly. Certainly not by any where near the rate they have reduced Covid deaths.
(unless one scales down official Covid deaths to 6% of what's reported, and counts all VAERS deaths as caused by vaccine and scales them up 100x due to underreporting.)
Death rate by age and sex in the U.S. 2020 | Statista
In the United States in 2020, the death rate was highest among those aged 85 and over, with about 16,354.9 men and 14,560 women per 100,000 of the population passing away.
www.statista.com
Yes I think this was the first three months.
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BTW, I had actually kind of wanted to get Covid-19 myself, because I wanted to experience it (get my own antibodies naturally), and I just found out the sick I got on Thanksgiving turned out I was Covid-19 positive, so I'm glad I can say I finally got it and am mostly over it now. I'm still coughing a little flem once in awhile, and my sinuses make my voice sound a little funny still, but no more fever symptoms or anything. I can say it wasn't bad at all for me. It wasn't near as bad as the whooping cough I had several years ago, that was so much worse for me than this Covid thing.
I will probably go get an antibody test in a few weeks and see what it looks like...
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Logic does not matter to conspiracy theorists. For example I pointed out that if the vaccine was as bad as covid, 3 million Americans would have died from the vaccine and the incompetent Biden administration is competent enough to hide those numbers.
Posting links to news paper articles of instances where prominent anti vaxxers die, are dismissed as manipulated.
They are not dumb, no one here would think of attempting to do diy solar if they weren't smarter than average. And I have seen the same problems with flat earthers, climate change deniers, young earth creationists, etc. They are just going to get increasingly angry because the facts don't agree with their believes.
There is no indication that the vaccines are not safe, but people are afraid of taking action, like deer caught in the headlights. Any hint, perceived or real, will cause them to not take the vaccine and then try to justify their fear.
Posting links to news paper articles of instances where prominent anti vaxxers die, are dismissed as manipulated.
They are not dumb, no one here would think of attempting to do diy solar if they weren't smarter than average. And I have seen the same problems with flat earthers, climate change deniers, young earth creationists, etc. They are just going to get increasingly angry because the facts don't agree with their believes.
There is no indication that the vaccines are not safe, but people are afraid of taking action, like deer caught in the headlights. Any hint, perceived or real, will cause them to not take the vaccine and then try to justify their fear.
I know a husband and wife who both got covid earlier this year, the wife nearly died and is still recovering at home 9 months later, but only occasionally needs supplemental oxygen now. Her husband on the other hand had no symptoms at all. It all effects us differently...
I am glad you are one of the 98% of the people who got covid and did not die. And I am glad it wasn't severe as patients who survive severe Covid are more than twice as likely to die over the following year than those who remain uninfected or experience milder virus symptoms. The vaccines would have carried even less risk for you and you would not have been infectious and there would have been no need to quarantine.
COVID-19 Post-acute Sequelae Among Adults: 12 Month Mortality Risk
Background: There are concerns regarding post-acute sequelae of COVID-19, but it is unclear whether COVID-19 poses a significant downstream mortality risk. The objective was to determine the relationship between COVID-19 infection and 12-month mortality after recovery from the initial episode of...
Man Who Went To COVID Party Dies From the Virus
Some young people are deliberately attempting to catch COVID-19 in order to build immunity from the virus, an official has said.
www.newsweek.com
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The Amarican Heart association themselves put the “concern” label on their own article because the original author had concealed that only anecdotal “data” was used among other problems.
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It's pretty obvious that data will not be read .... and people are going to think what they are going to think .... I've got many more important things to do, so I'm going to drop out of this thread.
If there is a major break thru of any type .... someone message me.
If there is a major break thru of any type .... someone message me.
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I know a husband and wife who both got covid earlier this year, the wife nearly died and is still recovering at home 9 months later, but only occasionally needs supplemental oxygen now. Her husband on the other hand had no symptoms at all. It all effects us differently...
I am glad you are one of the 98% of the people who got covid and did not die. And I am glad it wasn't severe as patients who survive severe Covid are more than twice as likely to die over the following year than those who remain uninfected or experience milder virus symptoms. The vaccines would have carried even less risk for you and you would not have been infectious and there would have been no need to quarantine.
COVID-19 Post-acute Sequelae Among Adults: 12 Month Mortality Risk
Background: There are concerns regarding post-acute sequelae of COVID-19, but it is unclear whether COVID-19 poses a significant downstream mortality risk. The objective was to determine the relationship between COVID-19 infection and 12-month mortality after recovery from the initial episode of...www.frontiersin.org
Man Who Went To COVID Party Dies From the Virus
Some young people are deliberately attempting to catch COVID-19 in order to build immunity from the virus, an official has said.
Thanks for wishing me well my friend...
Like I've told many people, many times, I'm not afraid to die from it, I believe in an afterlife. I don't even care if it causes permanent effects or whatever, I'm not going to live in fear of it, we will all die someday anyways. Living fearfully makes Earth a living hell.
I have a friend who just died a couple months ago of Covid, he left 5 kids and a wife behind. I'm glad I don't have kids right now, it could change the whole way I view my own choices, couldn't say 100%, it's sad those kids will grow up the rest of life without their first Dad, I don't have all the answers, all I can say is that I put my trust in my creator...
In '94, my real Dad died young at age 47 of Lymphoma cancer, and my Mom remarried to a great step-Dad, life still worked out great for her and us kids, he is a great Dad too. Humans always seem to figure out a way back to happiness again.
I just know that I don't want to vaccinate, one of many reasons being, I don't trust Western medicine nor putting any 'ol thing someone says I should take into my body/ bloodstream 'just to be safe', my default answer is no (I'll take my chances), I don't default to yes.
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Samsonite reread your post. You view this as a choice between living in fear and living life. Two things: 1. Your focus is completely on yourself. What of your neighbors. You speak of your creator. What did he command of how you care for your neighbor. 2. Getting a shot takes 20-30 minutes tops and it is free. How is that not living? Such a simple thing to do? And if you won’t get the shot. Why? Is it fear? You said above you did not fear being disabled or dying. Those things won’t happen from the vaccine.Thanks for wishing me well my friend...
Like I've told many people, many times, I'm not afraid to die from it, I believe in an afterlife. I don't even care if it causes permanent effects or whatever, I'm not going to live in fear of it, we will all die someday anyways. Living fearfully makes Earth a living hell.
I have a friend who just died a couple months ago of Covid, he left 5 kids and a wife behind. I'm glad I don't have kids right now, it could change the whole way I view my own choices, couldn't say 100%, it's sad those kids will grow up the rest of life without their first Dad, I don't have all the answers, all I can say is that I put my trust in my creator...
In '94, my real Dad died young at age 47 of Lymphoma cancer, and my Mom remarried to a great step-Dad, life still worked out great for her and us kids, he is a great Dad too. Humans always seem to figure out a way back to happiness again.
I just know that I don't want to vaccinate, one of many reasons being, I don't trust Western medicine nor putting any 'ol thing someone says I should take into my body/ bloodstream 'just to be safe', my default answer is no (I'll take my chances), I don't default to yes.
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No, of course you didn't. You pointed out what you thought was evidence of 1223 deaths from the Pfizer covid vaccine, then on a completely unrelated random note , said that swine flu vaccine was discontinued after 25 deaths. It was completely unreasonable of me to think you mentioned those two things together because you thought they were related. Copy and pasting from antivax sites can be confusing when you don't research what you are pasting.
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There is a virus with your name on it. This isn't, If I get thru a couple months I won't have to worry about it. This will be here forever. It is only a matter of time. It will eventually find you.