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EVE 280 Ah from Shenzen Basen are not "brand new" as advertised

i bought 16cell lishen from basen in 12/2020, all very good 0.13mOhm and no need to balance @ 3.5V avg per cell, no top balanced.
no need to balance at 3V avg per cell (DV = 5mV).
I have 4cell at home without bms since 7month, delta V is < 10mV!
I hope receiving same quality from other seller next month
 
I warned strongly about Shenzen Basen months ago...

Some of these jokers are deep into Basen. This should be a sticky and there should be a bad vendor's list. Basen and one of these jokers is holding up my build.
 
One of the Jokers may be the Global supply chain. Go to any port and see the container ships waiting to unload. That delay is affecting everyone.
I bought my batteries from a guy in Harrisonburg, VA who was selling them out of his trailer. I was the only person who had a bad cell according to him. Same response from Gloria Luo at Basen. I just now asked him where can I buy a replacement cell. The Sound of Silence. The cell I want replaced tested 0.813v and had never been used and was manufactured in April 2021. It has been charging with a bench charger for 48 hours and it is up to 3.3v. Is that normal? I really don't know.
 
3.3 is the normal resting voltage. Do you know how many Amp hours you put in it? That will tell you the capacity.
All I know is that I started at the beginning of the week at 1.3A to get to 3.29v and now it is charging at 2.6A and the cell is at 3.365v per multi-meter. I don't think it is supposed to take this long to get to 3.55A which is what my bench charger is set to. The whole friggin solar project is on hold; a dime holding up a dollar.
 
All I know is that I started at the beginning of the week at 1.3A to get to 3.29v and now it is charging at 2.6A and the cell is at 3.365v per multi-meter. I don't think it is supposed to take this long to get to 3.55A which is what my bench charger is set to.

If the cell is completely discharged, you need to put 280Ah in. At 3A (best case in your situation) that means almost 4 days. Are you using those crocodile clamps and wires that came with the supply? That would explain your low current. Replace them with ring terminals and proper gauge wire and it should go to the max current your supply can output.
That said, a cell at 0.813V is a cell that would be severely discharged and I would consider dead. Even completely depleted, LiFePO4 shouldn't go below 2.5V.
 
One of the Jokers may be the Global supply chain. Go to any port and see the container ships waiting to unload. That delay is affecting everyone.
Ordered cells in mid March from Amy. She got them out just as Shenzhen was shutting down. Just arrived this Monday.
 
This puts me up to 3 48V 280Ah batteries, more than enough to power my house for 3 days if only critical loads are used.

I have room in the big cabinet for 2 more probably.
 
I'm currently planning on 3 48 x 304Ah batteries, to start with. And see if I can go 3 days, also.
 
If the cell is completely discharged, you need to put 280Ah in. At 3A (best case in your situation) that means almost 4 days. Are you using those crocodile clamps and wires that came with the supply? That would explain your low current. Replace them with ring terminals and proper gauge wire and it should go to the max current your supply can output.
That said, a cell at 0.813V is a cell that would be severely discharged and I would consider dead. Even completely depleted, LiFePO4 shouldn't go below 2.5V.
I changed the charger leads to 8 AWG and lugs and charged at 10A to 3.57v. I removed the leads and tested today; the cell dropped to 3.31v within a couple of days with no load. Do I really have to spend $300 for a new charger to charge at 40A? Should the local seller reimburse me?
 
Seems to me that it didn't get absorption charge, and just settled to 3.31v
Did you remove the charge when it reached 3.57, or did you leave it charging for a while at 3.57 ?
 
I am not clear why your cell discharged like it did? Are you saying it self discharged? Or was it a runner that went low when the pack was discharged?
I charged it as a single cell and after the cell sat for a couple of days it lost the charge. Definitely not storing power; maybe a good paper weight. I removed the leads after it reached 3.57v; don't know how long it sat at 3.57v, at most a couple of hours. Is that $300 charger with 40A necessary for a 16 cell battery?
I think the cell is toast; I'm going to hook up a 8s2p 24v BMS today and get as far as I can with top balancing.
 
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I think that you stopped charging too soon.
It didn't get a full charge. Or at least a saturation at 3.57v
3.31 is exactly what I would expect from doing that.
 
Seems to me that it didn't get absorption charge, and just settled to 3.31v
I don't think a lot of power goes into Lithium batteries during the time the current tapers while in Absorb stage. I only charge to 3.45 volts and my cells settle to 3.3 volts. Even the few days I don't get enough power to complete a full charge, mine settle at 3.3 volts.
 
I don't think a lot of power goes into Lithium batteries during the time the current tapers while in Absorb stage. I only charge to 3.45 volts and my cells settle to 3.3 volts. Even the few days I don't get enough power to complete a full charge, mine settle at 3.3 volts.
No, it's not a lot of power. But without the absorption, it will settle. Settling to 3.31 isn't what I would call abnormal. Given the way it was charged.
 
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