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wsaharem

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Posting my first pictures of a couple of Stacked Rosies. (no solar yet, just whole house battery) I nervously turn off the AC Input to run the puppies on Battery. I saw a slight dip in lights, but everything kept running WooHoo!. But, I still cannot figure out how to get the second Rosie to wake up and feed either DC or AC. (working with Midnite support).

2 48V 304Ah batteries using JKBMS JK-PB2A16S20P for a total of 29kWh of usable power.

Lots and lots of configuration for both the batteries and the Rosies. (still tuning) Thanks to everyone who provided 48V / 16s JKBMS notes.

I ordered my Rosies early Jan, and the ePanels are still not available, so I DIY my own. For each Rosie, I have the 300A breaker from BlueSea, 1 60A for AC Input, and 1 60A Output breaker / Transfer switch the critical load panel also has 60A dual pole breakers for input for each Rosie. Working with 6awg wires in a confined space is a nightmare.

My ChargeVerter can run on either AC or Generator as it's plugged into the main breaker box with a generator interlock. (good for testing without the generator) Rosie showed lower draw on the batteries when I turned on the ChargeVerter and the Batteries also started showing charging, with no hiccups on either.

Battery configuration on the Rosie is:
Absorb 55.2V
Absorb Time: 2:50
Float 54.8V
Float Time 24:00
EQ (not used for Lifepo4)

When I first turned off AC on the Rosies breaker, I turned on a 5 ton AC, a 24000BTU MiniSplit, an air fryer at 400f, a heat gun on full heat, all the lights on the first floor, all the ceiling fans and all the bathroom fans and 3 computers. Initially the Rosie was showing an 8300W draw (greater than it's advertised 7kW continuous) and the fans didn't kick on until about 5 minutes in. Unfortunately the 2nd Rosie never woke up. (also didn't wake up with I turned on bulk charging) But was really nice to see that both batteries were drawing, and the Rosie was showing a 160A draw on 1 4/0 cable. (Rosie can handle 300A and the BMS can handle 200A, so neither was breaking a sweat yet.)
 

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In parallel, does 2nd Rosie sleep until power draw is higher?

How about repeating the experiment with 1st Rosie shut off? (If they are told to be Master & slave, obviously you'll have to reconfigure which is which.)

Then crank up the load, to where both are needed. Like 10kW+
 
In parallel, does 2nd Rosie sleep until power draw is higher?

How about repeating the experiment with 1st Rosie shut off? (If they are told to be Master & slave, obviously you'll have to reconfigure which is which.)

Then crank up the load, to where both are needed. Like 10kW+
I did switch the follower to primary, and the Rosie made a lot of strange unexpected noise! So waiting for more guidance from support.
 
After a couple of different calls and emails to Midnite Rosie support, I'm HAPPY to state that my stacked Rosies are talking! I need to do some further testing, but we discovered 2 possible issues.

a. It's Midnite recommends that the stacked Rosies AC are wired together in a specific manner. They want one primary AC IN and one primary AC out into Rosie1 and then spliced to the second Rosie. I find that a little odd since logically that is what I had done, but at the breaker boxes.
b. The canbus connection from Rosie 1 to Rosie 2 was either loose, OR, it is positional. I was going to replace the CAT5 cable with a new one, and I had the brilliant idea to just switch the cables. (arrows showing where I switched the CAT5 cables) As soon as I did that, it, Rosie 2 woke up and started inverting.

So why did I not know all this? While the stacked Rosies are functional in software/firmware, the manuals, instructions and ePanels are still being worked on. The new recommendation does not match the documentation that I had, AND I didn't follow it because I wanted each Rosie to be bypassed so that they could all work independently in case one failed. (I still have to re-engineer that part)

At this point it's configured to not sleep, but use AC bypass when it's available and switch to battery when AC is down. Later I'll try having Rosie2 sleep until the load dictates a need.

** Note about Midnite support.. One of the PRIMARY reasons I purchased the Rosies was because I wanted to be able to call someone when there was an issue. There have been so many horror stories on this board about imported inverters and folks not even being able to get decent support from their US distributors. Midnite didn't disappoint. I was able to call and email and get the problem resolved. @SpongeboB Sinewave

Side benefit.. I'm getting really good at navigating their menus :)
 

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wsaharem what a NICE job of wiring ! Especially without the E-panels.​


We try to always have decent support. We know that support is a big thing.

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Bob, so if one were to get a Rosie would they need to get a mngp2 panel to configure? Or is that optional and configuration can happen via app?

And if one were to get a Barcelona or hawkes bay those include an mngp2 and that can be used to configure the Rosie's and the SCCs?
 
Bob, so if one were to get a Rosie would they need to get a mngp2 panel to configure? Or is that optional and configuration can happen via app?

And if one were to get a Barcelona or hawkes bay those include an mngp2 and that can be used to configure the Rosie's and the SCCs?
MNGP2’s are required to configure Rosie’s, but you only need 1. So if you buy a Rosie and a Barcelona, then only 1 MGNP2 is required, they plug together with CAT5 and they all know about each other.

Interesting note. You do not need an MNGP2 to run a Rosie. Once configured you can disconnect. That is because if you were installing at a 3rd party location and you don’t want an bad actor to go in and muck with it.
 
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If you felt like I'm interested in any good quality audio recordings of the Rosie running under decent load, 1.5kWh+

I'm curious if these inverters are gonna be quieter than the XW. I like the XW, and it makes it's noise because of what is is, but an inverter that does hum through walls would be cool too.
 
If you felt like I'm interested in any good quality audio recordings of the Rosie running under decent load, 1.5kWh+

I'm curious if these inverters are gonna be quieter than the XW. I like the XW, and it makes it's noise because of what is is, but an inverter that does hum through walls would be cool too.
Here you go. This is Rosie running 12kW at 255A battery draw. There is no inverter noise, just fan noise. And the case being open is making it louder.

 
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