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I had Prime. Haven't missed it. Just glad I canceled the annual renew before they hiked the price. I ran out of content to watch on their Videos in a month. Got really tired of them trying to upsell other channels or Video add-ons. Netflix is a far better deal.
 
Also, Prime is the reason I rarely go to Whole Foods now. The number one quality I look for in grocery is same price for everyone. Don't want no loyalty program. They ruined that when they bought WF. They also used their ML to tweak pricing. Lowered cost of grass fed ground beef. But, you not only no longer get the buns for free, they doubled the price of the buns from $3 to $6. Typical AMZN deception style pricing.
 
erik.calco said:
Also, Prime is the reason I rarely go to Whole Foods now. The number one quality I look for in grocery is same price for everyone. Don't want no loyalty program. They ruined that when they bought WF. They also used their ML to tweak pricing. Lowered cost of grass fed ground beef. But, you not only no longer get the buns for free. They doubled the price of the buns from $3 to $6. Typical AMZN deception style pricing.
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I have learned grass fed and grass finished is two different things. I tried Butcherbox a couple months ago. (They are grass finished.) I'm not sure if I will continue, and still have a lot left...it's probably slightly more expensive?? IDK, let me know if you want to try it. I have a referral code if you want so I can get a credit of some sort.
 
Santa said:
I have learned grass fed and grass finished is two different things. I tried Butcherbox a couple months ago. (They are grass finished.) I'm not sure if I will continue, and still have a lot left...it's probably slightly more expensive?? IDK, let me know if you want to try it. I have a referral code if you want so I can get a credit of some sort.
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Has to be local and never frozen. For me it is about taste, and the WF beef tasted the best. It's more about what it doesn't taste like. That grain diet puts in a lot of off flavors we've become accustomed to thinking is normal beef flavor. Then you try a grass fed, and it just has a really clean taste. That's what I love about it. And WF -- so far -- has had really good tasting beef. I still inquire every time... is this local never frozen grass-fed?

You'll have more risk in the winter, though, as grass fed is difficult for farmers to maintain in the winter months in cold climates. Some may grain feed indoors until winter passes. Can't blame them for that. Have to keep them alive and healthy. At least I'd hope the beef came from the same good local farmers that do their best to grass feed.

There is no Butcherbox near me, so can't try it. But, thanks!
 
"Grass finished" = fed cheap crap their whole life, then confined to a small area for the last few weeks of their life so they get fat, and fed grass so they can put it on the label, fyi.
 
New Mexico Will said:
"Grass finished" = fed cheap crap their whole life, then confined to a small area for the last few weeks of their life so they get fat, and fed grass so they can put it on the label, fyi.
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In reality, it's usually the other way around. They grass feed them, then often grain feed the last month or two to fatten them up. That's a tradition that has nothing to do with labeling.

But, for me, it's all about taste. IDC what the label says if it tastes clean. How they removed the grain taste -- which ironically I LOVE in beer -- isn't really critical to me. Regarding beer, well, much much higher quality grain than what they feed cows. I'm an all grain brewer with about 100 lbs of grain in my closet. lol
 
erik.calco said:
In reality, it's usually the other way around. They grass feed them, then often grain feed the last month or two to fatten them up. That's a tradition that has nothing to do with labeling.

But, for me, it's all about taste. IDC what the label says if it tastes clean. How they removed the grain taste -- which ironically I LOVE in beer -- isn't really critical to me. Regarding beer, well, much much higher quality grain than what they feed cows. I'm an all grain brewer with about 100 lbs of grain in my closet. lol
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Yes, very true, its ttpically done the other way around, but damn they are really sneaky with their labeling lately.
 
New Mexico Will said:
Yes, very true, its ttpically done the other way around, but damn they are really sneaky with their labeling lately.
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The worst is... did you hear about the guy the FBI arrested, this year IIRC, for labeling organic when there was nothing organic about it? He supplied 1/3 of the USA organic produce market!! They charged him, not because he simply lied or under any organic protection law, but because he was able to markup prices by labeling it organic... kinda like Amazon Prime. lol
 
New Mexico Will said:
Yes, very true, its ttpically done the other way around, but damn they are really sneaky with their labeling lately.
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Ugh... when my family raised cattle in the 70’s we fed grain on the bale corral and let them graze all day. Cattle were well fed, the heffers always made the weight. Steers usually were light, so molasses dipped grain was used near sale term...

Is that good or bad?
 
erik.calco said:
Has to be local and never frozen. For me it is about taste, and the WF beef tasted the best. It's more about what it doesn't taste like. That grain diet puts in a lot of off flavors we've become accustomed to thinking is normal beef flavor. Then you try a grass fed, and it just has a really clean taste. That's what I love about it. And WF -- so far -- has had really good tasting beef. I still inquire every time... is this local never frozen grass-fed?

You'll have more risk in the winter, though, as grass fed is difficult for farmers to maintain in the winter months in cold climates. Some may grain feed indoors until winter passes. Can't blame them for that. Have to keep them alive and healthy. At least I'd hope the beef came from the same good local farmers that do their best to grass feed.

There is no Butcherbox near me, so can't try it. But, thanks!
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It is shipped to you frozen, and it's grass-fed.
 
Supervstech said:
Ugh... when my family raised cattle in the 70’s we fed grain on the bale corral and let them graze all day. Cattle were well fed, the heffers always made the weight. Steers usually were light, so molasses dipped grain was used near sale term...

Is that good or bad?
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grain fed is bad, grass-fed good
 
erik.calco said:
The worst is... did you hear about the guy the FBI arrested, this year IIRC, for labeling organic when there was nothing organic about it? He supplied 1/3 of the USA organic produce market!! They charged him, not because he simply lied or under any organic protection law, but because he was able to markup prices by labeling it organic... kinda like Amazon Prime. lol
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No I didn't hear. That's just.... :-/ messed up.
 
erik.calco said:
They should ship it in ice packs unfrozen along with a nice Maine Lobster. lol
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They use really good insulation and dry ice. The dry ice melted though. I got Maine Scallops in the order, but they shorted me a pound. I haven't had lobster since being on a cruise. Yumm! I wish they had it!
 
Butcherbox: • 100% Grass-fed & Grass-finished Beef
• Heritage Breed Pork
• Free-range Organic Chicken


All certified humane, all free from added antibiotics and hormones, and all personally taste-tested by us.
 
I've been using Amazon for a little over 20 years. Never had an issue with them, which in retrospect is pretty amazing, the return policy was always worked. Although one time I did have to pay shipping to send something back. I thought that was odd, but its not happened again.

I did cancel prime a year or so back, when they jacked up the price to be about $130 with tax. That was a very enlightening experience. After so many years of buying from them I was lulled into a false sense of they were always the lowest price. That's when I found other places were considerably less some of the time. Since that enlightenment, about 70% of my orders have gone elsewhere. I still buy a lot from Amz.

Another thing I have tried and it worked. I have started a month to month prime account, ordered what I needed and terminated it when I was done ordering. (so I just paid for one month) I have done that once so far. I have not tried to restart it, but am hoping it will work again if i get in a hurry for things, say just prior to leaving on a long rv trip.

I have ordered a lot of stuff thru them recently without prime, and almost everything gives you free shipping if you are willing to wait a bit. I have found that most of the time the items arrive way before the date they say they will when purchased that way. But I have had a few that took the full time frame which is a bit infuriating cause they just don't ship it till the day before its due... presumably its been in their warehouse the whole time and they just want to you send them the prime money upfront.

Just my two cents! -Bill
 
LOL, how did this thread get over to beef.... I worked on a farm back east where we raised black angus. They were always grass fed as that was the cheapest way to do it. Then about a month before I needed to drive them down to the slaughter house we would start feeding them ground up corn mixed with other "stuff", not sure what it was as a grinding truck came by and ground up our corn from the crib and loaded it in burlap sacks. There was some brown gooey stuff that I think was molasses.

I laugh about places that now advertise the grass fed thing and charge us more for it! Its the cheapest way to raise cattle if you are in an area that gets rain!

-Bill
 
Supervstech said:
Ugh... when my family raised cattle in the 70’s we fed grain on the bale corral and let them graze all day. Cattle were well fed, the heffers always made the weight. Steers usually were light, so molasses dipped grain was used near sale term...

Is that good or bad?
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Fat=flavor, so you won't hear me complain! It's still a very common practice around here to use molasses.
 
erik.calco said:
The worst is... did you hear about the guy the FBI arrested, this year IIRC, for labeling organic when there was nothing organic about it? He supplied 1/3 of the USA organic produce market!! They charged him, not because he simply lied or under any organic protection law, but because he was able to markup prices by labeling it organic... kinda like Amazon Prime. lol
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Dam!!! Fargin bastages no good Iceholes!!

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