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Best solar hybrid off grid inverter

Hi,
I am wondering and hoping to get others opnions of their off grid,hybrid inverters. I do not want grid feed,just grid when solar or battery is not enough.
Thank you for anyone and all that take the time to give advise. I have used on grid inverter( rip off), low frequency China b to lew up. Growatt spf 5000es with AT currently thumping thumping,and 52 error. Once I reset in morning several times it works seems to prefer sub mode other are smoking dangerous or fault error. It want to use grid amps even though solar amps are more than enough. I turn it off we I leave and at night. FEAR ?

Maybe the Samlex EVO is what you are looking for. My system uses the Samlex EVO-2224-Inverter-Charger.

When the solar battery voltage gets low (to my programmed voltage) the Samlex EVO transfers to power my loads from the grid. Once the solar battery is charged up (to my programmed voltage) by the solar panels the Samlex EVO transfers to power my loads from the Inverter using my solar battery.

While using grid power to supply my loads (while solar panels are charging battery) I have the Samlex EVO-2224-Inverter-Charger programmed to just supply 1amp to charge the solar battery. That way the solar panels are used to charge the solar battery and the Samlex EVO-2224-Inverter-Charger only supplies a small trickle charge to the solar battery. I find the trickle charge useful because the solar system uses a small amount of power (inverter in idle, solar controllers etc.) and this keeps the battery voltage from going to low during prolonged periods of cloudy days.

Check out the link and download the manual for the Samlex EVO-RC-PLUS Remote Control. It is needed to program the Samlex EVO Inverter-Charger. Read over and study the manual carefully and you will see how to program it. It takes some time to study because it has a number of features. I have a lot of sticky notes to bookmark pages that I need because it is a very extensive and detailed manual.


Select a Samlex EVO Inverter-Charger model that works for the voltage and power needs of your system. Samlex EVO are available in 12, 24, 48VDC and the 48VDC model offers 120/240 split phase. Download the manual and read it over. It is the most detailed & extensive manual I have found for an Inverter charger. I have learned a number of things from just reading the manual.


If the Samlex EVO-Inverter-Charger works for you donrowe.com has good prices to purchase the unit. I have purchased a couple of inverters from them and have had no problems. They are also known for their support.

A little more about the Samlex EVO-2224-Inverter-Charger with built in transfer switch that is listed:
The frequency and phase of the internal backup Inverter Section are always kept synchronized with the AC input source. This facilitates “extremely fast” transfer time of up to 16 ms. Also, transfer from the Inverter Section to the AC input source and vice versa takes place at zero crossing of the voltage waveform – this ensures (i) negligible arcing / erosion of Transfer Relay contacts and (ii) negligible Electromagnetic Interference (EMI) associated with arcing.

This synchronized feature also helps the wear & tear on loads when the auto transfer switches from one AC source like the Grid/Generator to the Inverter/Charger and vice versa.


Hope this helps...
 
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It doesn't work quite the way you say. If you have an off-grid system, all of the loads are powered by that system from the battery + solar. If that system can't handle all the load and goes down, it switches to Bypass and all of the loads are powered by the grid through the bypass switch. It can't partially take what it needs from the grid, it is all or nothing, one or the other, not both. If you are attempting to run it in parallel with the grid improperly, that is both dangerous and against all regulations, and I hope I've misunderstood what you're saying toward the end there.
Thank you. Your information was very insightful. I took new approach. Removed grid service. Seems to function much better. So either on grid feeding grid or totally off grid is the true operations. This pulling from grid as needed results in relay problems. Period.
Thank you again
 
Maybe the Samlex EVO is what you are looking for. My system uses the Samlex EVO-2224-Inverter-Charger.

When the solar battery voltage gets low (to my programmed voltage) the Samlex EVO transfers to power my loads from the grid. Once the solar battery is charged up (to my programmed voltage) by the solar panels the Samlex EVO transfers to power my loads from the Inverter using my solar battery.

While using grid power to supply my loads (while solar panels are charging battery) I have the Samlex EVO-2224-Inverter-Charger programmed to just supply 1amp to charge the solar battery. That way the solar panels are used to charge the solar battery and the Samlex EVO-2224-Inverter-Charger only supplies a small trickle charge to the solar battery. I find the trickle charge useful because the solar system uses a small amount of power (inverter in idle, solar controllers etc.) and this keeps the battery voltage from going to low during prolonged periods of cloudy days.

Check out the link and download the manual for the Samlex EVO-RC-PLUS Remote Control. It is needed to program the Samlex EVO Inverter-Charger. Read over and study the manual carefully and you will see how to program it. It takes some time to study because it has a number of features. I have a lot of sticky notes to bookmark pages that I need because it is a very extensive and detailed manual.


Select a Samlex EVO Inverter-Charger model that works for the voltage and power needs of your system. Samlex EVO are available in 12, 24, 48VDC and the 48VDC model offers 120/240 split phase. Download the manual and read it over. It is the most detailed & extensive manual I have found for an Inverter charger. I have learned a number of things from just reading the manual.


If the Samlex EVO-Inverter-Charger works for you donrowe.com has good prices to purchase the unit. I have purchased a couple of inverters from them and have had no problems. They are also known for their support.

A little more about the Samlex EVO-2224-Inverter-Charger with built in transfer switch that is listed:
The frequency and phase of the internal backup Inverter Section are always kept synchronized with the AC input source. This facilitates “extremely fast” transfer time of up to 16 ms. Also, transfer from the Inverter Section to the AC input source and vice versa takes place at zero crossing of the voltage waveform – this ensures (i) negligible arcing / erosion of Transfer Relay contacts and (ii) negligible Electromagnetic Interference (EMI) associated with arcing.

This synchronized feature also helps the wear & tear on loads when the auto transfer switches from one AC source like the Grid/Generator to the Inverter/Charger and vice versa.


Hope this helps...
Thank you I will investigate very soon.
 
The Samlex EVO-2224 2200W Pure Sine Inverter/Charger is listed for sale sells for $1,499.99 US, or $1,500 at donrowe.com, a family run business selling inverters since 2001 (about). The manufacturer's product page is here. There's a product manual, quick start guide, and Samlex Specifications (English & Spanish) available at that page.
 
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I'm currently trying to do some research myself on the best bang-for-the-buck 3Kw unit between the Growatt, the MPP, the EG4 and the PowMr. Budgets and cold environment are major factors.
 
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Okay, this is like what we used to call a Double-Conversion UPS. The AC (or Solar) goes to a powerful AC-DC converter and battery charger that can provide the full inverter input power in the case where there are no batteries, or solar. I designed these back in the 1990's, without the solar input. I didn't realize these inverters had such powerful input-side power converters. The largest I ever worked on was 150kW, 3Phase UPS.
Works just like paralleling with gens on the grid. Control the phase angle for power (for gens control the fuel flow) and the output voltage for reactive power control. For both just a little goes a long way. I've never worked on a UPS system that parallel with the grid. I've done a few decades with gen import/export/standby system. Systems from 208V to 13,200 volt and 1 gen up to 14 personally. The biggest diesel gens I've done were 2.8 MW each. and turbines up to 8 MW. Generally in that world the limiting factor was short circuit current availability which limited the size/number of gens.
 
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