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If you were asked to create one size solar array and battery bank that would maximize self-consumption of the largest proportion of people across the continental United States, how many KWH would you make each?
 
All solar projects should be customized to the individual.
Solar projects should primarily focus on a consumption demand workup.

Then a site irradiance availability.

Much more than a cookie cutter design might offer.
 
$100k of hardware?

Something modular in $20k chunks might fit more of the market.
But load control is key. Keep the TV and beer fridge working, even if other things have to shut off. (or, fork over another $20k to $40k)
 
I'd google "average KWH usage United States" and then design a system that would provide 80% of the annual usage in 80% of the United States varying weather zones. EG: Seattle vs. Phoenix.
 
Depends.
There's a wide range of source conditions and irradiance, latitude and sun height, overcast weather, snow, etc...
No one size fits all.
Mebbe if you targeted a few regions - P N W, NE, Sunbelt etc.
And also offered a range of sizes for KWH demand for each region.
 
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I'd google "average KWH usage United States" and then design a system that would provide 80% of the annual usage in 80% of the United States varying weather zones. EG: Seattle vs. Phoenix.
I'm going to call myself out before someone else does. Using my approach would result in somewhat oversized systems for some but radically undersized systems for others. It's ~possibly~ more doable on a region by region basis but a one size fits all for entire US would result in many needlessly oversized and undersized systems which equals lots of waste and a bad name for solar.
 
50kw of inverter
100kw of solar
100 kwh of storage
That should generically cover most homes in the US.

I’m in a duplex at 45N. Roughly 4000 sq. ft. total.

NG for heating and water heaters.

Most usage has been around 60 kWh/day in January (niece leaves her space heater on all the time).

I think I’d do fine with less than half your numbers. If weather was bad for a few days, definitely not let niece use space heater. Maybe cook with propane grill, delay laundry. Just limit electricity for that period as much as practical. Luckily, I do have a STBY generator to use if need arises.
 
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I’m in a duplex at 45N. Roughly 4000 sq. ft. total.

NG for heating and water heaters.

Most usage has been around 60 kWh/day in January (niece leaves her space heater on all the time).

I think I’d do fine with less than half your numbers. If weather was bad for a few days, definitely not let niece use space heater. Maybe cook with propane grill, delay laundry. Just limit electricity for that period as much as practical. Luckily, I do have a STBY generator to use if need arises.
That was a generic answer to a generic question.
Had to be big enough to cover most of the US homes.
Which means that it's going to be too much for 40% of the US homes. And too small for 20%.
 
That was a generic answer to a generic question.
Had to be big enough to cover most of the US homes.
Which means that it's going to be too much for 40% of the US homes. And too small for 20%.

Well you have been at this a lot longer than me. I have just been playing with figures for a few months now that I am planning for my system. But wow. That would be a huge system. I have to think less than 10% of homes would use that much electricity to require it.

Now if I were out in the country, I’d build it anyway! :)
 
Definitely a loaded question with way too many variables! We have NG and wood heat. We can heat and cool (via MS system's) only the areas of our New England house which we chose to do so. Realistically, we can, and typically do, get by with <10kW/day. With that said, if I'm making the commitment to build a system, it's going to be large enough to support our expected future needs, and also replace some, if not most, of our fossil fuel needs. So basically, we could use as little as 7kW/day, or use as much as 10x that if we wanted to. I guess it all boils down to how much electricity you want to use or rely on? Either way, I like having plenty of redundant options for energy, and not be at the mercy of any of them. One thing has become crystal clear to me, there will be major a energy crisis in the not-too-distant future. Better to be prepared than not IMO!
 
Definitely a loaded question with way too many variables! We have NG and wood heat. We can heat and cool (via MS system's) only the areas of our New England house which we chose to do so. Realistically, we can, and typically do, get by with <10kW/day. With that said, if I'm making the commitment to build a system, it's going to be large enough to support our expected future needs, and also replace some, if not most, of our fossil fuel needs. So basically, we could use as little as 7kW/day, or use as much as 10x that if we wanted to. I guess it all boils down to how much electricity you want to use or rely on? Either way, I like having plenty of redundant options for energy, and not be at the mercy of any of them. One thing has become crystal clear to me, there will be major a energy crisis in the not-too-distant future. Better to be prepared than not IMO!
Do you mean <10kWh of energy is used per day? or do you mean that your maximum load is <10kW of power? Power is instantaneous, not cumulative "per day".
Terminology, it's confusing if not used properly and I see a lot of people use kW/day, which makes no sense because power is instantaneous and not cumulative. What I read is kWh/day, which is the amount of energy being used in a day. kW and kWh are not the same thing.
 
Do you mean <10kWh of energy is used per day? or do you mean that your maximum load is <10kW of power? Power is instantaneous, not cumulative "per day".
Terminology, it's confusing if not used properly and I see a lot of people use kW/day, which makes no sense because power is instantaneous and not cumulative. What I read is kWh/day, which is the amount of energy being used in a day. kW and kWh are not the same thing.
Correct, kWh... sorry, I had a few extra cocktails last night! :ROFLMAO:
 
I'd google "average KWH usage United States"

Well, if you do that, you get ~30kWh/day. Residential. Average. Which includes very-low-income dwellings.
So, most people will probably draw even more.
Now, I do OK with solar on 3 kWh/day. On 30+, I probably wouldn't.
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Well, if you do that, you get ~30kWh/day. Residential. Average. Which includes very-low-income dwellings.
So, most people will probably draw even more.
Now, I do OK with solar on 3 kWh/day. On 30+, I probably wouldn't.
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My house averages over 70kWh/day. It's crazy having an all-electric home. I don't miss the gas bill though.
 
Correct, kWh... sorry, I had a few extra cocktails last night! :ROFLMAO:

And lost track of "hours"

Panels are cheap, but take space to put up and mounting hardware + labor.
I make 90 ~ 100 kWh some days but my batteries only cycle 14 kWh (enough for one night).
With grid down, this works fine for running A/C and fully topping off AGM battery.
Days with heavy clouds, consumption is less (fossil fuel heating available, though not yet automatically managed.)

With lithium it is OK to not reach 100% SoC, so can drain and then power to house goes off, rather than somehow explaining to user they have to shut off loads and let battery fully recharge.

Two ways to make PV (or any other generation) work:
1) Have excess production capacity, so whatever power requested is available. Our present utility grid approach, for the most part.
2) Load control, so all production is available and sometimes used, but critical and important loads don't get shut off, only discretionary ones.
 

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