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Do Hybrid Inverters pull from Grid/Solar/Battery at the same time?

Mine will AC charge only when it's in Utility mode.
(Bypass relay engaged)
It won't AC charge when it's in SUB mode. ( AC in and inverter out Paralleled) (bypass relay engaged) i assume that this is because the DC bus is being used for solar direct conversion.
 
timselectric said:
Mine will AC charge only when it's in Utility mode.
(Bypass relay engaged)
It won't AC charge when it's in SUB mode. ( AC in and inverter out Paralleled) (bypass relay engaged) i assume that this is because the DC bus is being used for solar direct conversion.
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what is you model ?
 
sergea said:
what they said about MAX series on the screenshot, is not present in the manual. can never have utility and battery at the same time to power the load.
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Ah, I see it now.
Yeah, I don't think that is possible.
At least not according to how I think it uses the DC bus.
 
timselectric said:
Growatt SPF-5000-ES
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I'm very pleased with this unit. It does everything I want. And I have put it through a lot of mistakes. It just keeps working, with no issues.
Hopefully I have not just been lucky. Because I will have 6 or more of these in my completed system.
 
Danke said:
And if you can, take 30% off, then the 15k doesn’t sting as much. Heck, get another one as a back up! ?

Mine should come out to be $5670 each, delivered.
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Who’s offering 30% off on the SoK-ark? That’s a steal if it’s true. If the 30% is the government new incentives, that’s a 30% reduction of your tax debt based on your purchase that you owe the IRS which is still a deal. The government does not cut you a check back.
 
timselectric said:
I'm very pleased with this unit. It does everything I want. And I have put it through a lot of mistakes. It just keeps working, with no issues.
Hopefully I have not just been lucky. Because I will have 6 or more of these in my completed system.
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wow 6 units ;-) I removed every voltronic units and replaced them with one DEYE 8K. more flexibility, better design, better support. I'am satisfy also with this unit.
 
sergea said:
wow 6 units ;-) I removed every voltronic units and replaced them with one DEYE 8K. more flexibility, better design, better support. I'am satisfy also with this unit.
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The goal is 30 to 40k inverting power.
All electric house and eventually 2 EV's.
 
sergea said:
wow 6 units ;-) I removed every voltronic units and replaced them with one DEYE 8K. more flexibility, better design, better support. I'am satisfy also with this unit.
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Deye is an awesome inverter. I would like incorporate 2 into my setup. For a separate project. Probably way in the future.
 
ChrisG said:
Who’s offering 30% off on the SoK-ark? That’s a steal if it’s true. If the 30% is the government new incentives, that’s a 30% reduction of your tax debt based on your purchase that you owe the IRS which is still a deal. The government does not cut you a check back.
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I thought the US gov incentive was now 26% through the end of this year (and dropping to 22% in 2023)? Did this get raised back up to 30% recently?
 
Wet1 said:
I thought the US gov incentive was now 26% through the end of this year (and dropping to 22% in 2023)? Did this get raised back up to 30% recently?
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Think so but it’s not a rebate as one said. You’re able to reduce your tax liability and only if you have a liability by 30% of your solar purchase amount.
 
Yes, the downside of a tax rebate is you have to have to pay enough tax to be eligible for the max rebate to begin with, which basically means almost all of the tax-related solar incentives totally skip over people at the bottom of the income totem pole, which is unfortunate because they generally live in the most energy-inefficient way due to poor equipment/conditions (poorly insulated housing, old AC equipment, badly sealed window units, space heaters, etc etc etc) and would stand to receive the greatest proportional benefit vs those who already live more comfortably.
 
Vigo said:
Yes, the downside of a tax rebate is you have to have to pay enough tax to be eligible for the max rebate to begin with, which basically means almost all of the tax-related solar incentives totally skip over people at the bottom of the income totem pole, which is unfortunate because they generally live in the most energy-inefficient way due to poor equipment/conditions (poorly insulated housing, old AC equipment, badly sealed window units, space heaters, etc etc etc) and would stand to receive the greatest proportional benefit vs those who already live more comfortably.
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If your income isn’t high enough, it can be carried over to other years. It is good until 2033 now.

And they have special programs for low income.
 
Not to get OT, but is does someone have a link for the rate being raised back up from 26% to 30%? TIA

Edit: I did some reading and it looks like it's been pushed back up to 30% through 2032.
 
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RCinFLA said:
I have reservations with the SolArk 15K 200 amp transfer switch. Transfer switches take a beating from grid glitches.

They open every time there is a grid glitch that causes a surge overload on inverter, so they open the contacts under the surge current limit of inverter, which for 15K inverter is spec'd as 30kVA, or for 240vac, is >125 amps of current through relay when relay contacts open up. Very tough on relay contacts.

My system probably averages three to five grid glitch induced pass-through relay cutouts a week. Florida has a lot of thunderstorm induced grid glitches.

I am very interested in someone posting a picture of this 200 amp transfer switch.

I personally would never count on my total 200 amp grid connect service to feed through the inverter pass-thru relay.
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That is a valid concern. Depending on the utility and location we have encountered situations where the relay will fuse. Constant grid fluctuation and acts of nature can wreak havoc, particularly when switching larger loads. On the 12K it is a straightforward even DIY board swap in the field. The 15K relays while replaceable are a lot more difficult to swap and would require an RMA or be handled by an approved service center.
 
Devin said:
That is a valid concern. Depending on the utility and location we have encountered situations where the relay will fuse. Constant grid fluctuation and acts of nature can wreak havoc, particularly when switching larger loads. On the 12K it is a straightforward even DIY board swap in the field. The 15K relays while replaceable are a lot more difficult to swap and would require an RMA or be handled by an approved service center.
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Thanks Devin for your honest answer! So I'm assuming using the 15k OG would be wise if this were a real concern? Likewise, using it GT with only a 100A service would drastically reduce the wear, correct?

On a related note, is the same true for the fans on the 15k, or can those be serviced/replaced by a DIY person in the field?
 
sergea said:
wow 6 units ;-) I removed every voltronic units and replaced them with one DEYE 8K. more flexibility, better design, better support. I'am satisfy also with this unit.
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that is the route i will be taking as well.
not sure yet if theu will be sunsynk or deye's yet, and they will 2 12/14k's

sunsynk because i like the work @Keith Gough and his team are putting in the design, support and documentation of it, but, there is about a 750 euro difference in the pricing per inverter between a deye and sunsynk last time i checked
 
Wet1 said:
Thanks Devin for your honest answer! So I'm assuming using the 15k OG would be wise if this were a real concern? Likewise, using it GT with only a 100A service would drastically reduce the wear, correct?

On a related note, is the same true for the fans on the 15k, or can those be serviced/replaced by a DIY person in the field?
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In theory, that may help with extending the life of the internal relays, but it is something I would not be overly concerned especially if you're in the contiguous US. Fans similarly are replaceable on the 15K but more difficult than on the 12K. Fans are covered under warranty for up to 5 years from the date of purchase.
 
PuraVidaPrepping said:
GSL energy offers units similar to the Sol-Ark (based on the original Deye design), and they are now distributing in the USA, but at lower cost than Sol-Ark. Software isn't as sleek, but the hardware is solid.
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From what I’ve read the GSL inverters cannot use battery to supply loads at the same time the grid is supplying the loads. SolArk can do that
 
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