Vigo
Solar Addict
Lots of such devices probably are talking 'to the outside world', just not in a way that benefits the owner. They're likely data-mining us via peer-to-peer mesh networking that doesn't rely on your actual wifi if there are other 'compatible' radios within its own range (i.e. neighborhoods).This is the way in other areas. My washing machine has wifi , but making it talk out of my home network to the outside world is problematic in a similar way as solar gear
Tesla 'needs' vehicles' data to make their autopilot stop killing people. Maybe eventually the washing machine will just do the laundry for you?