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Britman

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Hey any comments on the components i'm considering here... will be expanding to another battery in a month or two
and obviously adding panels when funds enable me to .... (solar charge controller too small?)
Please suggest optimal config of panels
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OK, with a Voc of 48.6V, you CAN NOT have three panels or more in series. At room temperature three panels in series is already ~146Voc, so it takes just a cool (not frosty) morning to bump the voltage above 150V. So, wire two panels in series. With six panels total that's three parallel strings of 2 panels each, written as 2S3P.

Those six panels are likely to put out (375W X 6 panels) / 50V charging = 45A theoretical. With 85% derating, you are likely to see ~38A max in the real-world. With a 60A limit, you could potentially expand to (60A X 50Vcharging)/85% = 3530W of panels with no overload concerns. If you want to add even more panel watts, orient some of the extra W Southeast, and some Southwest, which will flatten down your noon peak, but broaden out the overall daily power curve.

But, why the separate charge controller, when the inverter you want to buy, the SunGoldPower, already has a built-in MPPT that can handle 120A?
 
OK, with a Voc of 48.6V, you CAN NOT have three panels or more in series. At room temperature three panels in series is already ~146Voc, so it takes just a cool (not frosty) morning to bump the voltage above 150V. So, wire two panels in series. With six panels total that's three parallel strings of 2 panels each, written as 2S3P.

Those six panels are likely to put out (375W X 6 panels) / 50V charging = 45A theoretical. With 85% derating, you are likely to see ~38A max in the real-world. With a 60A limit, you could potentially expand to (60A X 50Vcharging)/85% = 3530W of panels with no overload concerns. If you want to add even more panel watts, orient some of the extra W Southeast, and some Southwest, which will flatten down your noon peak, but broaden out the overall daily power curve.

But, why the separate charge controller, when the inverter you want to buy, the SunGoldPower, already has a built-in MPPT that can handle 120A?
Thankyou Michael .. esp the comment on SE facing panels ... experience experience.. I already have the sungoldpower 6k but it is not a solar off grid. I'm unable to add panels directly to it hence the Charge controller. I'm guessing if i expand bigger i'll at a growwatt inv or something similar but i'd read on my travels that a low freq inv handles surges better and lasts longer? one thing i know for sure that this whole field is more complex than it first appears and has many variables ...Thank you sir for your input
 
OK, with a Voc of 48.6V, you CAN NOT have three panels or more in series. At room temperature three panels in series is already ~146Voc, so it takes just a cool (not frosty) morning to bump the voltage above 150V. So, wire two panels in series. With six panels total that's three parallel strings of 2 panels each, written as 2S3P.

Those six panels are likely to put out (375W X 6 panels) / 50V charging = 45A theoretical. With 85% derating, you are likely to see ~38A max in the real-world. With a 60A limit, you could potentially expand to (60A X 50Vcharging)/85% = 3530W of panels with no overload concerns. If you want to add even more panel watts, orient some of the extra W Southeast, and some Southwest, which will flatten down your noon peak, but broaden out the overall daily power curve.

But, why the separate charge controller, when the inverter you want to buy, the SunGoldPower, already has a built-in MPPT that can handle 120A?
2S3P = Ok so that's 3 wires going into the SCC ... the victron (for argument sake) has only 1 inlet for PV so i'd need a combiner ? Other than the wifi BT options with the victron is there any reason they are so expensive .. they look cheap (manufactured in china?) i know people rave about them but the bigger one 500/120a (which i probably need to consider if i'm buying once is almost a grand ..
 
2S3P = Ok so that's 3 wires going into the SCC ... the victron (for argument sake) has only 1 inlet for PV so i'd need a combiner ? Other than the wifi BT options with the victron is there any reason they are so expensive .. they look cheap (manufactured in china?) i know people rave about them but the bigger one 500/120a (which i probably need to consider if i'm buying once is almost a grand ..
I have no clue what you are talking about here? The last Midnight combiner I bought was off Ebay, for 63$. Even retail right now is only 142$, more than I have ever paid. Are we talking about the same thing?
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I was talking about the solar charge controller ... I think i'm going to save the sungold power 6k INV for another project and buy a growatt 6k AIO or the EG4 6.5 120v single phase .. both are 1299 but include a huge input MPPT .. why pay a grand for the big victron charge controller ...
 
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Thanks for your patience and input .. very likely going to get the growatt 6k so my diagram looks like this
now ... 3S2P.
Is this looking ok for the charger input and amps etc
Next big question is wire size from panels ? Will it be just 10awg?
My run will be 30ft max and i tried to use the volt drop calculator but ended up going round in circles...
 

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