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On Sabine Hossenfelder (Who seems to be very eager to capitalize on the latest scam aka "climate change")

5 minutes of internet research turned out these gems (I decided to look this up because i have quite a bit of interest in various topics in Physics):


I particularly love this one:

Before I really knew much about physics, I liked Sabine and thought she was “speaking truth to power” in a way. Now that I know quite a bit more, I find that the majority of her audience is more of the “pop-sci” crowd who aren’t really able to form their own opinions and therefore just believe what she says unquestioningly. Among this crowd, she has positioned herself to be an authority, which she really is not. I find her to be extremely opinionated in a way that does not allow for other opinions to exist, meaning that she sees other opinions as being “unable to accept the truth” (where “the truth” here is really just her opinion). One instance of this is how she hates anything related to naturalness and acts like people who want to use naturalness as a motivation for physics are simply “lost in math” (the literal title for her book), but she conveniently leaves out that naturalness has historically been a very good motivator and has found huge success. She also rails against any future colliders, saying they are a waste of money because no one can guarantee any new discoveries will be made at these higher energies, but this is so antithetical to how science works and human exploration in general, not to mention that if you want to complain about wasted money in society, there are WAY bigger fish to fry (like the inflated military budget for instance, which spends more money in 2 days than the entire LHC cost to build over a decade). I am also a bit turned off by the fact that her new role as a “science communicator” (meaning her YouTube channel) comes across as being a bit of a money making ploy, but then again I guess everyone has to pay the bills somehow.

And this

The reason she is something of a controversial figure in the physics community, is that she has very definite opinions - and they are just opinions - about how science should be done.

She presents these in an extremely authoritative way, as if her understanding of philosophy of science is both all encompassing and absolute, when in fact she is not an expert in philosophy of science, and the field is not understood in such an absolute way that views cannot be challenged anyway.

Because her audience is pretty wide, and she may be the only, or one of the few people they listen to on these topics, her opinions can be taken as received wisdom. This has an actual effect on both the popular perception of fields she decides to target (e.g. String theory), even of the perception of these fields by scientists in other areas who haven't studied them, and consequently on the funding that these fields receive.

It's hard to articulate a strong response to what she does, because she's very dismissive. See her recent extremely rude and dismissive twitter thread against a physicist Arttu Rajantie for an example. Arttu argued clearly on historical and scientific basis that an experiment was worth doing and Sabine dismissed him in a horribly disrespectful way, see her replies at the end of his thread. It's hard to see what more could have been done to convince her.

Another reason it's hard to respond to her is that the reasons for thinking string theory is a productive thing to investigate are quite technical sometimes, and although I'm sure some very talented person could make a convincing counterpoint in the popular science sphere, such a person isn't really out there, or if they are they don't have the same platform as Sabine, or people who follow Sabine take it that when she angrily dismisses someone, that's because their point doesn't make sense. This is not the case, her angry dismissals are an effective tactic to convince people to ignore the argument of her adversary.

There are good reasons to think that string theory is a productive field to study. It's not just 'being lost in the math'. Scientists aren't just cynically studying it for the grant money, it represents a possibly huge leap in our understanding of the natural world. When people say it's not testible, well that's a good argument, but you have to keep in mind that the theory is extremely complicated and still quite poorly understood. It is not at all unlikely that continued study will uncover new aspects of the theory which are accessible to experiment. The only way we ensure that this possible resolution to some of the deepest questions about the universe remains forever untested is to cut funding, and stop exploring it, and that's what Sabine wants us to do.


And this, particularly interesting as this goes into her actual field of study, which is Theoretical Physics

 
Guys it is real easy ….whatever Bill Gates, Musk, and Soros - TYPES are pushing for something then it is not going to be good for us. Musk has slacked off on somethings but he is still going with other things. Good Cop Bad Cop.

Some ppl just can’t see it… until they hear I told you so. Bad part even after hear “I told you so” the followers stay with climax hoaxing for profit plans….. we have forum members doing that. Covid and Climax Change are tied to = “do not ever question SCIENCE” as if it is their God and Religious center..

These Rich ppl think they can control the planet when their goals are to fleece the followers. Religion and this is closely related. Gates as example works every angle. Soros works every angle. Rothschild work every angle. Blackrock has grown wealthy beyond imagine working every angle. My own investment in Vanguard is wealthy beyond imagination.

Science Worship best name has already been taken by Scientology. 🤣😀🤡

Ppl that often claim to be atheist just invent NEW religions and cults. Climate Cange is a cult and religious like worship. Example Don’t Question God is now Don’t question Science.
 
The good news on climate activism is that more and more corporations are being held to account for NOT acting in their best interest ... Some big players are rethinking their role.

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☕️ SUDDENLY ☙ Tuesday, February 20, 2024 ☙ C&C NEWS 🦠
A pesky awkwardly-named group, the ‘Climate Action 100+,’ has been collecting Fortune 100 companies that “pledge” to adopt expensive, useless, and money-wasting green policies. But conservative lawyers have been claiming all this concerted corporate action violates antitrust laws, and on top of that, is usually not in the shareholders’ best interests. Directors, after all, are responsible to shareholders rather than to The Earth, which does not pay their oversized salaries or vote or attend shareholder meetings.
Even if it wanted to pay the Directors, I’m not sure The Earth could even get a bank account, since The Earth includes Russia. Ick.
On Friday, JPMorgan, Blackrock, State Street, and Pimco all pulled out of the Climate Action 100+ group. On the same day. Which doesn’t show concerted action, at all, so stop whining. Oh, and Goldman Sachs ‘declined to comment’ on Saturday, which is not a good sign for that one, either.
While the Times framed the story as bad news, it’s actually terrific news, and it is significant progress. Virtue-signaling climate boondoggles are getting unaffordable.
As I’ve often said, we don’t have many problems that a good recession​
 
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While Wall Street pulling out of the "visible" climate action is undoubtedly a very good thing (Thanks to people's increased awareness of the Climate Scam, another example of making them dance to our parade), we must be very diligent on what they are going to do next. In fact, they are already rebranding it under a different name (Something they are absolutely great at when being caught).

 
So burn down the windmills and electric cars and fire up that V-8 powered leaf blower. The climate change alarmists have known about this but have desperately tried to cover it up. Science deniers!
No one tried to cover it up. The predictions of global warming indicated that the warming would far outpace the cooling due to lower sunspot activity.

If anything 2023 was strong evidence to that. Cycle 24 was the weakest cycle in 100 years. Cycle 24 started at the end of 12023.

Solar Cycle 24 was average in length, at 11 years, ............................. It was also the weakest cycle in 100 years. Solar maximum occurred in April 2014 with sunspots peaking at 114 for the solar cycle, well below average, which is 179.

And yet 2023, which occured at the end of cycle 23 was the warmest year on record.

2023 was the world’s warmest year on record, by far

I'm sure you'll all just ingore the facts and attack me now.
 

2023 was the world’s warmest year on record, by far

I'm sure you'll all just ingore the facts and attack me now.

Stop spreading BS


The year 2023 flawed climate alarmist claims of “hottest year on record” are in the same vein as the flawed claims made by climate alarmists about the summer of 2023 being “the U.S. hottest summer ever” that was addressed here and shown below.


And then we have gems like this


And this


And This


So, the bottom line is that all this "Global Warming" / "Climate Change" is just more BS with the real goal to control you.
 
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Stop spreading BS


The year 2023 flawed climate alarmist claims of “hottest year on record” are in the same vein as the flawed claims made by climate alarmists about the summer of 2023 being “the U.S. hottest summer ever” that was addressed here and shown below.


And then we have gems like this

It is more authoritative in enormous bold blue print
 
Look at California, getting rain.

OMG the humanity!

Liberals are so fricken stupid. Washes that have been dry for decades are getting water in them again.

It used to be called global warming but had to be rebranded as climate change because how can one possibly argue the climate doesn't change.

Liberals are notorious for bullshit like this.

1) giving a teenage boy hormones so he'll grow tits is called "gender affirming care"

2) killing a baby in-utero is "the right to choose"


Ad Nauseum....
 
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Valentina is the "scientist" you referenced. I just pointed out what she actually said Vs. what her words were twisted to say. Or, if you meant Sabine, she isn't a climate scientist. She's a physicist who tries to make science clear without the gobblygook.


The thermometer was invented in in 1654, nearly 400 years ago. So, they might have a clue ... especially since the British were taking and documenting water and air temperatures everywhere their boats went.


Not Absolutely positive about everything. Real science comes with ranges of accuracies, the IPCC lists those ranges. Some things are unequivocal as they can be directly measured. Some things are nearly certain (e.g., global warming is manmade) as the model predictions have always been within the range of accuracy [ref] and for the reasons Sabine listed above.

You seem emotionally vested, angry in fact, about the topic. Why is that? Is it because someone on YouTube got you spun up about it?

Funny how the scientific videos don't leave an emotional impact and the denier ones leave you with a sense of outrage that makes you want to degrade fellow members. It's the same way politicians spin up their audience to get the results they want...something that makes you emotional isn't to be trusted. Hopefully, if you get nothing else from Sabine's videos, you will realize that the theory is there and sufficiently plausible that reasonably thinking people can honestly believe it.

Climate Change has always been occurring. The evidence strongly points to mankind's GHGs accelerating warming and Sabine does a good job with it in my prior post. Often a cause for misunderstanding is that the Greenhouse effect is more complicated than you learned in high school, here's a good video explaining it, I hope it helps you.

Its perfectly appropriate to be angry with all the money theyre throwing at this, the increasing restrictions on our lives, and the judgemental nature of holier than thou alarmists.
Leftists in America dont care about the planet. If they did they would stop Bidens invasion by third world people with 2-3 times the US birth rate, theyre just facilitating this overpopulation within our borders.
Most climate change measures are actually policies of global socialism with the goal of industrializing third world masses.
Since AGW is supposedly caused by human industrialization, its expected Im pissed off as apparantly the alarmists in charge dont have a fucking clue what theyre doing.
"There now, we are saving the earth, by taking your money away and giving it to the swarthy poor people in hopelessly corrupt countries with backward cultures."
(Introduces policies that only hasten its demise)
"Why are you angry?"
 
Its perfectly appropriate to be angry with all the money theyre throwing at this,
What money? Can you provide some context on this? The way I see it, a lot of people are angry about stuff that isn't even happening. Can't imagine you're upset with the pocket change spent on scientific studies when compared to the billions Congress wastes (e.g., Alaska's bridge to nowhere, see this link for Congress spending a billion on a trolley).

The way I see it, not spending money on it now is going to cost us a lot more later.

But, maybe I missed something? I would say, if you think trillions have been spent on climate change (federal tax dollars, not states or private investors like Bill Gates spending millions of his own money or people investing in solar farms to make money), make sure to look at the fine print as to where the money was actually spent ( I don't consider fixing lead pipes in Detroit or keeping the existing grid operational, repairing stuff after extreme weather, building natural gas pipelines, or funding Universities as fighting climate change (mainly because they don't address the root cause)).

BTW, just talking about the U.S. I know other countries have spent a lot on it (e.g., China spent $890 billion in 2023).

How much does it cost to NOT fix it?
One should always look at both sides.

For example, fixing roads is expensive. But not
fixing roads is more expensive as it hurts the
economy. That is we spend $1 to make $10.

How much does climate change cost? One way
to look at it is the increasing costs (adjusted for
inflation) to repair our existing infrastructure
from extreme weather events.

The image shown to the right shows "just" the
frequency of events exceeding a billion to fix,
the image is also a link to the source.

So the global temperature going up (regardless if human-induced or not) is costing us more every year to fix what we have. You say the alarmists are clueless, but maybe they just look at the existing facts and trends to make decisions rather than believe the Merchants of Doubt?

But obviously, it's not just about fixing our infrastructure after the fact. There are other factors that add to the costs such as increased healthcare costs, preventative infrastructure (e.g., keeping cities from flooding), disease, drought mitigation, international instability, and yes, border control.

... theyre just facilitating this overpopulation within our borders....
Fortunately, the U.S. is a country that people want to live in (some countries build walls to keep citizens from escaping). In order to keep the population stable you need about 2.1 kids per family, the U.S. is about 1.6 ... meaning we're on the decline rather than overpopulation and some think it might soon be a crisis. Here's a video on it:

 
”Globalists are seeking to subjugate the world, and to do that they need to undermine the basic tenets of human interaction and understanding. They have allied with the political left in order to blitz the populace with chaos, keeping people distracted and off balance while the powers-that-be wrap their tentacles around every last vestige of private liberty.
Globalists view power in a similar manner to leftists, but they expand on the manifesto with the question “How can we convince others to give us control willingly?”
Woke useful idiots see power as something that must be stolen through intimidation or force. Globalists see power as something that is handed to them by useful idiots. In order to get that power, globalists spend the vast majority of their energy and wealth on the manufacturing of consent. It’s not enough to control the population, you have to make them believe that your oligarchy is THEIR IDEA. That way, they never try to fight back.

For example, look at the recent covid “crisis” and the draconian response that the majority of leftists supported. Also look at the hysterical climate change narratives and the calls for carbon restrictions that would inevitably lead to mass depopulation; once again largely supported by the political left.

Both agendas rely on the notion of an existential threat that requires people to sacrifice their freedoms on a micro-level.
Yet, covid mandates suggest that we need to save the population from death while climate change mandates suggest that we need to kill most of the population to protect the environment. It doesn’t make sense unless you understand that diminishing freedom is the ultimate point. Covid was never about saving lives and climate controls have nothing to do with saving the planet.”
 

'Pure Junk Science': Researchers Challenge Narrative On CO2 And Warming Correlation​


Each year from 2023 to 2030, climate change sustainable development goals will cost every person in economies such as the United States $2,026, the U.N. Conference on Trade and Development estimates. In lower-income economies, the per-person annual cost ranges from $332 to $1,864

CO2 does not cause global warming. Global warming causes more CO2,” said Edwin Berry, a theoretical physicist and certified consulting meteorologist. He called Royal Society’s position on CO2 “pure junk science.”

Ian Clark, emeritus professor for the Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences at the University of Ottawa, agreed that if all greenhouse gas emissions ceased today, the Earth would continue warming—but not because of CO2.

He said that contrary to popular opinion, temperature doesn’t follow CO2—instead, CO2 follows temperature, which, itself, is due to solar activity.

Temperature and CO2​

One of Mr. Clark’s primary areas of research is paleoclimatology (the study of climate conditions using indirect records such as tree ring data, ice cores, and other proxy records), and in particular, Arctic paleohydrogeology, which is the study of the Earth’s water throughout history.

During the ice ages, we had great temperature variations, and this has to do with, not straight-up solar activity, but the amount of solar activity that is hitting the Earth at certain important latitudes, all caused by celestial events,” Mr. Clark said.

“The Earth, in our solar system, is moving around and being jostled. And we have different orbiting patterns that affect solar input, and that creates ice ages and interglacial periods—which we’re in now. And CO2 tracks that. So we'll see enormous temperature changes, going from ice ages to interglacials, and CO2 gets very low during ice ages and very high during interglacials.

“And that gives the appearance that CO2 is driving the climate, but it’s actually following. It lags by about 800 years.”

Mr. Clark said that during ice ages, and particularly the past 10,000 years, scientists have a fairly good idea of the temperature, thanks to proxy records. He said those records show that the Medieval Warm Period was likely much warmer than today, and agriculture and civilization flourished.

But the Little Ice Age followed that from the 1400s to 1800s. “And that’s when we had difficulty with agriculture,” Mr. Clark said.

The Thames froze over. We have all sorts of recollections about how cold, and some would say miserable, it was back then. But then it started warming up again. So, about every 1,000 years or so, we seem to have these fluctuations. This is due to solar activity, and that’s where we see the importance of the sun, which is the ultimate source of energy beyond geothermal and nuclear energy. Solar drives climate.”

Another peer-reviewed study, by scientist William Jackson, examined the relationship between CO2 levels and temperature over the past 425 million years.

Mr. Jackson is a distinguished research and emeritus professor for the department of chemistry at UC–Davis who specializes in understanding the role that molecules such as CO2, nitrogen, and carbon monoxide play in planetary atmospheres.
 
Meanwhile the icepocalypse continues in China as temps plumet a record breaking 52C and freeze birds in place.
Trust, but verify... afterall, it's not ususal to have cold temperatures in February in the northern hemisphere. -52°C is -58°F.

AccuWeather said -4°F (-20°C) and the low was expected to be -8°F. Second souce shown to
the right (also supposedly the airport) agrees.
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So two sites agree, and the one from India seems way different. The Accuweather says it comes from the Airport station. Here's the daily:
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So, not sure I'd trust indiaToday.in.
 
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Gee, -20C in February! End of the world, i tell you!!!
Completely normal in that geographic area.
 
You are looking at the wrong date. It was published in several global sources, but apparently ignored by western msm.
What's the correct date to look at? The india URL has today's date, as does the temperature data from the Airport. That sensationalized data got repeated without fact checking wouldn't surprise me at all, if that's what it really is. Possibly why western outlets ignored it?
 
What's the correct date to look at? The india URL has today's date, as does the temperature data from the Airport. That sensationalized data got repeated without fact checking wouldn't surprise me at all, if that's what it really is. Possibly why western outlets ignored it?
It's below the headline. Notice that was the last story update.
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What's the correct date to look at? The india URL has today's date, as does the temperature data from the Airport. That sensationalized data got repeated without fact checking wouldn't surprise me at all, if that's what it really is. Possibly why western outlets ignored it?

Fact checking? LOL
You can not trust any of these fact checkers, especially when you know things like this



 
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