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I can't seem to charge my 2015 Nissan Leaf!

After a full L1 charge overnight, mine reports only 74 miles @ 100% fully charged. How did you get 110 miles?! Even the literature for the 2015 says only 85 miles after fully charged. I'm guessing these things loose capacity after being cycled for years and years? Anyone know much is expected per year or mileage?

On a Nissan Leaf forum, the general consensus agree on about 5-10% battery degradation every year under normal driving conditions.

In the worst scenario (10%), let's say you get 100 miles on a full charge with a brand new Leaf. Next year, you can expect 90 miles. The year after, 81 miles. The 4th year, 73 miles, then 64 miles, 58 miles, etc.
 
On a Nissan Leaf forum, the general consensus agree on about 5-10% battery degradation every year under normal driving conditions.

In the worst scenario (10%), let's say you get 100 miles on a full charge with a brand new Leaf. Next year, you can expect 90 miles. The year after, 81 miles. The 4th year, 73 miles, then 64 miles, 58 miles, etc.
Well damn. my 2015 when new, says 85miles on full charge, so now its 7yrs old so that brings me down to 40 miles@10%. If I go with a 7.5% degradation, that leaves me at 49.25 miles. I'm wondering how I can get an accurate reading of what a full charge gets me now. When will the leaf actually shut down? At 10% remaining? 5%, 2%? At least with my gas truck, I can toss a can of gas in the bed, and see how far the needle goes before i run dry, and gas back up after. But with an EV?
 
Well damn. my 2015 when new, says 85miles on full charge, so now its 7yrs old so that brings me down to 40 miles@10%. If I go with a 7.5% degradation, that leaves me at 49.25 miles. I'm wondering how I can get an accurate reading of what a full charge gets me now. When will the leaf actually shut down? At 10% remaining? 5%, 2%? At least with my gas truck, I can toss a can of gas in the bed, and see how far the needle goes before i run dry, and gas back up after. But with an EV?
LeafSpy Pro is your friend. I had a 2013 Leaf and went through 2 batteries (original and warranty replacement). Even after babying it at 80% in AZ heat, it was down to 7 bars on the new battery after 5 years. I am now in a Bolt and love active battery cooling. Leaf Spy will give you great readings and will change settings on it as well if you like.
 
LeafSpy Pro is your friend. I had a 2013 Leaf and went through 2 batteries (original and warranty replacement). Even after babying it at 80% in AZ heat, it was down to 7 bars on the new battery after 5 years. I am now in a Bolt and love active battery cooling. Leaf Spy will give you great readings and will change settings on it as well if you like.
Hmm.. well, this is a former AZ leaf, and I am in Vegas, so the heat will def be a factor. I'll look into this LeafSpy Pro.. do I need any hardware for it?
 
Android phone. OBD2 plugin device. I have the Bluetooth LE version. How many bars you have left?
Android check, OBD2, nope.
I think, 6 bars? Is it the bars on the left? 6 out of 10? Plus im getting that little yellow message alert too, but don't know how to retrieve what is causing it..
 

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Android check, OBD2, nope.
I think, 6 bars? Is it the bars on the left? 6 out of 10? Plus im getting that little yellow message alert too, but don't know how to retrieve what is causing it..
The one on the far right side. You have 9 bars left on your battery for capacity. The first bar is 12%, after that each bar is like 6-8%. The yellow light is showing low tire pressure. You might wanna pump them up to 38 PSI or so to help max out range. The range meter is also referred to as the guess-o-meter. You are past the 5 year warranty for battery capacity so you will have to pay out of pocket when you get it replaced. That should be a 30kWh battery yes? I don't think they make those anymore so you would need to goto the 40kWh version.
 
The one on the far right side. You have 9 bars left on your battery for capacity. The first bar is 12%, after that each bar is like 6-8%. The yellow light is showing low tire pressure. You might wanna pump them up to 38 PSI or so to help max out range. The range meter is also referred to as the guess-o-meter. You are past the 5 year warranty for battery capacity so you will have to pay out of pocket when you get it replaced. That should be a 30kWh battery yes? I don't think they make those anymore so you would need to goto the 40kWh version.
Its the 24kWh battery. I don't think I wanna know how much it costs to replace a leaf battery though. is it crazy $$?
 
The leaf will let you continue driving till 1%. It starts warning you at 10% and all sorts of red warning lights appear at that time. In my experience, at 10% you still have about 10 miles until it shuts down. I’m sure it’s really bad to run it that low though.

the battery capacity meter has 12 bars. It is the thin strip of bars on the right. So 9 out of 12 is not bad for a 2015.

I wouldn’t worry too much about the heat. The battery temp meter is on the far left of the dash. Mine has never moved more than a couple of ticks above the middle and certainly never been in the red. I’m in Las Vegas too.
 
The great thing about Las Vegas is nothing is really far away. You can go just about anywhere in less than 25 miles. And lots of free chargers all over town. Most of them are in casino parking lots. I also charge up for free sometimes at NV Energy on W Sahara. You can plug in and run the AC while charging as you take a nap. A couple of hours of charge will get you about 15 miles. Most of them use ChargePoint. Just get the app and sign up for a free account.
 
I wouldn’t worry too much about the heat. The battery temp meter is on the far left of the dash. Mine has never moved more than a couple of ticks above the middle and certainly never been in the red. I’m in Las Vegas too.
Mine was garage kept the entire time. I bought it 10 bars. It dropped 2 bars in 9 months. I qualified for capacity loss warranty and got a "new" lizard battery replacement. I sold it 3 months ago with 7 bars left. Cooling is a HUGE factory with those batteries for longevity. Arizona, Nevada, hot places suck for these cars.
 
I haven't looked into how to bond ground and neutral. If you don't mind, can you detail how you did it on your inverter?
I used a small powerstrip to plug into the inverter for convenience, but basically, I used one of those male extension cord repair ends, jumpered the ground and neutral, plugged it into the strip, then plugged my charger into the strip, and all was good.
 

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The great thing about Las Vegas is nothing is really far away. You can go just about anywhere in less than 25 miles. And lots of free chargers all over town. Most of them are in casino parking lots. I also charge up for free sometimes at NV Energy on W Sahara. You can plug in and run the AC while charging as you take a nap. A couple of hours of charge will get you about 15 miles. Most of them use ChargePoint. Just get the app and sign up for a free account.
So, I hit 2 different charge stations yesterday, one in the walmart superstore in henderson, and another at one of the terrible Herbst gas stations, neither one had the right connector! Mine is the j1772 connector. So I have not been able to charge anywhere but at home, which is ok, because its free here! But still, I wonder if most of these charge stations are compatible with my car
 
So, I hit 2 different charge stations yesterday, one in the walmart superstore in henderson, and another at one of the terrible Herbst gas stations, neither one had the right connector! Mine is the j1772 connector. So I have not been able to charge anywhere but at home, which is ok, because its free here! But still, I wonder if most of these charge stations are compatible with my car
I don't get it J1772 is L2 standard for low speed chargers commercially available....are you hitting fast DC charging stations instead of AC J1772 standard?
 
I used a small powerstrip to plug into the inverter for convenience, but basically, I used one of those male extension cord repair ends, jumpered the ground and neutral, plugged it into the strip, then plugged my charger into the strip, and all was good.
I used a smaller plug, but yes, that is how I got the charger to work.

So, I hit 2 different charge stations yesterday, one in the walmart superstore in henderson, and another at one of the terrible Herbst gas stations, neither one had the right connector! Mine is the j1772 connector. So I have not been able to charge anywhere but at home, which is ok, because its free here! But still, I wonder if most of these charge stations are compatible with my car
Are you talking about the DC fast charge? J1772 is the small plug, the big blue one is CHAdeMO. Are you using the Plugshare app to find charging stations?
 
So, I hit 2 different charge stations yesterday, one in the walmart superstore in henderson, and another at one of the terrible Herbst gas stations, neither one had the right connector! Mine is the j1772 connector. So I have not been able to charge anywhere but at home, which is ok, because its free here! But still, I wonder if most of these charge stations are compatible with my car
I looked up the two stations that you mentioned, near Sunset & Stephanie in Henderson. I think those are the ones that you went to. Just by pure luck (or lack of luck) those two stations only have fast DC chargers, and they use CHAdeMO connectors. They charge $0.30+ per minute to use. My 2012 Leaf has a CHAdeMo connector, but I'm not certain all Leaf models have that. If you go to Sunset Station right across the street from there, in the back parking structure, they have 2 regular J1772 chargers for you to use free of charge. They are located at the closest parking spots next to the elevators on the ground floor. The last time I was there was over two years ago. Back then you can just pull into the spot and plug in without using any app to unlock them. Last I heard all Station Hotels upgraded their EV chargers, so you may need to get an app for whatever system they use now.
 
I used a small powerstrip to plug into the inverter for convenience, but basically, I used one of those male extension cord repair ends, jumpered the ground and neutral, plugged it into the strip, then plugged my charger into the strip, and all was good.
Yikes! That looks dangerous.
 
disclaimer, this approach might damage certain inverters. sorry i don't know which ones.

to charge from a goal zero yeti 3000 unit's inverter, i used these two parts. a ground bond plug and a Y splitter cable.

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i plugged the ground bond part into one of the outlets of the Y splitter.
then plugged the Y-splitter cable into the Inverter Power Out.
then plug the EVSE into the other outlet of the Y splitter.

the yeti inverter does not have a grounding plug. it's just open space, so this modification satisfied the ground neutral bond requirement.

this allowed me to charge from the inverter. i limited charging to 8 amps AC to be safe. it worked.

some inverters might malfunction or become damaged with this modification, but i cannot offer detailed info on which will experience this failure mode.
 
I used a smaller plug, but yes, that is how I got the charger to work.


Are you talking about the DC fast charge? J1772 is the small plug, the big blue one is CHAdeMO. Are you using the Plugshare app to find charging stations?
I did not use the app to find the stations, but it turns out the two I hit were fast charge stations only. My Luck! My leaf only has the j1772 connector, so its L1 or L2 only for me! It came with the 110/120V trickle charge unit, (which actually charges at 11.5A) and I bought a L2 Lectron 240V 16A J1772 unit, so I'm set at home!
 
I looked up the two stations that you mentioned, near Sunset & Stephanie in Henderson. I think those are the ones that you went to. Just by pure luck (or lack of luck) those two stations only have fast DC chargers, and they use CHAdeMO connectors. They charge $0.30+ per minute to use. My 2012 Leaf has a CHAdeMo connector, but I'm not certain all Leaf models have that. If you go to Sunset Station right across the street from there, in the back parking structure, they have 2 regular J1772 chargers for you to use free of charge. They are located at the closest parking spots next to the elevators on the ground floor. The last time I was there was over two years ago. Back then you can just pull into the spot and plug in without using any app to unlock them. Last I heard all Station Hotels upgraded their EV chargers, so you may need to get an app for whatever system they use now.
Cool, ill swing by there and have a look see. So, your 2012 DOES have chademo. My 2015 SV does not! Only J1772. I wonder if that means my onboard charger is the 3.3kw or the 6.6kw just without the optional chademo connector?
 
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