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Losing faith in Victron.

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I think the answer was literal. Dealers aren't responsible for the warranty - simply the customer support/coordination associated with the warranty.

Strange looks like a usa problemen than.

In my country the seller of the unit have full responsibility for the warranty the first 2 years even if the factory only have 1 years.
For the rest we have 30days sent back time if we order somting online.

The 2 years is a EU rule.
 
I'm here! Thank you for the tag! @OffGridIdaho you'd like to send me a DM, I'll have this looked at. If there's a mistake on our part we will of course take care of it!
I had to deal with it myself with my own money. The other dealer I called ordered the part in under 5 minutes while I was on the phone. I am not cutting SS any slack any longer. This nonsense stays posted for all to see. I had to call another Vic dealer and order the Vic warranty Part number for the "known Issue" by Vic and pay with my credit card. When I asked for a manager at SS I was given another tech, a non manager. When I told him I just paid for the warranty part and shipping myself, crickets. No response.

So if the warranty part doesnt fix the problem then you can take the whole thing back. I am done with this inverter. If it does fix the problem then I want to be reimbursed for the money spent.

Oh and by the way SS refused to order the part saying they have no way to order parts. SS also said that they sent an email to Vic 10 days ago and were waiting for a reply.

SS also stated they never got any of the info I sent as well as part numbers that needed to be ordered. I sent a copy of the email that I had sent earlier with all that data and .....crickets again.

So to sum it up,

Kept me waiting 10 days doing nothing with no updates.
Refused to order part. Staing had no way to order.
Said they never got info detailing all issues and part number when they did.
Forced me to buy my own warranty part (another dealer did this in less than 5 minutes)
 
Well, looks like there has been a change. I just looked at the ticket and it seems there was a misunderstanding. We do not carry the warranties for these products, the manufacturers do. We bring the units back, replace them for our customers, and send the malfunctioning ones back to the manufacturer. OP preferred that we send the part he needed as opposed to a whole new unit, but we do not carry and cannot order parts, so we reached out to Victron to see if they could help OP with just a part but unfortunately, their response has been delayed. So it isn't the RMA that took 7 days, but trying to request for a part through us to Victron, which is not a typical request took the time. However, we offered the RMA to replace the unit but this has been postponed. The ticket states that OP has purchased the part from a repair store to try and fix it himself and if that does not work, he would then like to return the unit for a replacement. We're hoping the part fixes the issue and he doesn't have to worry about it, but we will do all we can to minimize any down time he may have if the part doesn't work and we need to RMA :) Fingers crossed it works!! 🤞 🤞 🔧🔧
Yeah this is a half truth, and when did I give you permission to post what I spoke to the reps in private about?

Lets air the truth. When I asked if the serial number range of the defective units would be my replacement, silence on the other end. When I aksed if the replcement unit would be tested, silence on the other end. When I asked if the replacement unit could be scoped for defective signal, silence on the other end. The other end being SS. I had a strong feeling I would just get another "new old stock" unit that also had a defective motherboard. Not wanting to go down that road I asked for the warranty part by Victron.

To quote a very wise friend of mine "it's not a big deal until you make a big deal out of it". SS made this a big deal out of a small request. It was such a simple request, order a part. Solve a problem. If you couldn't do it, then refer me to a dealer who could.

I have my hands full here with our farm and sick animals. One died already. I really do not need all this hassle. Scorching heat and sick animals takes it toll!



The truth is SS wanted the inverter back with NO OFFER OF a replacement. They would take it back and either fix it or replce once they looked at it. And I was supposed to have no power until the new or repaired inverter arrived back. No one offered to send a unit to replace the one I had before I shipped it back. That was only spoken about with the last rep I talked to just a day or two ago. I actually had to ask for that to happen much later and at the tail end of the conversation.

There was never any "misunderstanding". Only excuses and delays on the parts of SS. I was NEVER told they could not order parts, never!

SS refused to order the part much later on which was my first request. I wanted to start small and see if the VICTRON MADE, VICTRON SOLD, NON-THIRD PARTY, PART THAT HAS TO BE ORDERED BY MY RETAIL VICTRON DEALER, would solve the problem vs ripping the MP2 off the wall, packaging it up and driving the 54 miles to town during a heat wave.

I explaind all this to the SS agent I spoke with by email and have all the receipts so to speak. I can start posting them if you want to air dirty laundry without permission? I only wanted to communicate by email because I dont trust verbal non-written words from big companies.

So now, SS is claiming there is NO WAY to order a part MADE BY VICTRON, SOLD BY VICTRON AND IN STOCK IN THE DEALER PORTAL, because thats the way it is. Yet I was able to call a competing dealer and they solved the part odering problem in less then 5 minutes while I was on the phone.

I also told the agent at SS it would be a lot less work to order the factory warranty part prescribed by victron for this issue then to rip the inverter off the wall box it up, drive to town and wait 2-4 weeks for the replacement unit to arrive. No offer of unit while I waited was made.

The SS agent agreed that it would be easier and put the ball in motion to get the part ordred never once telling me they could not order parts.

The SS agent I originally spoke to on day nine asked me for the failure notes and part number again stating that "she never got them". This was on day nine. I became very frustrated at that point and asked for a manager while sending a copy of them first email with all documentation including WARRANTY part numbers.

Now we are at the truth and the last conversation where I was told no parts WARRANTY PARTS, VICTRON DEEMED NECESSARY TO FIX THE PROBLEM, could be ordered.

Bottom line, VICTRON KNEW THESE UNITS WERE BAD, MADE A PART TO FIX IT, BUT DID NOT TELL THE DEALERS AND DID NOT TELL THE DEALERS HOW TO FIX IT. THEY ALLOWED THE DEALERS TO SELL UNITS, IN A SPECIFIC SERIAL NUMBER RANGE THAT WERE KNOW DEFECTIVE!. And the paying customer gets to eat a can of worms trying to get it addressed.

One last parting word, I spoke with 4 reps. Rep one did nothing but trasfer to rep 2. Rep two did nothing but trasfer me to rep 3. Rep 3 very late in the 10 day window offered a replacement and when I asked from the same serial number range as the known problematic motherboards, crickets! When I asked if they would test the inverter before shipping, crickets! When I asked if they could run a scope on the board to test for defective signal, crikets!

SHAME ON VICTRON, SHAME!


So there you have it. This was such an easy thing to rectify and SS turned it a nightmare.
 
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The two distributors who I know of that provide good Victron support is Current Connected and NAZ.
 
I came this close to ordering my recent victron inverted from sig solar. I’d been impressed with the lack of complaints here for a while.

But the “first time customer” $50 off coupon never showed up. Feel like I dodged a bullet.

Hope you get this worked out. Sounds frustrating.
 

OffGridIdaho

Oh good grief who buys stuff from SS that you can get from Current Connected? Will people ever learn? Especially when the price is the same.
I have noticed small price differences. Not big enough to forget how customer service matters. Even IF you can get them to warranty the item....What is your lost time worth.... Is CC still offering extended warranty ?
The two distributors who I know of that provide good Victron support is Current Connected and NAZ.
Agreed.
I came this close to ordering my recent victron inverted from sig solar. I’d been impressed with the lack of complaints here for a while.

But the “first time customer” $50 off coupon never showed up. Feel like I dodged a bullet.

Hope you get this worked out. Sounds frustrating.
I fell for that once. Was also noticing the lower number of complaints. Thought things were indeed better. I dodged the bullet twice also, when their free ship wouldn't work. Hmm... Job security for Jess at least....

I had a similar experience with SS and EG4. EG4 told me their hands were tied and was forced to endure... Eventually I got most most of my money back.

I have 3 Victron products. 2 new from Current connected. 1 used from Marketplace. I am very happy with their quality and performance. Sleep much easier, now that I no longer have a yellow fire hazard hanging on the wall....

For the record. I had to warranty a product from CC, it was painless and done in a timely fashion. Kudos again to Jason...

@OffGridIdaho I would consider changing the title. This is a Victron issue ??? or a distributor review ?
 
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Yeah this is a half truth, and when did I give you permission to post what I spoke to the reps in private about?

Lets air the truth. When I asked if the serial number range of the defective units would be my replacement, silence on the other end. When I aksed if the replcement unit would be tested, silence on the other end. When I asked if the replacement unit could be scoped for defective signal, silence on the other end. The other end being SS. I had a strong feeling I would just get another "new old stock" unit that also had a defective motherboard. Not wanting to go down that road I asked for the warranty part by Victron.

To quote a very wise friend of mine "it's not a big deal until you make a big deal out of it". SS made this a big deal out of a small request. It was such a simple request, order a part. Solve a problem. If you couldn't do it, then refer me to a dealer who could.

I have my hands full here with our farm and sick animals. One died already. I really do not need all this hassle. Scorching heat and sick animals takes it toll!



The truth is SS wanted the inverter back with NO OFFER OF a replacement. They would take it back and either fix it or replce once they looked at it. And I was supposed to have no power until the new or repaired inverter arrived back. No one offered to send a unit to replace the one I had before I shipped it back. That was only spoken about with the last rep I talked to just a day or two ago. I actually had to ask for that to happen much later and at the tail end of the conversation.

There was never any "misunderstanding". Only excuses and delays on the parts of SS. I was NEVER told they could not order parts, never!

SS refused to order the part much later on which was my first request. I wanted to start small and see if the VICTRON MADE, VICTRON SOLD, NON-THIRD PARTY, PART THAT HAS TO BE ORDERED BY MY RETAIL VICTRON DEALER, would solve the problem vs ripping the MP2 off the wall, packaging it up and driving the 54 miles to town during a heat wave.

I explaind all this to the SS agent I spoke with by email and have all the receipts so to speak. I can start posting them if you want to air dirty laundry without permission? I only wanted to communicate by email because I dont trust verbal non-written words from big companies.

So now, SS is claiming there is NO WAY to order a part MADE BY VICTRON, SOLD BY VICTRON AND IN STOCK IN THE DEALER PORTAL, because thats the way it is. Yet I was able to call a competing dealer and they solved the part odering problem in less then 5 minutes while I was on the phone.

I also told the agent at SS it would be a lot less work to order the factory warranty part prescribed by victron for this issue then to rip the inverter off the wall box it up, drive to town and wait 2-4 weeks for the replacement unit to arrive. No offer of unit while I waited was made.

The SS agent agreed that it would be easier and put the ball in motion to get the part ordred never once telling me they could not order parts.

The SS agent I originally spoke to on day nine asked me for the failure notes and part number again stating that "she never got them". This was on day nine. I became very frustrated at that point and asked for a manager while sending a copy of them first email with all documentation including WARRANTY part numbers.

Now we are at the truth and the last conversation where I was told no parts WARRANTY PARTS, VICTRON DEEMED NECESSARY TO FIX THE PROBLEM, could be ordered.

Bottom line, VICTRON KNEW THESE UNITS WERE BAD, MADE A PART TO FIX IT, BUT DID NOT TELL THE DEALERS AND DID NOT TELL THE DEALERS HOW TO FIX IT. THEY ALLOWED THE DEALERS TO SELL UNITS, IN A SPECIFIC SERIAL NUMBER RANGE THAT WERE KNOW DEFECTIVE!. And the paying customer gets to eat a can of worms trying to get it addressed.

One last parting word, I spoke with 4 reps. Rep one did nothing but trasfer to rep 2. Rep two did nothing but trasfer me to rep 3. Rep 3 very late in the 10 day window offered a replacement and when I asked from the same serial number range as the known problematic motherboards, crickets! When I asked if they would test the inverter before shipping, crickets! When I asked if they could run a scope on the board to test for defective signal, crikets!

SHAME ON VICTRON, SHAME!


So there you have it. This was such an easy thing to rectify and SS turned it a nightmare.

I don't know if anyone in this thread has asked yet but what issue are you having with the inverter?
 
OP my take here is your Victron is still operating and the warranty is to address an issue.
You say Victron shipped known issue product. Would you please post where you got that and the documents?
Nearly everything posted has been a SS issue thus far.
 
I don’t know about that.

Victron controls the product line and warranty support through its dealer network. A problem with a victron dealer is a victron problem. If they need to thin the herd, that’s on Victron.
 
I don’t know about that.

Victron controls the product line and warranty support through its dealer network. A problem with a victron dealer is a victron problem. If they need to thin the herd, that’s on Victron.

More people problem.
I see this in my country that people that works just dont care.
Reason people come and go from the works space.
A lot.of people just work parttime till somting new.
But if a dealer have a problem is that not victron.
A dealer is a company that thake a license and thake responsible for the company Victron.

For the rest still no answers about wat the problem is.
A lot people make a small thing a big problem
If its a fan problem with a old new unit .
Thare is a fix from Victron.
Than is the dealer responsable that know what have in stock and have the fix with it.

So now its more a pointing .
 
More people problem.
I see this in my country that people that works just dont care.
Reason people come and go from the works space.
A lot.of people just work parttime till somting new.
But if a dealer have a problem is that not victron.
A dealer is a company that thake a license and thake responsible for the company Victron.

For the rest still no answers about wat the problem is.
A lot people make a small thing a big problem
If its a fan problem with a old new unit .
Thare is a fix from Victron.
Than is the dealer responsable that know what have in stock and have the fix with it.

So now its more a pointing .

It sure would be nice if the OP shared the issue he was having with the unit.

For some reason he wants to keep it a secret.
 
Here is the plug from mine - it takes a medium pull to get it loose and it feels nails on a chalkboard rough. See the little hook on the end of the tab? Doesn't take much.


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Interesting. Mine doesn't have the hook shape. It has the point thing but its not curved like yours, further proving mine is defective. 2nd problem on the same Victron purchase.
 
Did I miss it somewhere? Has the OP shared what issue he is having with the unit?
There is a little green jumper assembly you need to have attached to two pins on the "remote" port in order for the inverter to be on. The OP's jumper was broken and when he tried getting support from SS they were not able to help him. They eventually wanted him to send the entire Multiplus II inverter back instead of getting him the half ounce part ;) so OP called a different dealer and was immediately able to get the part albeit using his own money instead of under warranty from dealer (SS) he purchased the Multiplus II from.

So the "losing faith in Victron" is because Victron is allowing a dealer like SS to sell Victron equipment when the dealer does not provide proper support for Victron equipment.
 
There is a little green jumper assembly you need to have attached to two pins on the "remote" port in order for the inverter to be on. The OP's jumper was broken and when he tried getting support from SS they were not able to help him. They eventually wanted him to send the entire Multiplus II inverter back instead of getting him the half ounce part ;) so OP called a different dealer and was immediately able to get the part albeit using his own money instead of under warranty from dealer (SS) he purchased the Multiplus II from.

So the "losing faith in Victron" is because Victron is allowing a dealer like SS to sell Victron equipment when the dealer does not provide proper support for Victron equipment.

That's a reasonable summation of the thread.
 
Interesting. Mine doesn't have the hook shape. It has the point thing but its not curved like yours, further proving mine is defective. 2nd problem on the same Victron purchase.

A lighter and 20 seconds might correct that, heat it up and bend it
 
There is a little green jumper assembly you need to have attached to two pins on the "remote" port in order for the inverter to be on. The OP's jumper was broken and when he tried getting support from SS they were not able to help him. They eventually wanted him to send the entire Multiplus II inverter back instead of getting him the half ounce part ;) so OP called a different dealer and was immediately able to get the part albeit using his own money instead of under warranty from dealer (SS) he purchased the Multiplus II from.

So the "losing faith in Victron" is because Victron is allowing a dealer like SS to sell Victron equipment when the dealer does not provide proper support for Victron equipment.

Like a Pheonix connector?

Can you explain this better. Are we talking about the male portion of a Pheonix connector?

MultiPlus-II 12_3000_120-50_2x120V (connections)nw.png

Please tell me the removable connector I have circled isn't what the OP is complaining about.
 
If the issue is the jumper wire in the connector then

Ha ha ha ha ha. 😂

I fell for this big time.
 
No, it's not about just the jumper wire. From what I understand, the connector itself won't stay in.

Ok. That makes more sense. I would just glue it in or use a soldering iron to distort the plastic a little so it stays in assuming the issue is with the female portion on the board and not the male part of the plug.
 
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