New Victron Multiplus-II 12/3000/120-50 designed specifically for RVs with 30A/50A input flexibility available MARCH 2021

[fafrd]

Maybe, but there are likely better, cheaper solutions that are 24 and 48V.

The price, at least for thus 12V model, is one of the attractions. Most of the backup/hybrid inverters I’ve looked at cost multiple thousands of dollars (some over $10K).

If you know of a 24V hybrid inverter with the quality of a Victron and costing less than the $1500 they are asking for this 12V model, please pass it along.

The Magnum PAE inverter I was considering costs over $4000...

With "designed specifically for RVs" in the subject, I was speaking directly to the target audience. Additionally, the large diagrams with the voltages/currents listed in their headings are also self-explanatory.

Worth considering that your efforts to engage in the thread might have been a little lackadaisical

Oh, my comment was directed at Victron, not at you.

Voctron is an interesting company and has the potential for a much wider market than they serve. The early success in boating and RVs has made them gun shy about recognizing how well-suited many of their product offerings could be for the residential solar market.

Specing this new product in RV-speak rather than using terms any electrician or solar hobbies could recognize is yet another example...

 

[snoobler]

The price, at least for thus 12V model, is one of the attractions. Most of the backup/hybrid inverters I’ve looked at cost multiple thousands of dollars (some over $10K).

If you know of a 24V hybrid inverter with the quality of a Victron and costing less than the $1500 they are asking for this 12V model, please pass it along.

The Magnum PAE inverter I was considering costs over $4000...

Oh, my comment was directed at Victron, not at you.

Voctron is an interesting company and has the potential for a much wider market than they serve. The early success in boating and RVs has made them gun shy about recognizing how well-suited many of their product offerings could be for the residential solar market.

Specing this new product in RV-speak rather than using terms any electrician or solar hobbies could recognize is yet another example...

Magnum Energy MSH4024RE 4000W 24V Inverter/Charger

Magnum Energy MSH4024RE 4000 Watt, 24 Volt Hybrid Inverter

www.altestore.com

 

[LanduytG]

Your spliting hairs. So it's all in one box now. Do you think the new one will the same price as the old? I think not.

Greg

 

[snoobler]

Your spliting hairs. So it's all in one box now. Do you think the new one will the same price as the old? I think not.

Greg

Not at all. You're being dismissive about a critical detail that may mislead others. If that detail is omitted and one tried to switch back and forth between 30/50A power sources freely, the outcome would be... exciting.

The price is listed.

 

[fafrd]

Magnum Energy MSH4024RE 4000W 24V Inverter/Charger

Magnum Energy MSH4024RE 4000 Watt, 24 Volt Hybrid Inverter

www.altestore.com

That’s 120V only, isn’t it? No way to pass-through 240V split-phase, is there?

I was looking at the PAE because it could handle 240V split-phase (but it’s quite a bit pricier).

 

[LanduytG]

Not at all. You're being dismissive about a critical detail that may mislead others. If that detail is omitted and one tried to switch back and forth between 30/50A power sources freely, the outcome would be... exciting.

The price is listed.

You don't have to have the $600 ad on. You can do it with a $40 switch. The fact is it works the same as the new.

Greg

 

[Jennifer]

Re.....Yes, Full 50A. In 30A mode, you get power assist to both legs accomplishing what you wanted......

I recall them saying power assist would only be on L1 or AC1 or something to that affect, was on another call, so plan accordingly, check the spec sheet. If they were referring to 50Amp, disregard.

 

[Firstascent]

I've been waiting for this for a long time for my fifth wheel toy hauler RV, I've been emailing Victron every couple months for a year now asking about this haha, I just randomly checked their website last night and saw it on there and was going to post something up but I see you're ahead of it and with much better initial info than I would've had

I truly wanted a 24V system but I also don't want to wait any longer, if the 24v/120v even ever comes. I currently have 16, 280aH LiFePO4 batteries so can configure them in 12v easily, and will only be running 14-1500W (most likely 4 LG 350W panels) of solar panels so this could still handle it.

I'm actually 2 weeks in to my first boondocking experience and it sure would be nice to have the extra battery power right now haha.
I was hoping it'd be closer to $1500 but is what it is. I'm excited this is finally a real product.

 

[Jennifer]

I truly wanted a 24V system but I also don't want to wait any longer, if the 24v/120v even ever comes. I currently have 16, 280aH LiFePO4 batteries so can configure them in 12v easily, and will only be running 14-1500W (most likely 4 LG 350W panels) of solar panels so this could still handle it.

I'm actually 2 weeks in to my first boondocking experience and it sure would be nice to have the extra battery power right now haha.
I was hoping it'd be closer to $1500 but is what it is. I'm excited this is finally a real product.

They said during the announcement webcast that if there was enough demand, they would consider a 24 / 48 volt version, so don't stop pinging them, the more that request one, the better your chances..

Welcome to boon docking... I'm just over a year living 100% off grid in the Arizona desert on 65 acres of land I purchased near the Grand Canyon.... would lover live back in the Shitty again.. oh sorry, I mean City.

Presently running Victron and Schneider equipment with Tesla model S modules, EVTV BMS just ordered and 8 100Ah Battle Born lithiums while I build out my fire starter (the Teslas).

Jen

 

[Firstascent]

They said during the announcement webcast that if there was enough demand, they would consider a 24 / 48 volt version, so don't stop pinging them, the more that request one, the better your chances..

Welcome to boon docking... I'm just over a year living 100% off grid in the Arizona desert on 65 acres of land I purchased near the Grand Canyon.... would lover live back in the Shitty again.. oh sorry, I mean City.

Presently running Victron and Schneider equipment with Tesla model S modules, EVTV BMS just ordered and 8 100Ah Battle Born lithiums while I build out my fire starter (the Teslas).

Jen

I will definitely keep pinging then about a 24v version but for now I’m finally comfortable moving forward with the multiplus II. I just knew it was coming and I would have regretted it if I got the multiplus and then this came out shortly after haha.
and I can use all of the space savings possible which was a big part of wanting to wait for this one.
Depending on true availability I think I’ll be trying to get my hands on one in the next few weeks. I’ll finally be able to really test my batteries and BMS, I’m pretty excited about this!
And thanks, I’m loving boondocking. I’m able to stay exactly where I want to be right now and not have to worry about RV park availability. Not that I hate RV parks, it’s been a fun experience, but sometimes it’s difficult trying to plan when and where to go next.
Grand Canyon is a beautiful area, I just passed through there but now I’m hanging out in southern Utah.

 

[Jennifer]

I will definitely keep pinging then about a 24v version but for now I’m finally comfortable moving forward with the multiplus II. I just knew it was coming and I would have regretted it if I got the multiplus and then this came out shortly after haha.
and I can use all of the space savings possible which was a big part of wanting to wait for this one.
Depending on true availability I think I’ll be trying to get my hands on one in the next few weeks. I’ll finally be able to really test my batteries and BMS, I’m pretty excited about this!
And thanks, I’m loving boondocking. I’m able to stay exactly where I want to be right now and not have to worry about RV park availability. Not that I hate RV parks, it’s been a fun experience, but sometimes it’s difficult trying to plan when and where to go next.
Grand Canyon is a beautiful area, I just passed through there but now I’m hanging out in southern Utah.

End of March should be available.... sorry for typo above, meant would never live back in the city.

 

[InMyImage]

I seem to recall someone on the forum saying they are a Victron distributer, does anyone know who that might be?

 

[HaldorEE]

Interesting... I’ll have to watch the webinar to see if they explain how it is actually different from the current MultiPlus II other than the chassis because I don’t see any features that stand out to me as different...

Handles split phase power for your RV.

• If plugged into a 230V Split phase power output, you get 230V (two 120V banks is powered)
• If operating off the inverter each 120V bank is powered from the same 120V output of the inverter. No 230VAC (which virtually no RV in the USA use), but the inverter handles switching modes for you.

 

[luckielab]

I seem to recall someone on the forum saying they are a Victron distributer, does anyone know who that might be?

The_colorist, I think.

 

[overclocked92]

Where can I find the webinar covering the introduction of this?

I am just starting to wade into this and am thinking 24v in my 50 amp RV and TxGlader suggested I look into this new Victron. I didn't realize it was 12v only. What is the difference between this and MultiPlus-II 24/3000/70-32 that I'm missing?

 

[Firstascent]

Where can I find the webinar covering the introduction of this?

I am just starting to wade into this and am thinking 24v in my 50 amp RV and TxGlader suggested I look into this new Victron. I didn't realize it was 12v only. What is the difference between this and MultiPlus-II 24/3000/70-32 that I'm missing?

This new MultiPlus-II is big news because it's the first MPII to offer 120VAC output. All of the other MPII's released previously are only 230v. So if you're in the U.S. they are of no use to you

So if you want MPII, you're stuck with 12v. if you want 24v then you have to go to the "older" standard MultiPlus.

I'm with ya though, I wanted to do a 24v setup for my 50amp RV as well, but now going to do 12v specifically because I want the MPII.

 

[overclocked92]

This new MultiPlus-II is big news because it's the first MPII to offer 120VAC output. All of the other MPII's released previously are only 230v. So if you're in the U.S. they are of no use to you

So if you want MPII, you're stuck with 12v. if you want 24v then you have to go to the "older" standard MultiPlus.

I'm with ya though, I wanted to do a 24v setup for my 50amp RV as well, but now going to do 12v specifically because I want the MPII.

Ahhhh.... 230v.... 120v... thank you Mr. Obvious, I didn't catch that....... I went to the victron site looking for 24v, found the data sheet I linked and thought "Well it is right there, what am I missing?" 220, 221 what ever it takes

Oh well, 12 volts it is then. TxGlade just posted his design, that may be the best starting point for me. TxGlade Design

 

[carbon60]

Anyone think it is safe to assume a 24V model is coming before, say, August when my Sprinter is delivered?

 

[Firstascent]

Ahhhh.... 230v.... 120v... thank you Mr. Obvious, I didn't catch that....... I went to the victron site looking for 24v, found the data sheet I linked and thought "Well it is right there, what am I missing?" 220, 221 what ever it takes

Oh well, 12 volts it is then. TxGlade just posted his design, that may be the best starting point for me. TxGlade Design

haha, happy to help

Anyone think it is safe to assume a 24V model is coming before, say, August when my Sprinter is delivered?

I'm going to guess no given that the word is it's a possibility if there is enough interest.

Over a year ago they told me the 12V is almost ready and is for sure coming "in a couple months". So that was a known product and it took them this long. But if I were you since you do have some time to wait, I'd hold out as long as possible just in case a miracle happens, but don't hold your breathe too long.

 

[overclocked92]

haha, happy to help


I'm going to guess no given that the word is it's a possibility if there is enough interest.

Over a year ago they told me the 12V is almost ready and is for sure coming "in a couple months". So that was a known product and it took them this long. But if I were you since you do have some time to wait, I'd hold out as long as possible just in case a miracle happens, but don't hold your breathe too long.

Send Victron an email asking about a 24v model, I already have, maybe we can get them moving that direction quicker.