Alkaline
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Take your receipt to your secretary of state / treasure and ask for a refund, if they refuse during filing for local taxes put it in your deduction and include a copy of the receipt.
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State sales tax being wrongly collected by equipment vendors, check your states laws!.
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Take your receipt to your secretary of state / treasure and ask for a refund, if they refuse during filing for local taxes put it in your deduction and include a copy of the receipt.
Alkaline
Solar Wizard
Only if you have sufficient sales in that state, if you do less than 100K of sales then you aren't required, its called economic nexus:
Economic Nexus State Chart - State by State Economic Nexus Rules | Sales Tax Institute
Key information such as effective dates, thresholds, and includable sales for out-of-state sellers making sales into states that have enacted economic nexus legislation both before and after the South Dakota v. Wayfair Supreme Court decision.
www.salestaxinstitute.com
basically its one of the few times a small seller has advantage over a larger one, as you can get automatic 5-11% off.
Onehand
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Before I send the tax refund form in, along with all the receipts they want, I have a question into my states tax authority asking if the small parts in the system like breakers, electrical components, hardware, etc are all also exempt. Should be as I see it, as it's all part of the completed system. Also asked of tools purchased and required for installation are exempt. What the hell, might as well go for it all. Save all your receipts if you plan to go back after your taxing authority and make copies for yourself, you will not get them back.
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Onehand
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Quite the little system they have, isn't it. Oh to be a subject to the Crown...
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nobody in this business has sold less than $100k in any stateOnly if you have sufficient sales in that state, if you do less than 100K of sales then you aren't required, its called economic nexus:
Economic Nexus State Chart - State by State Economic Nexus Rules | Sales Tax Institute
Key information such as effective dates, thresholds, and includable sales for out-of-state sellers making sales into states that have enacted economic nexus legislation both before and after the South Dakota v. Wayfair Supreme Court decision.
basically its one of the few times a small seller has advantage over a larger one, as you can get automatic 5-11% off.
Hedges
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Looks like California discounts sales tax by 3.9375%
Purchase of solar panels should almost certainly quality. Inverters, depends on what you use them for. It appears wire, electrical boxes, transformers, etc. can also quality. The retailer couldn't know. Probably best if the person who qualifies for the benefit can file for a refund. Not sure if there is a way on state income tax return. Maybe, they do collect tax there.
Purchase of solar panels should almost certainly quality. Inverters, depends on what you use them for. It appears wire, electrical boxes, transformers, etc. can also quality. The retailer couldn't know. Probably best if the person who qualifies for the benefit can file for a refund. Not sure if there is a way on state income tax return. Maybe, they do collect tax there.
Alkaline
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epochbatteries
ezeal (charge in TX)
18650batterystore
sunfunkits
batteryhookup (few states)
solarsupplyhouse
sirkobatteries
Imrbatteries (i'm in TX so they charge local)
shopsolarkits
currentconnected doesn't to many states
I would venture to say the vast majority do not charge sales except in there home state. Sig Solar is just a lot bigger than many others.
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green mountain boys
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Destination vs Origin states add another layer of complexity.
https://www.fbasalestax.com/origin-and-destination-sales-tax-states/
How does a business know a the beginning of the fiscal year if they are going to be below the nexus threshold for each state? When and how to you decide to collect the sales tax? Do you refund the collected sales tax if you fail to meet the threshold for each state at the end of the year? It is a nightmare.
https://www.fbasalestax.com/origin-and-destination-sales-tax-states/
How does a business know a the beginning of the fiscal year if they are going to be below the nexus threshold for each state? When and how to you decide to collect the sales tax? Do you refund the collected sales tax if you fail to meet the threshold for each state at the end of the year? It is a nightmare.
kayakingphotos
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On the Vermont income tax form Line 21 is where you report use tax for taxable items where no sales tax was collected. Including items purchased online where no use tax was collected
So yeah, you have to pay I still on items that should have had tax collected. How many people actually self report the correct amount is yet to be seen….
Firstrapid
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Trying to get the CO Dept of Revenue to respond to anything is exasperating. It's run by Democrats?
Firstrapid
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Or just buy your Stuff from vendors that have the balls to do the right thing and not charge the tax in the first place. And. Do they return the money to customers so wrongly taxed? I bet not!
Firstrapid
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In CO there is an allowance for that situation
Hedges
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Don't think it is any harm if a vendor collects and turns in sales tax even though sales for the year are low enough that it was not required. Just means the customer isn't required to make the payment themselves.
Often, tax situations are based on prior year figures, e.g. our IRS pre-payment requirements. Don't know about sales tax collection.
Everybody needs to be very careful not to get hit with penalties so better for them to pay though not required, rather than not pay as required. Like employers who hire contractors - if later deemed employees they owe a bunch of taxes. Yet, if someone is an independent contractor, they are required to pay both employer and employee halves of social security tax. But on net income, not gross revenue, so they get to deduct expenses first. California says if your employees do certain work at a site (or in the company?) then anyone brought in to do same work is an employee not a contractor. Perhaps it is different if you present a business license. We have lots of contract employees, where the company hires a labor-ready type firm to provide workers who are then employees of that company.
Often, tax situations are based on prior year figures, e.g. our IRS pre-payment requirements. Don't know about sales tax collection.
Everybody needs to be very careful not to get hit with penalties so better for them to pay though not required, rather than not pay as required. Like employers who hire contractors - if later deemed employees they owe a bunch of taxes. Yet, if someone is an independent contractor, they are required to pay both employer and employee halves of social security tax. But on net income, not gross revenue, so they get to deduct expenses first. California says if your employees do certain work at a site (or in the company?) then anyone brought in to do same work is an employee not a contractor. Perhaps it is different if you present a business license. We have lots of contract employees, where the company hires a labor-ready type firm to provide workers who are then employees of that company.
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several of those I know do charge in al states without exemption, and are working through exemptions just like us.
if somebody sells a large volume of gear and doesnt start collecting they are breaking the law and ripping off the taxpayers in the state they ship to. not going to last for too long
nightmare is a nice word for t
Zwy
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Iowa is exempt on wind, solar and hydro but I still find vendors that want to charge for it.
peakbagger
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BTW, up until next December NH still has the Dividends and Interest tax
And of course the huge unfunded school tax on property poor towns but the governor and legislature do not talk about that until the court forces them to. https://newhampshirebulletin.com/20...e is sending too,$3,256 per student each year.
Alkaline
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Most of the time your credit card processor like stripe will notify you most states require credit card companies to automatically notify them when the threshold is met if they don't the credit card processor itself gets in trouble.
I worked in a data center for 10+ years PCI, Credit Card Compliance, and various other things, there is no getting around it.
I worked in a data center for 10+ years PCI, Credit Card Compliance, and various other things, there is no getting around it.
Alkaline
Solar Wizard
Well you can use a company called Avalara that is supposed to know all these rules, but hardly anyone does.
Yes the consumer gets screwed. Originally the threshold was supposed to be a 1 million per state but Amazon and walmart made sure it was low because they are taxed everywhere and they couldn't stand seeing small websites being able to sell without charging sales tax. I'm sure they are actively lobbying to get that threshold even lower maybe to like 25K. The states sure would be more than happy if that happens, more money for them.