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New Solar Assistant beta 2024-04-05 and stable 2024-01-23 software released

Interesting. I was looking at switching to grid on a specific SOC coming from my victron smart shunt fed to SA.

It seems that SA doesnt consider the Victron smart shunt in its automation and uses the inverter SOS value instead.

This would work for me if it used the Victron shunt SOC and not the EG4 6000xp
I'm using the smart shunt. It's totally separate from the inverter using the Victron USB cable.

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Yes, but it's more effort.
Before, I could get there in two clicks.
Now, it's a click > scroll & find > click.
Harder while driving. lol
"Pulled over by a Cop, Excuse me sir, Have you been Solar Configuring while driving this afternoon? That's a confinement from Solar for 10 days". :ROFLMAO:
 
Any disappointments upgrading from the 01-23 beta?
I often (daily) manually switch output source between SBU and Utility First (bypass). The older version remembered the last state and was one touch away from the present state. Now it’s a 3 step process, probably makes me use my brain for an extra 5 seconds. At my age, that’s a lot to ask. 😆

On the other hand, the automations have already saved me from building a high voltage disconnect for the PV array, so it’s a fair trade.
 
On the other hand, the automations have already saved me from building a high voltage disconnect for the PV array, so it’s a fair trade.
I would probably feel the same way, if I were going to use any of the automations.
 
On the other hand, the automations have already saved me from building a high voltage disconnect for the PV array, so it’s a fair trade.
What automation allowed you to do that? Some "crude" automations were added for my inverters with this beta release. With what's there, I don't see how what you describe would be possible, but I may be missing something.
 
I often (daily) manually switch output source between SBU and Utility First (bypass). The older version remembered the last state and was one touch away from the present state. Now it’s a 3 step process, probably makes me use my brain for an extra 5 seconds. At my age, that’s a lot to ask. 😆

On the other hand, the automations have already saved me from building a high voltage disconnect for the PV array, so it’s a fair trade.
Thank you. Hmmm might just stay in 01-23, if it ain't broke...

I would probably feel the same way, if I were going to use any of the automations.
I'm only using 1 of them and it's been working well to throttle current when cells hit 3.45V.
 

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Batteries throttle the current on their own, as the set voltage is reached.
I don't need an automation for that.
The only automation I will have, will be for excess production.
And that will be controlled by voltage monitoring relays.
I'm old school. I don't trust technology. (It doesn't like me)
 
What automation allowed you to do that? Some "crude" automations were added for my inverters with this beta release. With what's there, I don't see how what you describe would be possible, but I may be missing something.
The Growatt has a flaw in the mppt that after absorption voltage is reached, in my case 52.2 volts, charge current doesn’t completely shut off. On a cloudy day when I’m running in grid bypass, roughly 20 - 30 watts is still being applied to the batteries. Over the course of the day, the battery voltage just keeps slowly increasing and if I don’t either disconnect the PV array or bleed off some power from the batteries, eventually I’ll get a cell high voltage shutdown in a BMS. If it continues, it’s just a matter of time before all four batteries will go offline. I’ve been brainstorming a high voltage disconnect to control a relay in the PV lines to disconnect them if the battery voltage goes above 57 volts. The new code allows me to set up an automation that says if the battery voltage increases from 57 to 57.2 volts, it commands the inverter to switch from grid bypass to SBU…thus pulling the voltage back down to normal.
 
The Growatt has a flaw in the mppt that after absorption voltage is reached, in my case 52.2 volts, charge current doesn’t completely shut off. On a cloudy day when I’m running in grid bypass, roughly 20 - 30 watts is still being applied to the batteries. Over the course of the day, the battery voltage just keeps slowly increasing and if I don’t either disconnect the PV array or bleed off some power from the batteries, eventually I’ll get a cell high voltage shutdown in a BMS. If it continues, it’s just a matter of time before all four batteries will go offline. I’ve been brainstorming a high voltage disconnect to control a relay in the PV lines to disconnect them if the battery voltage goes above 57 volts. The new code allows me to set up an automation that says if the battery voltage increases from 57 to 57.2 volts, it commands the inverter to switch from grid bypass to SBU…thus pulling the voltage back down to normal.
I'm curious about why you would be in bypass when the batteries are full.

And more importantly. Why you haven't returned the faulty AIO.
 
That's weird.
I wonder how that happened.
Im sure its a 6000xp thing. There is no "mode" on the 6000xp, No solar first, battery first, no UPS mode.... Its all set with voltages or SOC.

But if you have any battery besides a handful of supported ones, you are forced to use lead acid mode. The SOC percentage in the 5 months I have been using the 6000xp has never been higher than 72 or lower than 48. The SOC in the 6000xp, in the forced lead acid configuration, is completely useless for automation.
 
I'm curious about why you would be in bypass when the batteries are full.

And more importantly. Why you haven't returned the faulty AIO.
I don’t have a lot of PV, only 3250 watts. On a cloudy day…or week, I’ll just be draining the batteries. Murphy never sleeps so I’m sure the grid power will go out when my batteries are down around 20% and I’ll end up running the generator.

I have two SPF series Growatts and they both do the same thing regarding the current leak. I’ve seen a few others here on the forum report the same behavior. I’m not sure if it’s a hardware or software problem, I suspect hardware. Growatt tech support is clueless. Both are out of warranty and the 12k unit weighs close to 200 pounds. Mounting it high on the wall where I needed it was a major effort and I have no desire to take it down unless I absolutely have to.
 
Im sure its a 6000xp thing. There is no "mode" on the 6000xp, No solar first, battery first, no UPS mode.... Its all set with voltages or SOC.

But if you have any battery besides a handful of supported ones, you are forced to use lead acid mode. The SOC percentage in the 5 months I have been using the 6000xp has never been higher than 72 or lower than 48. The SOC in the 6000xp, in the forced lead acid configuration, is completely useless for automation.
If you have Solar Assistant set to use the Smart Shunt for battery.
I would expect it to use that for everything.
That's how mine works.
 
I don’t have a lot of PV, only 3250 watts. On a cloudy day…or week, I’ll just be draining the batteries. Murphy never sleeps so I’m sure the grid power will go out when my batteries are down around 20% and I’ll end up running the generator.

I have two SPF series Growatts and they both do the same thing regarding the current leak. I’ve seen a few others here on the forum report the same behavior. I’m not sure if it’s a hardware or software problem, I suspect hardware. Growatt tech support is clueless. Both are out of warranty and the 12k unit weighs close to 200 pounds. Mounting it high on the wall where I needed it was a major effort and I have no desire to take it down unless I absolutely have to.
Definitely an odd situation. I would be afraid to leave it running unattended.
Maybe use a separate SCC.
 
The main change for me with the 2024-01-23 release was correctly managing changes of time zone (e.g. heading into or out of daylight saving time) and how that data was managed with Home Assistant. It used to chuck a little hissy fit and leave you without interval data until it next reset on the following Monday morning.

I doubt I'll use the inbuilt automations, at least not for now. I need the extra flexibility of Home Assistant automations.

It's still there:
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I presently use “Maintain Battery State Of Charge” on MPP 6548’s. (Not updated) I’ve noticed screenshots are different. Where mine shows Solar/Utility/Battery others shows “Utility First”. I’d much rather have that because if it isn’t totally still dark and PV sees any power my grid charge drops to next to nothing and and the weak sunlight doesn’t cut it. Is this part of the update, do I need to change it somewhere else or is this just the way Voltronic/Solar Assistant rolls? What mine looks like. IMG_1354.jpeg
 
That's what I already miss.
Clicking on the current mode (in blue), takes you straight to the inverter settings page.
It's gone, in the latest update.
 
That's what I already miss.
Clicking on the current mode (in blue), takes you straight to the inverter settings page.
It's gone, in the latest update.
It’s the little things. We are creatures of habit, sometimes it’s hard to unlearn 🙄. At work they wanted to replace the whole controller because I wore out the keypad, and I’m freaking out (old dog and new tricks thing). A fellow employee found a new keypad online, thank god.
 
Automation support added for our SRNE / Sungold 10k AIO’s. I appreciate that from the SA Team. These basic automation rules have made all the difference for my modest little setup88607820-D6DD-457A-9D67-B8AA0538C57C.jpeg927C6AA6-3494-40D4-97C3-8EE7D47ABCD7.jpeg
 
That's what I already miss.
Clicking on the current mode (in blue), takes you straight to the inverter settings page.
It's gone, in the latest update.
Are you using the latest stable or latest beta?
I use that feature all the time in the 01-23 beta.
Click / tap Screenshot_20240407-062726.jpgand you're at the inverter dashboard.

A workaround for you might be adding the link for your dashboard as a favorite on your home screen.
https://"your site here".us.solar-assistant.io/inverter/status

Using duckduckgo browser I tap the menu dots for the page I'm on then add to home screen.
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Are you using the latest stable or latest beta?
I use that feature all the time in the 01-23 beta.
1-23 stable
Click / tap
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and you're at the inverter dashboard.
Same
but, not referring to the dashboard.
I used to be able to get to the inverter settings, from the quick link on the top of the power management page.
Now the only way is to scroll down on the SA settings page.
add to home screen.
Yes, I do that too.
I love shortcuts. Screenshot_20240407_072657_One UI Home.jpg
 

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