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Can Solar & Wind Fix Everything (e.g., Climate Change) with a battery break-through?

Oh and BTW, I think reducing oil and fossil use is an excellent agenda. Fossil fuels are finite and should be preserved for a rainy day. They also cause other types of air pollution albeit, they are pretty much addressed but still an issue.


Svets and other libtard tactics drive people away and make them want to do the opposite even though we agree on the core concept.

The reduction of fossil fuel use.
 
Oh and BTW, I think reducing oil and fossil use is an excellent agenda. Fossil fuels are finite and should be preserved for a rainy day. They also cause other types of air pollution albeit, they are pretty much addressed but still an issue.


Svets and other libtard tactics drive people away and make them want to do the opposite even though we agree on the core concept.

The reduction of fossil fuel use.

Let nature and truly free markets sort this out.
At this point i would be much more worried about chemical pollution and messing with mother nature (mrna tech, geoengineering, bioengineering, etc) - these things are a lot more dangerous and damaging to our planet, but you dont hear a peep on this from the libtard crowd.
Conventional fuels (I like this much better than fossil which may or maynot be accurate) actually enable most of our modern civilization, and given the constant fear mongering from the powers that be (who themselves triple down on their energy usage while saying to plebes conserve), i dont think very much of it is true.
 

As most self respecting scientists know, man-made carbon dioxide has virtually no effect on the climate. It is a good gas essential to animals and plant life. Provided dirty emissions are cleaned up, we should be using our substantial store of fossil fuels while we develop a mix of alternatives including nuclear power to generate energy. There is no climate crisis, it has always changed and we have always adapted to it. In the Ordovician ice age atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were 4000 ppm and have been 15 times higher than now. There was no industrial revolution then to be the cause . The present quantity of man-made carbon dioxide is insignificant compared with water vapour or clouds which comprise a vast majority of green-house gases. Man has no control over the climate. Statistically we are overdue a period of cooling.The sun and our distance from it have by far the most effect. Most importantly, the Net-Zero (carbon dioxide) Policy will not do anything to change it. Countries like China, Russia and India are sensibly ignoring this and using their fossil fuels. They will be delighted at how the west is letting the power elites, mainstream media and government implement this Policy and the World Order Agenda 21, to needlessly impoverish us as well as causing great hardship and suffering.
 
Petrodollars
When Nixon, in 1971, eliminated all links to gold it effectively ended the "gold standard". The U.S. became a "fiat" currency, but we also made substantial deals forming the "petrodollar". In 2000 Sadam Hussein announced that Iraq would no longer sell oil in "U.S. dollars" it was a significant departure from the norm, some even suggesting it was one of the factors that led in part to the U.S. invasion (ref).

As we wean ourselves off fossil fuels for energy (we'll still need them for other products like plastic), what happens? Will it have far-reaching implications (ref)? Or, is just noise? What do you think?

...I'm guessing gen X..
"boomer and older" category for me. I only became a convert when I actually looked into the science.
 

Electrification Without the Infrastructure​

As state and federal policies mandate the electrification of virtually all end uses to reduce carbon emissions from fossil fuels. For example, 18 states have adopted California’s Advanced Clear Car II rules requiring increasing percentages of new vehicle sales to be EVs, reaching 100% for the 2035 model year. In 2019, New York City enacted Local Law 97, which requires all residential buildings larger than 25,000 square feet to convert to electricity by 2035. Other states, such as New Jersey seek to convert all residential heating to electricity.

Together, mandates for electric vehicles (EVs) and electrification of space and water heat will likely double electricity consumption and peak demand. Coupled with policies that mandate supplying the nation’s electricity with zero-emissions resources, notably intermittent wind and solar power, not only will electricity prices continue to increase but the ability to meet consumers’ increased demand will become more problematic.

One would assume that mandates requiring consumers to switch to electricity would recognize the need for the additional infrastructure needed to meet increased demand. One would be wrong. Not just the additional generating resources to replace the coal and natural gas plants being shuttered, but also the new transmission lines, transformers, and upgraded distribution lines that will be needed to handle the increased loads, especially when demand peaks, such as in the early evening hours.

That infrastructure will be costly. The infrastructure needed for an all-EV future alone will likely cost between$2 and $4 trillion. Additional infrastructure to handle increased demand from switching space and water heat to electric heat pumps, as policymakers have proposed, will drive costs even higher.

The OPEC oil embargoes of the 1970s clearly demonstrated the link between energy prices and economic growth. By increasing the cost to produce most goods and services, the embargoes exacerbated inflation and caused the U.S. economy to fall into recession. The same relationship holds for electricity, especially as electricity becomes the “fuel” for more end uses: higher electric prices mean reduced economic growth, leading to a lower standard of living and greater economic hardship for consumers.

Among the nation’s electric grid operators, the twin policies of forcing greater electrification and requiring it to be met primarily with intermittent wind and solar generation are creating concerns that reliability will suffer, leading to widescale blackouts. For example, the New York Independent System Operator estimates that it will need almost 30,000 MW – roughly the size of 30 nuclear plants – of “Dispatchable Emissions-free Resources” by 2030. Although NYISO states that DEFRs are “not yet available on a commercial scale,” in fact, they don’t exist. Assuming a non-existent generating technology will be invented, commercialized, and deployed on a large scale in just six years is a technological and economic fantasy.

Hence, to address the lack of needed electric infrastructure, instead policymakers plan to restrict access to the electricity they have decreed consumers must use. The idea is to “manage” electricity demand rather than build the infrastructure necessary to allow consumers access to the electricity they need when they need it.

For residential customers the mechanisms to do so include time-of-use pricing, akin to the “surge” pricing used by Uber, which raises prices when demand is greatest; and direct load control, whereby utilities control when and how much consumers can use their large electric-consuming appliances. Home EV chargers will be the largest electricity users for many households and as they proliferate, they will impose the greatest demand on local grids. Another idea is for local utilities to use EVs as resources – draining EV batteries when the utility requires additional electricity to meet demand.

For large commercial and industrial customers, it includes interruptible contracts, whereby the local utility or grid operator can shut off the customer’s electricity for a specified duration in exchange for a lower electricity price.

Electricity consumption can be “managed” or even reduced by restricting consumers’ access to it or by charging prohibitively high prices when they most want that access. But doing so has a real economic cost, which policymakers have ignored.

The result will be greater consumer inconvenience, higher costs, lower economic growth, and greater economic hardship. While some environmentalists may consider such an outcome a “feature” and not a “bug,” presumably most consumers will not.
 

Peak Summer Arrives With Maximum Climate Fear By MSM​


It's peak summer, which means leftist corporate media outlets are ramping up climate propaganda, pushing the 'hottest day' ever headlines, and of course, blaming 'cow farts' and petrol-powered vehicles.

Bloomberg data shows that headlines featuring the 'hottest day' ever in corporate media soared this month. This spike in climate doom headlines is an annual occurrence in July for the Lower 48.



Welcome to peak summer.




This year, climate alarmists claimed Earth experienced record heat. However, much of the data goes back several decades, not thousands of years, considering the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Climate alarmists continue to push short-term data, some of which derive temperature data from sensors located in airports and cities full of asphalt and concrete.

Just in... https://t.co/0g3B1aDl6S confirms my video:

1. Climate hoaxers claim July 21, 2024 was the 'hottest day ever' at 62.76°F (17.09°C).

2. But the average of surface station measurments on that day was actually 56.96°F (13.87°C) almost 6°F cooler.

Check it out.👇 https://t.co/7BIrF50gpZ
— Steve Milloy (@JunkScience) July 23, 2024
Climate alarmists are missing one crucial piece of the climate puzzle: "Tonga Volcano Contributed To Global Warming."

"How can anyone claim to be a "Guardian" of the environment and not know about the world's recent unprecedented event which is causing today's global warming spike?" meteorologist John Shewchuk wrote on X.

How can anyone claim to be a "Guardian" of the environment and not know about the world's recent unprecedented event which is causing today's global warming spike? Tonga. https://t.co/4OzDbI7IlR pic.twitter.com/VPwmO4V8SW
— John Shewchuk (@_ClimateCraze) July 24, 2024
Sigh.

Still grifting, eh?

Tell me, Senator, how can Copernicus ECMWF determine the global mean surface temperature (GMST) down to a hundredth of a degree Celsius using reanalysis that largely consists of model data with scattered observations?

Also, most normal people don’t consider… https://t.co/6ZyyQmH2Yy
— Chris Martz (@ChrisMartzWX) July 25, 2024
More from X user the Climate Realists:

The Historic Underwater Volcano Eruption at Hunga Tonga during January 2022, added an additional 5%-10% water Vapour into the Earths Stratosphere, and for the past 18 moths our Planet has seen temperatures well above as to what we expect them to be.
However the way it's being presented by various institutions and governments is that it's human caused, and that if we don't pay more taxes we are all going to fry.

My own observations is that regrettably there will be higher than expected rainfall because of the extra Water Vapour, and in the course of time temperatures will fall due to long periods of La Niña over the next 6-7 years.
To put the burden on the taxpayers to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere, when there is a more logical and scientific explanation as to why there is a recent increase in world temperatures is on a par to the story of the Emperor with no clothes. Whereby the theory of Man Made CO2 causing additional warming is completely naked as far as scientific analysis is concerned.
The Historic Underwater Volcano Eruption at Hunga Tonga during January 2022, added an additional 5%-10% water Vapour into the Earths Stratosphere, and for the past 18 moths our Planet has seen temperatures well above as to what we expect them to be.

However the way it’s being… https://t.co/ND8zUl9YGS
— Climate Realists🌞 (@ClimateRealists) July 23, 2024
The trick climate grifters use is to show short-term data.



This guy...



However, when you look at the data over a span of 10,000 years...



... the propaganda on the "hottest day ever" and Greta's "we're all going to burn" narratives completely evaporates.
 
When I started this thread I did so as a denier.

On the one-hand I didn't want to be the wrong-thinking idiot whose actions doomed the world. But on the other hand I thought it would be pretty easy to bust the misrepresented facts. Turns out I was wrong. The more I dug into it, the more I found reasonable sounding arguments were false. That dishonest actors had sown a minefield of misinformation making it easy to disbelieve. Since starting the thread, I've yet to see any arguments or facts that disproved the theory of global warming in any way.

For example, let's take this reasonable sounding argument:
Electrification increases overall Energy consumption, due to line losses and that energy still comes from fossil fuels there is an overall net loss.

You've probably seen this in various forms, usually tied to how EVs aren't really efficient and heating buildings and the innuendo is that because we're using more it's bad to switch.

If it's true, why does Master Plan 3 predict overall energy usage would go down by 30%? Let's take a look at a few of the elephants:

Refining
Argonne National labs estimates U.S. refineries are 88% efficient, so about 12% of energy is consumed just making the fuel. So, if we don't burn fuels we need 12% less energy. See Master plan 3 for more details, but I'll cover the big two.

First let's talk about line losses on the grid. Yes, they exist. But, fuels have to be pumped or trucked too. A medium tanker truck can carry up to 4000 gallons and gets about 6 mpg. So, overall it's a pretty small amount...probably on par with electric transmission losses.

Heating
Turning fuel into heat for winter can achieve efficiencies as high as 98.5%, but in most buildings the the values range from 56 to 70% (ref). But let's take the upper end of that and compare it to a heat pump. At 70% efficiency it takes 1.4 energy to get 1 BTU of heat.

COP for a heat pumps start around 2 and have a theoretical limit of 6.95. COP is the ratio of heat to energy, so a COP of 4 means 0.25 energy per BTU.

Obviously if the energy is from renewables there's no issue as no GHGs are produced. But does it produce less GHGs if the energy comes from fossil fuels? Let's see:

1000 units of fuel x .7 efficiency = 700 units of heat​
1000 units of fuel x .25 efficient x COP 4 = 1000 units of heat ✔️ Yes, it is less CO2 even if the electricity is from fossil fuels. A COP > 2.8 is better than the most efficient commercial heating system.

EVs
The efficiency of a combustion engine is limited by the Carnot cycle, and ranges from a low of 12% for trucks and averages 20 to 30% for light passenger vehicles with regenerative braking. While a BEVs electric motor is about 98%, there are losses in charging batteries and transmission bringing the overall efficient down to 77 to 88%.

One gallon of gasoline makes 8.9 kg of CO2 (ref). 1 kWh of electricity produces about 0.39 kg of CO2 (ref). Let's take a car that gets 25 mpg (national average) and an EV that consumes .346 kWh/mile (national average) and see how much CO2 they produce:

ICE: 25 miles / 25 mpg * 8.9 kg CO2/gallon = 8.9 kg CO2
EV: 25 miles * .346 kWh/mile * 0.39 kg/kWh = 3.4 kg CO2 ✔️ Yes, it is more less GHGs even if from fossil fuels

As a sidenote, renewables also aren't super-efficient (e.g., the best solar efficiency is 24.9% and the single-junction cells are also limited by physics to a maximum of about 33%). The difference is that what they don't convert would have been there anyway.

These types of calculations and thinking is why I'm no longer a denier. If you don't think I've busted these myths or my references weren't accurate please let me know where I went wrong. Otherwise, perhaps it's time to challenge your preconceptions and dig into it yourself. Good luck!
 
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It's the Sun! (hint: another myth)
As the NASA graph to the right illustrates, solar output has decreased
ever so slightly over the last 60 years while global warming has increased.

This is just another myth that is thrown out as a plausible explanation as the
sun does indeed provide the energy that warms the earth.

Typically when the chart is shown in a denier graph, they cherry pick the
data by cutting the graph off at 1960.

On the upside, don't worry about the solar output on it's downward trend,
that graph ends in 2020 and since then solar activity has picked back up.

In fact, combined with man-made GHGs and El Niño, it probably helps to
explain the last year's record heat.
temperature_vs_solar_activity_2021.png

What people in the know say about Climate Change:
  • Ken Cohen, Exxon CEO: ... Climate change is real and appropriate steps should be taken..." ref
  • Mike Wirth, Chevron CEO" “Climate change is real. There’s no doubt about it,” ref
  • Gretchen Watkins, Shell CEO: "...urgent need for action on climate change" ref
  • Darren Woods, Exxon CEO 2023: Climate change is real, Human activity plays a major role, and, it is one of the major problems facing the world today... to address the very real threat of climate change....To get serious about net zero, the world needs to get real. ref
Other links:
 
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Svetz is making up arguments in his own head that don't exist.

An internal combustion engine car consumes about 60% more fuel than an electric car.

In other words if you burned the gas in a Powerplant and then used it to charge an electric car, it would take about 40% of that fuel to run the car.

The trouble Svetz is that passenger cars only contribute about 8% to America's C02 emissions.

So if every car was electric, our C02 output would only drop by like 3%.

You understand that right?
 
Meanwhile, lucky we have natural gas. If we were relying on renewables, we would be back in the dark ages without functional AC

US Hits Record High Electricity Generation From Natural Gas​


  • Natural gas power generation hit a record high in the US on July 9th due to extreme heat.
  • Despite record demand, natural gas prices remain relatively low due to high storage levels.
  • The surge in gas demand highlights the fuel's critical role in meeting peak electricity needs.
On July 9, 2024, U.S. power plant operators in the Lower 48 states generated 6.9 million MWh of electricity from natural gas, marking a record high since the collection of hourly data began on January 1, 2019. This surge in natural gas-fired generation was driven by exceptionally high temperatures across the country and a significant decrease in wind generation.




The National Weather Service reported that temperatures on July 9 were well above average nationwide, with particularly high temperatures on the West Coast and East Coast. Concurrently, wind generation plummeted to 0.3 million MWh, substantially lower than the 1.3 million MWh daily average recorded in June 2024.

This data further affirms the essential nature of natural gas as it steps in to fill the electricity generation gap left by renewable energy during periods of high demand.

Wholesale natural gas spot prices fell to record lows in the first half of 2024, pricing data shows, with the monthly wholesale spot natural gas price at the U.S. benchmark Henry Hub falling by 20% to $2.56 per MMBtu between January and June.

So, while July demand hit record highs, dry natural gas production reached new highs in November and December, averaging 106 Bcf/d, leading to an inventory surplus that sent more natural gas into U.S. storage than usual. Production began coming back down (101.6 Bcf/d in April), with May and June injections into storage dipping to averages well below usual. July natural gas in storage, however, was still 17% more than the five-year average for that time of year, EIA data shows, weighing on pricing.

Henry Hub spot nat gas pricing in June averaged $2.53, a strong rebound from March’s $1.49. Prices slumped again in July despite the strong demand and are now sitting just above $2.10.
 

FoMoCo lost $47,585 for each EV sold in Q2, GE Vernova calls offshore turbine blade failure a “manufacturing deviation”​


The losses keep coming. As I reported here in February, Ford Motor Co. lost $4.7 billion on its EV business in 2023, or about $64,731 for each EV it sold. Today, the company reported that over the first two quarters, it has lost nearly $2.5 billion on its Model e segment, meaning Ford’s EV losses are on track to total $5 billion in 2024. While the company’s per-vehicle losses declined somewhat during the second quarter, they are still stunning. Let’s take a quick drive through the results.

On July 3, the company published its second-quarter sales numbers. Its EV sales totaled 23,957 units, up 61% from the same period in 2023.

But the money numbers were published today, and they are sobering. Yes, the company sold 23,957 EVs during the quarter, but it lost $1.14 billion while doing so. Thus, Ford lost $47,585 for each EV it sold. In a press release, the company said it incurred the loss “amid ongoing industrywide pricing pressure on first-generation electric vehicles and lower wholesales. Those factors more than offset about $400 million in year-over-year cost reductions in the segment.”

In plain English, the company is saying that its cost-cutting efforts aren’t enough to make up for the price cuts it is being forced to make to attract buyers. To put that $47,585 per-EV loss in perspective, a Ford dealer in Austin currently has more than 20 Mustang Mach-E vehicles in stock selling for less than $47,000.

A bit more background on the company’s sales helps illustrate the scale of Ford’s faltering EV business. During the second quarter, Ford sold 199,463 F-Series trucks. Further, it sold more than half a million internal combustion engine vehicles (ICEVs). Thus, as seen above, the Dearborn-based auto giant sold 21 times more ICEVs than EVs.

The ongoing disaster in EVs has (finally) awakened Ford’s leaders from their money-losing stupor. Last Thursday, the company announced it would spend $3 billion to expand production capacity for its super-profitable F-Series line. In a July 18 press release, it said to meet “customer demand for one of its most popular and profitable vehicles,” it will add “initial capacity for 100,000 F-Series Super Duty trucks, including future multi-energy technology, at Oakville Assembly Complex in Ontario, Canada.” The press release also contains some telling words from the company’s COO, Kumar Galhotra:

This investment will benefit Ford, our employees in Canada and the U.S., and especially our customers who want and need Super Duty for their lives and livelihoods… It is fully consistent with our Ford+ plan for profitable growth, as we take steps to maximize our global manufacturing footprint, and our investments will have a fast payback. (Emphasis added.)
In other words, Ford has decided profitability matters. Rather than continue pouring money into its money-burning EV business, it will expand the production of the vehicles that keep the lights on, which means producing more F-150s and other vehicles that burn dino juice.

One final note that gives more proof that the EV craze is running out of steam: On Tuesday, General Motors CEO Mary Barra told Wall Street analysts that her company is deferring investments in EVs to ensure, as the Wall Street Journal put it, “the company doesn’t get ahead of demand.”


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Opinion: I've posted several times about synthetic meat, but never really investigated the dairy industry. As that prediction is only a couple of years away it'll be interesting to see what, if anything, happens to the industry.
 
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Climate Change™ ‘Butter’, By Bill Gates​

Domestic terrorists, we know, like to cling bitterly to conspiracy theories — like that butter comes from cows.

Bill Gates has corrective ideas, which is why the saintly philanthropist is rolling out his very own patented “dairy-free alternative taste” “butter” for the masses — at a hefty premium, of course; after all, starving billionaire philanthropists have to eat.

Related: Techno-Cows Bioengineered to Squirt Insulin From Teets


Via The Guardian (emphasis added):

“Butter made from air instead of cows? A California-based startup claims to have worked out a complex process that eliminates the need for the animals while making its dairy-free alternative taste just as good.
Savor, backed by the Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates, has been experimenting with creating dairy-free alternatives to ice-cream, cheese, and milk by utilising a thermochemical process that allows it to build fat molecules, creating chains of carbon dioxide, hydrogen and oxygen. The company has now announced a new animal-free butter alternative.
Reducing meat and dairy consumption is one of the key ways that humanity can reduce its environmental impact, as livestock production is a significant source of greenhouse gases, and Savor says its products will have a significantly lower carbon footprint than animal-based ones. The “butter” could potentially come in at less than 0.8g CO2 equivalent per calorie. The standard climate footprint of real unsalted butter with 80% fat is approximately 2.4g CO2 equivalent per calorie.”
Non-scientist college dropout who made his fortune ripping off the works of more talented software entrepreneurs and breaking numerous federal laws with impunity, Bill Gates, wants to assure the peasants that his frankenbutter is “chemically” real butter:

The question now is whether buyers will take to such synthetic fats. Getting people to give up their favourite dairy and meat items for more ‘experimental’ foods may pose a challenge.
Advocating for the initiative in an online blogpost, Gates wrote: “The idea of switching to lab-made fats and oils may seem strange at first. But their potential to significantly reduce our carbon footprint is immense. By harnessing proven technologies and processes, we get one step closer to achieving our climate goals.
‘The process doesn’t release any greenhouse gases, and it uses no farmland and less than a thousandth of the water that traditional agriculture does. And most important, it tastes really good – like the real thing, because chemically it is.’”
V For Vendetta, once again, was ahead of its time.

 

Green Energy Schemes Are the Poor Subsidizing the Rich​

New research published by the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that the vast bulk of the $47 billion in tax credits for green energy technologies, like electric vehicles, roof-top solar panels, high efficiency appliances, and energy efficient window installations, between 2006 and 2021, have been claimed by households in the highest income brackets. In other words, the subsidies amounted to welfare for the well to do.

As The Daily Caller describes the study’s results, “households in the top 20 percent of earnings nationally received about 60 percent of clean energy tax credits, while the bottom 60 percent of households received just 10 percent.”

The paper is authored by Severin Borenstein, Ph.D., the E.T. Grether Professor of Business Administration and Public Policy at the Haas School of Business and a research associate of the Energy Institute in the Haas School at the University of California–Berkeley, and Lucas W. Davis, Ph.D. a distinguished professor and chair of the Haas Economic Analysis and Policy Group at UC–Berkeley.

With regard to EV tax credits, Borenstein and Davis found the top 20 percent of earners claimed 80 percent of the tax credits, with those in the top 5 percent of incomes garnering about 50 percent of the credits by themselves. Seriously, billionaires and multimillionaires need tax credits to purchase electric vehicles?

Indeed, the study found limited “correlation between greater green tax credits and the adoption of technology such as heat pumps, solar panels, and EVs.”

“The cost effectiveness of tax credits hinges on their ability to increase adoption of clean energy technologies,” the study noted. “Overall, we find little correlation between tax credits and technology adoption.”

This means, in short, the rich claimed tax credits they didn’t need, since they would likely have bought the green energy tech without them. Increasing various green energy tax credits did not increase or broaden adoption. The poor who couldn’t afford (or didn’t really desire the technology) before the credits, still couldn’t afford them (or didn’t want them) after support was increased. For heat pumps, for example, the authors concluded:

[A] credit was introduced in 2006, yet adoption decreased in that year. The credit was not available in 2008 and 2018, but there is no discernible decline in heat pump shipments during those years. Moreover, during 2009 and 2010 the credit increased from 10% to 30%, yet there is no pronounced increase in heat pump shipments those years.
 

Green Energy Schemes Are the Poor Subsidizing the Rich​

New research published by the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that the vast bulk of the $47 billion in tax credits for green energy technologies, like electric vehicles, roof-top solar panels, high efficiency appliances, and energy efficient window installations, between 2006 and 2021, have been claimed by households in the highest income brackets. In other words, the subsidies amounted to welfare for the well to do.

As The Daily Caller describes the study’s results, “households in the top 20 percent of earnings nationally received about 60 percent of clean energy tax credits, while the bottom 60 percent of households received just 10 percent.”

The paper is authored by Severin Borenstein, Ph.D., the E.T. Grether Professor of Business Administration and Public Policy at the Haas School of Business and a research associate of the Energy Institute in the Haas School at the University of California–Berkeley, and Lucas W. Davis, Ph.D. a distinguished professor and chair of the Haas Economic Analysis and Policy Group at UC–Berkeley.

With regard to EV tax credits, Borenstein and Davis found the top 20 percent of earners claimed 80 percent of the tax credits, with those in the top 5 percent of incomes garnering about 50 percent of the credits by themselves. Seriously, billionaires and multimillionaires need tax credits to purchase electric vehicles?

Indeed, the study found limited “correlation between greater green tax credits and the adoption of technology such as heat pumps, solar panels, and EVs.”

“The cost effectiveness of tax credits hinges on their ability to increase adoption of clean energy technologies,” the study noted. “Overall, we find little correlation between tax credits and technology adoption.”

This means, in short, the rich claimed tax credits they didn’t need, since they would likely have bought the green energy tech without them. Increasing various green energy tax credits did not increase or broaden adoption. The poor who couldn’t afford (or didn’t really desire the technology) before the credits, still couldn’t afford them (or didn’t want them) after support was increased. For heat pumps, for example, the authors concluded:

[A] credit was introduced in 2006, yet adoption decreased in that year. The credit was not available in 2008 and 2018, but there is no discernible decline in heat pump shipments during those years. Moreover, during 2009 and 2010 the credit increased from 10% to 30%, yet there is no pronounced increase in heat pump shipments those years.

Oh, you mean the lower class isn't running out and buying solar panels with their welfare checks? 🤣

And I'm sitting here sporting Victron for the offgrid place.

I guess that makes me an elite.

Actually it's the mix and match one foot out of the ghetto pack.

Santan used panels
Epever CC
Homemade battery
Victron 24/3000 mutiplus.
 
Several errors. HF trucks are more efficient than cars, not less. I believe it's around 20% for cars and 25% for trucks, mainly due to cars running at a lower load.

The government is doing a good job hiding how they're requiring BEVs. They're doing it by jacking the CAFE standards so high that very few ICE vehicles can meet them. But they are allowing the automakers average their BEVs in, after completely ridiculous offsets. First they ignore Carnot so that alone multiplies the "fuel efficiency" by 2.5 Then they decided to multiply that by another 6.67 So the BEV gets averaged in as getting 300+ mpg.

Ford and GM seem to be catching on. Unfortunately Chrysler is being run by idiots in France (and I realize that's being redundant).
 
I've been thinking about the difference between technical reality and political actuality. For example, while Tony Seba's prediction of a +300 mile range EV for ~ $11,000 came true earlier than expected (ref), you can't get one in the U.S. for that price for obvious reasons. Similarly, DeSantis and other governors have already signed laws preventing sale of American products that would hurt existing businesses (ref) in the state (which seems against the constitution so I expect court battles).

These actions I suspect can only hold the tide back for so long and probably only work when simultaneously paired with an effort to adapt to the realities of a new market place. The numerous game-changing technologies emerging simultaneously, real world issues (e.g., war, famine, climate change), and politics struggling to prevent change rather than adapt to it are not a favorable combination for a well ordered society.

Least Prepared U.S. States
Opinion: Huh... expected to see Florida.


...First they ignore Carnot so that alone multiplies the "fuel efficiency" by 2.5 ...
I'm not sure what you mean? Carnot refers to the "maximum" possible efficiency based on thermodynamics, so it is safe to ignore other than a reality check. The actual efficiency is always lower due to mechanical losses (e.g., friction, turbulence). The reason Carnot is used so often when talking about ICE is that THOT is limited because using air for the combustion brings in Nitrogen which reacts unfavorably at higher temperatures creating side-reactions (e.g., NOx) and that means you just can't improve the maximum possible engine efficiency regardless of engine tweaks (you'd have to use an oxidant other than air or somehow eliminate the NOx and increase the combustion temperature, technically possible but expensive). It's limiting THOT that limits the maximum efficiency.

For example, motorcycles get much higher MPG than cars not because their engines are more efficient, but because they are much lighter.

The Aptera only consumes 0.1 kWh/mile (ref) rather the national average of .346 kWh/mile quoted in #6,758. If you were to replace electrical components with ICE it wouldn't surprise me it if got ~100 mpg. But it would be because of the aerodynamics and weight rather than engine improvements.
 
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